Re: issues with stretch, issue 2 from many

2018-12-11 Thread Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă
On 27-11-2018, at 13h 52'25", Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote about "issues with stretch, issue 2 from many" > Dear all, [...] > Question 2.1: Why .xsession is not read and .xsessionrc is read? > Question 2.2: Who starts the second call of fvwm? If I comment out the >

Re: issues with stretch, issue 2 from many

2018-12-06 Thread David Wright
On Mon 03 Dec 2018 at 08:52:06 (+1300), Richard Hector wrote: > On 1/12/18 5:49 AM, Brian wrote: > ... > >> fvwm2 > >> ==cut here > > My .xsession has "exec fvwm" as the last line but I do not think that > > makes your choice incorrect. > > The diffe

Re: issues with stretch, issue 2 from many

2018-12-02 Thread Richard Hector
On 1/12/18 5:49 AM, Brian wrote: ... >> fvwm2 >> ==cut here > My .xsession has "exec fvwm" as the last line but I do not think that > makes your choice incorrect. The difference is presumably that the former calls fvwm2 and then returns to the shell

Re: issues with stretch, issue 2 from many

2018-12-01 Thread David Wright
On Fri 30 Nov 2018 at 16:20:15 (+0100), Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > On 27-11-2018, at 13h 52'25", Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote about "issues with > stretch, issue 2 from many" > > I have issues with stretch, to many to count... > > This one wi

Re: issues with stretch, issue 2 from many

2018-11-30 Thread Brian
On Fri 30 Nov 2018 at 16:20:15 +0100, Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > On 27-11-2018, at 13h 52'25", Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote about "issues with > stretch, issue 2 from many" > > Dear all, > > > > I have issues with stretch, to many to count... &

Re: issues with stretch, issue 2 from many

2018-11-30 Thread Brian
On Fri 30 Nov 2018 at 10:58:52 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > Now, please answer the following questions: > > 1) What version of Debian are you running? > > 2) How do you log in to your computer? If it's by a display manager >(graphical login), which one is it? > > 3) How do you star

Re: issues with stretch, issue 2 from many

2018-11-30 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 0:59 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Now, please answer the following questions: > > 1) What version of Debian are you running? > > 2) How do you log in to your computer? If it's by a display manager >(graphical login), which one is it? > > 3) How do you start the X window sy

Re: issues with stretch, issue 2 from many

2018-11-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 04:43:04PM +0100, Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > Greg, I care less about what should and what should not. .xsession is > ignored in stretch (but not before), Not if you type startx. I login on the Linux text console in stretch, and type startx, and my .xsession is used. J

Re: issues with stretch, issue 2 from many

2018-11-30 Thread Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă
On 30-11-2018, at 10h 25'17", Greg Wooledge wrote about "Re: issues with stretch, issue 2 from many" > On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 04:20:15PM +0100, Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > > @ Brian, here is my formal .xsession (currently .xsessionrc) file: > > I assume yo

Re: issues with stretch, issue 2 from many

2018-11-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 04:20:15PM +0100, Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > @ Brian, here is my formal .xsession (currently .xsessionrc) file: I assume you meant "former". > ==cut here > #!/bin/bash > xsetbg background1.png > rclock -fg white -bg black

Re: issues with stretch, issue 2 from many

2018-11-30 Thread Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă
On 27-11-2018, at 13h 52'25", Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote about "issues with stretch, issue 2 from many" > Dear all, > > I have issues with stretch, to many to count... > This one will focus on the window manager startup. > [...] > Question 2.1: Why .xsessi

Re: issues with stretch, issue 2 from many

2018-11-29 Thread Brian
On Thu 29 Nov 2018 at 15:17:03 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 08:10:43PM +, Brian wrote: > > How does ~/.xsessionrc assume such importance over ~/.xsession in the > > grand scheme of X things? > > Because it's the only file that's guaranteed to be read no matter what >

Re: issues with stretch, issue 2 from many

2018-11-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 08:10:43PM +, Brian wrote: > How does ~/.xsessionrc assume such importance over ~/.xsession in the > grand scheme of X things? Because it's the only file that's guaranteed to be read no matter what kind of crazy nonstandard X session the user invokes (GNOME, I'm looking

Re: issues with stretch, issue 2 from many

2018-11-29 Thread Brian
On Wed 28 Nov 2018 at 20:18:25 +, Brian wrote: > On Tue 27 Nov 2018 at 12:04:37 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > [...] > > > My understanding is .xsessionrc was created in order to give users a > > modicum of control over their own lives if they happen to use GNOME. > > It doesn't say that i

Re: issues with stretch, issue 2 from many

2018-11-28 Thread Brian
On Tue 27 Nov 2018 at 12:04:37 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > My understanding is .xsessionrc was created in order to give users a > modicum of control over their own lives if they happen to use GNOME. It doesn't say that in #411639. [...] -- Brian.

Re: issues with stretch, issue 2 from many

2018-11-27 Thread Brian
On Tue 27 Nov 2018 at 13:52:25 +0100, Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > Dear all, > > I have issues with stretch, to many to count... > This one will focus on the window manager startup. > > I did a fresh install of Debian stretch using net install disk. > I use Debian (and Linux) from 1997. In all

Re: issues with stretch, issue 2 from many

2018-11-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 10:32:24AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > Question 2.1: Why .xsession is not read and .xsessionrc is read? > > Don't know. But you haven't posted how you start X. He said he used "xdm and kdm", if I recall correctly. Sounds like he is switching things around randomly and

Re: issues with stretch, issue 2 from many

2018-11-27 Thread David Wright
On Tue 27 Nov 2018 at 13:52:25 (+0100), Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > I have issues with stretch, to many to count... > This one will focus on the window manager startup. > > I did a fresh install of Debian stretch using net install disk. > I use Debian (and Linux) from 1997. In all this time I u

issues with stretch, issue 2 from many

2018-11-27 Thread Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă
Dear all, I have issues with stretch, to many to count... This one will focus on the window manager startup. I did a fresh install of Debian stretch using net install disk. I use Debian (and Linux) from 1997. In all this time I used fvwm2 as windows manager. I also used Unix in 1995-1996 with fvw