Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 3:34 PM BST, Titus Newswanger wrote: In that case, if original poster's mini-pc won't boot without HDMI monitor, maybe like others suggested, a dummy connector. A search on places like Amazon for "HDMI dummy plug" finds a lot of options. To be honest, I had not realized su

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Fred
On 6/2/25 06:47, Joe wrote: On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 13:57:23 +0100 "Jonathan Dowland" wrote: On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 12:18 PM BST, Joe wrote: Certainly the Raspberry Pi OS (closely based on Debian, formerly called Raspbian) allows headless use. The issue (for those machines that have it) is not t

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Titus Newswanger
On 6/2/25 09:05, Fred wrote: The original poster said he "did not see at all" and didn't want to waste the monitor power consumption. Sorry, I overlooked that. I was so thinking "headless server"... In that case, if original poster's mini-pc won't boot without HDMI monitor, maybe like other

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread jeremy ardley
On 2/6/25 21:47, Joe wrote: I mention the OS in case an alternative (there are) did demand a monitor. Both ends of HDMI certainly know whether the other end is connected, many sources will not power up unless they see a live sink, and sinks will usually not fully power the interface unless they

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Joe
On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 13:57:23 +0100 "Jonathan Dowland" wrote: > On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 12:18 PM BST, Joe wrote: > > Certainly the Raspberry Pi OS (closely based on Debian, formerly > > called Raspbian) allows headless use. > > The issue (for those machines that have it) is not the OS: it's the

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Dan Ritter
Stanislav Vlasov wrote: > > Or unfortunately, firmware will recognize this fact automatically and > > will not allow me to load GRUB and boot The kernel:? > > It's your bios settings, not Debian issue. > > > I do not see at all so I want to use 20 Watts energy comsumption with no > > need to use

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Titus Newswanger
On 6/2/25 00:29, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote: I would like to know, if is it possible to use Debian Mate Mate? Am I correct, that is a desktop environment? I don't know anything about mate. With some d.e., If you configure networking etc in a gui while logged into a d.e. then remove monitor an

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 12:18 PM BST, Joe wrote: Certainly the Raspberry Pi OS (closely based on Debian, formerly called Raspbian) allows headless use. The issue (for those machines that have it) is not the OS: it's the firmware (artist formerly known as BIOS). If that does not support headles

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Stanislav Vlasov
пн, 2 июн. 2025 г. в 13:35, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel : > > Dear users and developers, > I would like to know, if is it possible to use Debian Mate on mini > PC with 8 GB of RAM if I will not use external monitor connected to > provided HDMI output connector. Always or after install? Default install

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread jeremy ardley
On 2/6/25 20:46, Charles Curley wrote: You will need a monitor to install, and then some way of administering the machine afterwards, typically an SSH server. Many SBC do not have a monitor tor start with. It is not a problem to have them start up with a SSH server to administer, or at worst

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 07:29:53 +0200 "Mgr. Janusz Chmiel" wrote: >     I would like to know, if is it possible to use Debian Mate on > mini PC with 8 GB of RAM if I will not use external monitor connected > to provided HDMI output connector. You did not say which mini-PC you are considering, so on

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Titus Newswanger
I am booting various mini-pc without a display and it is working. I've had good success with Minisforum brand. The UXX branded one (cost less than $100 USD)(I can't find a model number on it) has very buggy Bios firmware. Not even an option to auto-start upon powerup, I always have to start it

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Joe
On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 10:46:05 +0100 "Jonathan Dowland" wrote: > On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 6:29 AM BST, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote: > > Dear users and developers, > >     I would like to know, if is it possible to use Debian Mate on > > mini PC with 8 GB of RAM if I will not use external monitor > > con

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 6:29 AM BST, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote: Dear users and developers,     I would like to know, if is it possible to use Debian Mate on mini PC with 8 GB of RAM if I will not use external monitor connected to provided HDMI output connector. It depends on the specific machin

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-01 Thread jeremy ardley
On 2/6/25 13:29, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote: It is possible on Raspbery but I Am afraid, that mini PCS firmwares will not allow Me to boot The system at all. What do you think? You need to be specific what mini PC you are talking about and its processor type. Most ARM based single board co

is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-01 Thread Mgr. Janusz Chmiel
Dear users and developers,     I would like to know, if is it possible to use Debian Mate on mini PC with 8 GB of RAM if I will not use external monitor connected to provided HDMI output connector. Does build in firmware written in Assembly allow Me to simply boot The Debian kernel if The displ