Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-28 Thread David Wright
On Wed 20 Jan 2021 at 20:31:53 (-0800), Dan Hitt wrote: > […] > The second question is whether there's a way, from grub (grub2, actually), > of dropping down to the bios. I imagine this is quite impossible, but if > i'm wrong, please let me know. The reason i would like to do this is that > it is

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread David Wright
On Thu 21 Jan 2021 at 11:08:56 (-0800), Dan Hitt wrote: > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:02 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > > Dan Hitt wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 3:33 AM Brian wrote: > > > > > > > >menuentry 'Debian 10' { > > > >linux /boot/vmlinuz > > > >initrd /boot/initrd.gz > > > >

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Brian
On Thu 21 Jan 2021 at 23:22:32 +, Brian wrote: > menuentry 'Debian 10' { > linux (hdX,msdosY)/boot/vmlinuz > initrd (hdX,msdosY)/boot/initrd.gz > } > > or use a "search" line. The latter might br easiest for you. Put linux, initrd.gz and the ISO file in /boot on the Linux Min

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread David Christensen
On 2021-01-20 20:31, Dan Hitt wrote: I have a machine that currently has linux mint 16.04 on it. I would like to install debian 10 on it, but the installer really wants access to a cd drive, and one just isn't available. However, the linux mint 16.04 system does have grub2 on it. So it is po

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Brian
On Thu 21 Jan 2021 at 13:06:25 -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 12:29 PM Brian wrote: > > > On Thu 21 Jan 2021 at 09:34:56 -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 3:33 AM Brian wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed 20 Jan 2021 at 20:31:53 -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: > > > > > >

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Brian
On Thu 21 Jan 2021 at 16:20:10 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > Brian composed on 2021-01-21 11:33 (UTC): > > > David Wright's advice to use the hd-media kernel and initrd is your way > > forward. The simplest GRUB stanza possible is > > >menuentry 'Debian 10' { > >linux /boot/vmlinuz > >

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Felix Miata
Dan Hitt composed on 2021-01-21 13:06 (UTC-0800): > ...i only have access to > the bios with great difficulty. If i could get into the bios, i could > change the boot order, and possibly boot from usb. However, it is very > difficult to interrupt the boot process successfully (by pressing F2),

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Dan Hitt
On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 12:58 PM Erwan David wrote: > Le 21/01/2021 à 21:52, Erwan David a écrit : > > Le 21/01/2021 à 21:46, Brian a écrit : > >> On Thu 21 Jan 2021 at 11:08:56 -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: > >> > >> [...] > >> > >>> Now, Brian said that "the installer's initrd does not contain a loop

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Felix Miata
Brian composed on 2021-01-21 11:33 (UTC): > David Wright's advice to use the hd-media kernel and initrd is your way > forward. The simplest GRUB stanza possible is >menuentry 'Debian 10' { >linux /boot/vmlinuz >initrd /boot/initrd.gz >} I'm having trouble thinking of how this cou

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Dan Ritter
Dan Hitt wrote: > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 12:29 PM Brian wrote: > > > I have a machine that currently has linux mint 16.04 on it > > > > I assummed that that this was the only partition and that vmlinuz and > > initrd.gz would go in /boot. How many partitions do you have? > > > > Thanks Brian

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Dan Hitt
On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 12:29 PM Brian wrote: > On Thu 21 Jan 2021 at 09:34:56 -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 3:33 AM Brian wrote: > > > > > On Wed 20 Jan 2021 at 20:31:53 -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > menuentry "debian-10-iso" { > > > >

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Erwan David
Le 21/01/2021 à 21:52, Erwan David a écrit : > Le 21/01/2021 à 21:46, Brian a écrit : >> On Thu 21 Jan 2021 at 11:08:56 -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: >> >> [...] >> >>> Now, Brian said that "the installer's initrd does not contain a loop >>> module", so that would indicate that if i want to use >>> debian

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Erwan David
Le 21/01/2021 à 21:46, Brian a écrit : > On Thu 21 Jan 2021 at 11:08:56 -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: > > [...] > >> Now, Brian said that "the installer's initrd does not contain a loop >> module", so that would indicate that if i want to use >> debian-10.7.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso, i'll need to get it on th

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Brian
On Thu 21 Jan 2021 at 11:08:56 -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: [...] > Now, Brian said that "the installer's initrd does not contain a loop > module", so that would indicate that if i want to use > debian-10.7.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso, i'll need to get it on the disk > (presumably by just unpacking it somewh

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Brian
On Thu 21 Jan 2021 at 09:34:56 -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 3:33 AM Brian wrote: > > > On Wed 20 Jan 2021 at 20:31:53 -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > menuentry "debian-10-iso" { > > > set isofile="/USER/iso/debian-10.7.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso" > > >

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 20 ian 21, 20:31:53, Dan Hitt wrote: > I have a machine that currently has linux mint 16.04 on it. > > I would like to install debian 10 on it, but the installer really wants > access to a cd drive, and one just isn't available. Any kind of medium that can be used by your motherboard to bo

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Dan Ritter
Dan Hitt wrote: > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:02 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > > > also have to be a search line like David has (search --no-floppy ..) > > to > > > identify just where '/boot' is (???). > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_GRUB#Startup_on_systems_using_BIOS_firmware > > > >

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Dan Hitt
On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:02 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > Dan Hitt wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 3:33 AM Brian wrote: > > > > > > > >menuentry 'Debian 10' { > > >linux /boot/vmlinuz > > >initrd /boot/initrd.gz > > >} > > > > > > -- > > > Brian. > > > > > > > > Brian, thanks so mu

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 20 ian 21, 20:31:53, Dan Hitt wrote: > > Or perhaps there's some other way to approach the problem? For example, > i've already created a partition to hold the debian system i want to put on > the machine. Is there some way of hand-populating it? Yes, either debootstrap (used also by the

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Dan Ritter
Dan Hitt wrote: > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 3:33 AM Brian wrote: > > > > >menuentry 'Debian 10' { > >linux /boot/vmlinuz > >initrd /boot/initrd.gz > >} > > > > -- > > Brian. > > > > > Brian, thanks so much for your advice. Thank you also Felix, David, and > Bastien --- i need to s

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Dan Hitt
On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 3:33 AM Brian wrote: > On Wed 20 Jan 2021 at 20:31:53 -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: > > [...] > > > menuentry "debian-10-iso" { > > set isofile="/USER/iso/debian-10.7.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso" > > loopback loop (hd0,gptNN)$isofile > > linux (loop)/install

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Brian
On Wed 20 Jan 2021 at 20:31:53 -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: [...] > menuentry "debian-10-iso" { > set isofile="/USER/iso/debian-10.7.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso" > loopback loop (hd0,gptNN)$isofile > linux (loop)/install.amd/vmlinuz boot=install.amd > iso-scan/filename=$isofile no

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-20 Thread David Wright
On Wed 20 Jan 2021 at 20:31:53 (-0800), Dan Hitt wrote: > I have a machine that currently has linux mint 16.04 on it. > > I would like to install debian 10 on it, but the installer really wants > access to a cd drive, and one just isn't available. > > However, the linux mint 16.04 system does hav

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-20 Thread Felix Miata
Dan Hitt composed on 2021-01-20 20:31 (UTC-0800): > Or perhaps there's some other way to approach the problem? I can't recall ever installation of any Debian except by the NET method. The only things I download prior to beginning installation on a system with a working Grub is the NET installa

installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-20 Thread Dan Hitt
I have a machine that currently has linux mint 16.04 on it. I would like to install debian 10 on it, but the installer really wants access to a cd drive, and one just isn't available. However, the linux mint 16.04 system does have grub2 on it. So it is possible for me to boot from an iso image s