Re: ide-scsi with 2 drives

2004-12-30 Thread Alvin Oga
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004, Ron Johnson wrote: > The thing is that, unlike SCSI, only one device can be using an > IDE bus at any one time. a common misconception ... electrically ... only one ide disk can drive the signals on the ide cable at any time similarly, even scsi

Re: ide-scsi with 2 drives - tests

2004-12-30 Thread Alvin Oga
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004, Robert Epprecht wrote: > I agree that in general this is a bad idea, but some tests seemed to show > me that pluging the optical drives as slaves to the hd's as masters does > *not* slow them down with my specific hardware. simple speed test ... ( must write and read at the

Re: ide-scsi with 2 drives

2004-12-30 Thread Robert Epprecht
Andrew Schulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > > /dev/hda hd >> > > /dev/hdb dvd writer >> > > /dev/hdc hd >> > > /dev/hdd dvd rom >> > >> > I have found mixing hd's & cd'd on the same IDE controller to cause >> > issues. I have even had issues with the position of the drives on the

Re: ide-scsi with 2 drives

2004-12-30 Thread Robert Epprecht
Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 30 Dec 2004, Robert Epprecht wrote: > >> >> > /dev/hda hd >> >> > /dev/hdb dvd writer >> >> > /dev/hdc hd >> >> > /dev/hdd dvd rom > > bad idea .. esp if the drives are NOT the same ata-33, ata-66 or ata-100 > or ata-133 speeds I agree that

Re: ide-scsi with 2 drives

2004-12-30 Thread Robert Epprecht
Greg Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wednesday 29 December 2004 09:31 pm, Robert Epprecht wrote: >> >> > Up to now I had one hd and one dvd writer and everything worked >> >> > fine. Now I have added a second hd and a dvd rom drive... >> >> > The trouble starts when I want to use ide-scs

Re: ide-scsi with 2 drives

2004-12-30 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2004-12-30 at 09:41 -0500, Andrew Schulman wrote: [snip] > An optical drive (slow) running on the same IDE channel as a hard drive > (fast) will slow down data transfer to and from the hard drive, when the > optical drive is operating (by forcing a lower DMA mode?). So in the > configur

Re: ide-scsi with 2 drives

2004-12-30 Thread Andrew Schulman
> > > /dev/hda hd > > > /dev/hdb dvd writer > > > /dev/hdc hd > > > /dev/hdd dvd rom > > > > I have found mixing hd's & cd'd on the same IDE controller to cause > > issues. I have even had issues with the position of the drives on the > > ribbon cable, depending on the UDMA number of th

Re: ide-scsi with 2 drives

2004-12-29 Thread Alvin Oga
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004, Robert Epprecht wrote: > >> > /dev/hda hd > >> > /dev/hdb dvd writer > >> > /dev/hdc hd > >> > /dev/hdd dvd rom bad idea .. esp if the drives are NOT the same ata-33, ata-66 or ata-100 or ata-133 speeds == == you cannot mix devices with different ata

Re: ide-scsi with 2 drives

2004-12-29 Thread Greg Madden
On Wednesday 29 December 2004 09:31 pm, Robert Epprecht wrote: > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 12:38 -0900, Greg Madden wrote: > >> On Wednesday 29 December 2004 10:35 am, Robert Epprecht wrote: > >> > Up to now I had one hd and one dvd writer and everything work

Re: ide-scsi with 2 drives

2004-12-29 Thread Robert Epprecht
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 12:38 -0900, Greg Madden wrote: >> On Wednesday 29 December 2004 10:35 am, Robert Epprecht wrote: >> > Up to now I had one hd and one dvd writer and everything worked fine. >> > Now I have added a second hd and a dvd rom drive: >> >

Re: ide-scsi with 2 drives

2004-12-29 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 12:38 -0900, Greg Madden wrote: > On Wednesday 29 December 2004 10:35 am, Robert Epprecht wrote: > > Hello > > > > Up to now I had one hd and one dvd writer and everything worked fine. > > Now I have added a second hd and a dvd rom drive: > > > > /dev/hda hd > > /dev/hdb d

Re: ide-scsi with 2 drives

2004-12-29 Thread Greg Madden
On Wednesday 29 December 2004 10:35 am, Robert Epprecht wrote: > Hello > > Up to now I had one hd and one dvd writer and everything worked fine. > Now I have added a second hd and a dvd rom drive: > > /dev/hda hd > /dev/hdb dvd writer > /dev/hdc hd > /dev/hdd dvd rom > > A short test with a

ide-scsi with 2 drives

2004-12-29 Thread Robert Epprecht
Hello Up to now I had one hd and one dvd writer and everything worked fine. Now I have added a second hd and a dvd rom drive: /dev/hda hd /dev/hdb dvd writer /dev/hdc hd /dev/hdd dvd rom A short test with another OS (no, it's debian woody ;-) without ide-scsi seems to do fine with all of