Re: spurious CR/LF on tty (was: how to remove GUI)

2020-09-21 Thread David Wright
On Mon 21 Sep 2020 at 12:16:53 (+1000), David wrote: > On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 21:56, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > There are many ways to work around it. My preferred way is to clear > > the screen with Ctrl-L (ESC Ctrl-L for me, because I use bash in vi > > mode). That will redraw the shell promp

Re: spurious CR/LF on tty (was: how to remove GUI)

2020-09-20 Thread David
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 21:56, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 09:14:54PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Sat 12 Sep 2020 at 21:45:34 (+1000), David wrote: > > > And regarding "just hit the enter key ... and all is fine", this > > > behaviour does not just occur at a login prompt.

Re: spurious CR/LF on tty (was: how to remove GUI)

2020-09-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 09:14:54PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Sat 12 Sep 2020 at 21:45:34 (+1000), David wrote: > > And regarding "just hit the enter key ... and all is fine", this > > behaviour does not just occur at a login prompt. If you login quickly > > as root to a minimal install as I o

Re: spurious CR/LF on tty (was: how to remove GUI)

2020-09-13 Thread David Wright
On Sat 12 Sep 2020 at 21:45:34 (+1000), David wrote: > On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 05:18, Felix Miata wrote: > > Greg Wooledge composed on 2020-09-11 11:42 (UTC-0400): > > > I only mention it because once in a while, someone sees something like > > > it and freaks out, thinking the computer is locked u

Re: how to remove GUI

2020-09-12 Thread Rogério Brito
Hi there. On 11/09/2020 01.40, Michael Morgan wrote: I recently installed Debian 9.13 on my machine. I was planning to use it for scientific computation so GUI is not necessary. For some reason, I installed the desktop environment with LXDE desktop during installation. Later I decided to remove

Re: spurious CR/LF on tty (was: how to remove GUI)

2020-09-12 Thread David
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 05:18, Felix Miata wrote: > Greg Wooledge composed on 2020-09-11 11:42 (UTC-0400): > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 10:35:46 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > >> That's the first mention of this phenomenon I recall seeing since I posted > >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2018

Re: how to remove GUI

2020-09-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 11 sep 20, 10:35:46, David Wright wrote: > > I don't use a DE so I can't check. Who owns the X server nowadays > when running a DM? (With no DM running, ownership changed from root > to the user some time ago.) As far as I know it depends on the DM, e.g. with lightdm it's root, at least o

Re: spurious CR/LF on tty (was: how to remove GUI)

2020-09-11 Thread David Wright
On Fri 11 Sep 2020 at 15:18:10 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > Greg Wooledge composed on 2020-09-11 11:42 (UTC-0400): > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 10:35:46 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > >> That's the first mention of this phenomenon I recall seeing since I posted > >> https://lists.debian.org/debian

Re: spurious CR/LF on tty (was: how to remove GUI)

2020-09-11 Thread Felix Miata
Greg Wooledge composed on 2020-09-11 11:42 (UTC-0400): > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 10:35:46 -0500, David Wright wrote: >> That's the first mention of this phenomenon I recall seeing since I posted >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2018/03/msg01030.html >> (which dealt mainly with a more serio

Re: how to remove GUI

2020-09-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 10:35:46AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > That's the first mention of this phenomenon I recall seeing since I posted > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2018/03/msg01030.html > (which dealt mainly with a more serious problem). > > I never install a DE/DM and all that stuff

Re: how to remove GUI

2020-09-11 Thread David Wright
On Fri 11 Sep 2020 at 10:35:19 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 09:02:30AM -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: > > I am actually curious, what SystemD does, if it expects graphical.target, > > yet the tools (x11, desktop, etc) are no longer available? > > It boots just as you would

Re: how to remove GUI

2020-09-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 09:02:30AM -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: > I am actually curious, what SystemD does, if it expects graphical.target, > yet the tools (x11, desktop, etc) are no longer available? It boots just as you would expect. If there is no display manager installed, then none will be e

Re: how to remove GUI

2020-09-11 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Fri, Sep 11, 2020, 7:56 AM Henning Follmann wrote: > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 11:33:21PM -0500, Michael Morgan wrote: > > Dear friend, > > > > > > > > I recently installed Debian 9.13 on my machine. I was planning to use it > for > > scientific computation so GUI is not necessary. For some reas

Re: how to remove GUI

2020-09-11 Thread rhkramer
Thanks for the explanation of the autoremove intent (I had never seen that explanation before (never looked for it, didn't think I needed it (so far), but the understanding is helpful). Nothing new below this line. On Friday, September 11, 2020 07:53:26 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > In the more gen

Re: how to remove GUI

2020-09-11 Thread Henning Follmann
On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 11:33:21PM -0500, Michael Morgan wrote: > Dear friend, > > > > I recently installed Debian 9.13 on my machine. I was planning to use it for > scientific computation so GUI is not necessary. For some reason, I installed > the desktop environment with LXDE desktop during

Re: how to remove GUI

2020-09-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 11:33:21PM -0500, Michael Morgan wrote: > I recently installed Debian 9.13 on my machine. So, not the current stable release > What is the correct way to > completely remove GUI? Well, in this *particular* case, your best course of action would probably be a clean ins

Re: how to remove GUI

2020-09-11 Thread Joe
On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 23:33:21 -0500 "Michael Morgan" wrote: > Dear friend, > > > > I recently installed Debian 9.13 on my machine. I was planning to use > it for scientific computation so GUI is not necessary. For some > reason, I installed the desktop environment with LXDE desktop during > i

Re: how to remove GUI

2020-09-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 11 sep 20, 09:32:23, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > When removing them you might need to add > > -o APT::Autoremove::SuggestsImportant=no > > and even > > -o APT::Autoremove::RecommendsImportant=no Err, these won't do much on removing the package, they work only in combination

Re: how to remove GUI

2020-09-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 10 sep 20, 23:33:21, Michael Morgan wrote: > > So it seems the desktop package was removed. But why it still has GUI? As you found out, removing collections of packages is more difficult than installing them. Try running this: apt -o APT::Autoremove::SuggestsImportant=no autoremove

how to remove GUI

2020-09-10 Thread Michael Morgan
Dear friend, I recently installed Debian 9.13 on my machine. I was planning to use it for scientific computation so GUI is not necessary. For some reason, I installed the desktop environment with LXDE desktop during installation. Later I decided to remove them. These two commands were executed