Re: how to handle the not upgraded package

2011-10-24 Thread Bob Proulx
Sven Joachim wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Sven Joachim wrote: > >> Unfortunately, apt-get does not have a safe-upgrade command. > > > > Here I beg to differ. 'apt-get upgrade' is the safe-upgrade mechanism. > > Well, it's not. Or it is, but it doesn't work in most cases. Hmm... Well... Works

Re: how to handle the not upgraded package

2011-10-24 Thread François TOURDE
Le 15271ième jour après Epoch, Bob Proulx écrivait: > A safe-upgrade requires that no packages be removed and no new > packages be added. Wrong! New packages can be installed during a safe-upgrade: fermat:~# aptitude safe-upgrade Résolution des dépendances... Les NOUVEAUX paquets suivants vont ê

Re: how to handle the not upgraded package

2011-10-24 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2011-10-24 22:45 +0200, Tom H wrote: > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: >> >> As an unstable user, I beg to disagree.  With aptitude there are few >> occasions where dist-upgrade is necessary, and it often does unwanted >> things. Unfortunately, apt-get does not have a safe

Re: how to handle the not upgraded package

2011-10-24 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Sven Joachim wrote: >> >> Unfortunately, apt-get does not have a safe-upgrade command. > > Here I beg to differ.  'apt-get upgrade' is the safe-upgrade mechanism. > Packages cannot be added or removed and dependency chains cannot be > broken. (

Re: how to handle the not upgraded package

2011-10-24 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2011-10-24 22:33 +0200, Bob Proulx wrote: > Sven Joachim wrote: >> Bob Proulx wrote: >> > Stable typically only needs safe-upgrade. But sometimes for point >> > releases and for some security upgrades will need a dist-upgrade. >> > Testing/Unstable by comparison typically always uses dist-upgr

Re: how to handle the not upgraded package

2011-10-24 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: > > As an unstable user, I beg to disagree.  With aptitude there are few > occasions where dist-upgrade is necessary, and it often does unwanted > things. Unfortunately, apt-get does not have a safe-upgrade command. (slight digression) I wish t

Re: how to handle the not upgraded package

2011-10-24 Thread Bob Proulx
Sven Joachim wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Stable typically only needs safe-upgrade. But sometimes for point > > releases and for some security upgrades will need a dist-upgrade. > > Testing/Unstable by comparison typically always uses dist-upgrade. > > As an unstable user, I beg to disagree. W

Re: how to handle the not upgraded package

2011-10-24 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2011-10-24 22:05 +0200, Bob Proulx wrote: > lina wrote: >> I use aptitude safe-upgrade, > > On which release track? Stable? Testing/Unstable? > > Stable typically only needs safe-upgrade. But sometimes for point > releases and for some security upgrades will need a dist-upgrade. > Testing/Un

Re: how to handle the not upgraded package

2011-10-24 Thread Bob Proulx
lina wrote: > I use aptitude safe-upgrade, On which release track? Stable? Testing/Unstable? Stable typically only needs safe-upgrade. But sometimes for point releases and for some security upgrades will need a dist-upgrade. Testing/Unstable by comparison typically always uses dist-upgrade. >

how to handle the not upgraded package

2011-10-24 Thread lina
Hi, I use aptitude safe-upgrade, so there are some packages un-upgraded, just curious, in future what's going to happen? 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 72 not upgraded. Thanks, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "uns