Re: hot boxes and power consumption

2003-08-21 Thread Pigeon
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 11:19:31PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 04:11:02AM +0100, Pigeon wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 12:33:12PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > > > > > Also, Radio Shack sells a "current transformer" which is an add-on device > > > for their digita

Re: hot boxes and power consumption

2003-08-20 Thread Paul E Condon
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 04:11:02AM +0100, Pigeon wrote: > On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 12:33:12PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > > > Also, Radio Shack sells a "current transformer" which is an add-on device > > for their digital multimeter. With the multimeter and the current transformer > > you can

Re: hot boxes and power consumption

2003-08-20 Thread Pigeon
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 12:33:12PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > Also, Radio Shack sells a "current transformer" which is an add-on device > for their digital multimeter. With the multimeter and the current transformer > you can measure current and voltage on the AC supply input to the comput

Re: hot boxes and power consumption

2003-08-20 Thread Paul E Condon
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 11:04:41AM -0500, Bill Morgan wrote: > A late reply, but I'm just back from vacation: > > On 8/11/03 9:45 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ... > > > Even though I have power supplies that add up to >1400 watts I know that > > isn't really the case be

Re: hot boxes and power consumption

2003-08-20 Thread Bill Morgan
A late reply, but I'm just back from vacation: On 8/11/03 9:45 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > Even though I have power supplies that add up to >1400 watts I know that > isn't really the case because the fuses haven't blown. > > Does anyone have any information or metho

Re: hot boxes and power consumption

2003-08-14 Thread Johann Koenig
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:45:08 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This weekend I finally carpeted my office and decided that it would be > really need to move all 4 computers into that one room (11' x 8'). > > It's now a good 10 degrees warmer than the rest of the house. > > I think I'll be mo

Re: hot boxes and power consumption

2003-08-14 Thread Pigeon
On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 10:45:08AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This weekend I finally carpeted my office and decided that it would be > really need to move all 4 computers into that one room (11' x 8'). > > It's now a good 10 degrees warmer than the rest of the house. > > I think I'll be mo

Re: hot boxes and power consumption

2003-08-14 Thread David Fokkema
On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 01:36:15PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote: > sounds like you need to open the window ... or buy a household 20" > fan for $20 from home depo > -- moving air is a lot harder to heat up In general, moving air is a lot _easier_ to heat up, according to the laws of thermodynamics

Re: hot boxes and power consumption

2003-08-14 Thread Alvin Oga
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Johann Koenig wrote: > On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:45:08 -0400 (EDT) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > This weekend I finally carpeted my office and decided that it would be > > really need to move all 4 computers into that one room (11' x 8'). > > > > It's now a good 10 degrees

Re: hot boxes and power consumption

2003-08-14 Thread Mike Dresser
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Johann Koenig wrote: > > Does anyone have any information or methods which might determine what > > a"typical" computers power consumption might be? Well, I found that when we moved to P4/CeleronP4 systems at the office here, that our APC 280VA battery backups just aren't pow

Re: hot boxes and power consumption

2003-08-14 Thread Alvin Oga
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003, David Fokkema wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 01:36:15PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote: > > sounds like you need to open the window ... or buy a household 20" > > fan for $20 from home depo > > -- moving air is a lot harder to heat up > > In general, moving air is a lot _easi

Re: hot boxes and power consumption

2003-08-14 Thread Mike Dresser
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It's now a good 10 degrees warmer than the rest of the house. My own room stays at about 80, even in the winter. Most winters I have the window open a crack to keep the temperature sane. One computer, one 21" monitor and one 17" monitor. Summers a

Re: hot boxes and power consumption

2003-08-14 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 10:45:08AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This weekend I finally carpeted my office and decided that it would be > really need to move all 4 computers into that one room (11' x 8'). > > It's now a good 10 degrees warmer than the rest of the house. With decent air circul

Re: hot boxes and power consumption

2003-08-12 Thread Pigeon
On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 07:14:58PM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: > Pigeon wrote: > >I'm going to guess that you maybe have more capable motherboards but > >fewer hard drives, and your PSUs are running at around half their > >capacity or a little more, which is good. > > > > No. I have at best a 750MH

hot boxes and power consumption

2003-08-11 Thread tallison
This weekend I finally carpeted my office and decided that it would be really need to move all 4 computers into that one room (11' x 8'). It's now a good 10 degrees warmer than the rest of the house. I think I'll be moving most of them back out of that room. But it brought me to another question

Re: hot boxes and power consumption

2003-08-11 Thread Tom Allison
Pigeon wrote: trip all the circuit breakers except the one feeding the computer to make sure; watch your electricity meter, and time how long it takes to use one kWh. If it takes 5 hours, your computer's taking 200W, etc. This will probably read high, ie. safe, and also tells you how much it costs