Re: hard disk access on every keystroke in console mode!

2003-12-20 Thread Bruce Sass
On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, michelle wrote: <...> > The pauses in KDE3 must be due to something else. Parts of KDE3 will freeze when kbuildsycoca runs. e.g., upgrading changes the menues, which gets noticed by FAM, which starts kbuildsycoca, which results in konqueror freezing until KDE sorts out what i

Re: hard disk access on every keystroke in console mode!

2003-12-20 Thread Kent West
michelle wrote: The normal login does some sort of database updating that does a lot of disk access (find, sort, and updatedb show up in a ps listing. What is this for BTW?) It updates the database that the "locate" command uses to find files on the system, as in "locate foo" or "locate mai

Re: hard disk access on every keystroke in console mode!

2003-12-20 Thread Joey Hess
michelle wrote: > That's it. That explains the disk activity in single user mode. I tried a > console login after normal boot and thought I had the same issue, but it's > something altogether different. The normal login does some sort of database > updating that does a lot of disk access (find,

Re: hard disk access on every keystroke in console mode!

2003-12-20 Thread michelle
Joey Hess wrote: > > Testing and unstable both come with a bootlogd that will log everything > that it output to the screen to /var/log/boot. It is active if you boot > to single user mode, and during the boot, but should be shut off after > boot is complete. This is a likely explanation for what

Re: Compromised? (Was Re: hard disk access on every keystroke in console mode!)

2003-12-20 Thread Lou Losee
* michelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-12-20 10:01]: > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..get a knoppix type cd burned and reboot from that, and redo your > > md5sum etc checks, if they manage to mess with a knoppix cd so > > it okays bad files without you noticing, these guys are _very_ good. > > > > ..and,

Re: hard disk access on every keystroke in console mode!

2003-12-20 Thread michelle
Micha Feigin wrote: > > Just hit me. What file system are you using? > iirc ext3 updates its journal every 5 seconds and reiserfs every 30 > seconds. If its ext3 try mounting it as ext2 and see if that makes a > difference. > No, I'm using ext2. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Compromised? (Was Re: hard disk access on every keystroke in console mode!)

2003-12-20 Thread michelle
Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..get a knoppix type cd burned and reboot from that, and redo your > md5sum etc checks, if they manage to mess with a knoppix cd so > it okays bad files without you noticing, these guys are _very_ good. > > ..and, you wanna check your iso's md5sums against a verified > debian

Re: hard disk access on every keystroke in console mode!

2003-12-18 Thread Tim Connors
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:24:37 -0500: > > --+jhVVhN62yS6hEJ8 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > michelle wrote: > > booting single user in 80x25 text mode gives still gives m

Re: hard disk access on every keystroke in console mode!

2003-12-18 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:23:35PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: > On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 01:06:02AM -0500, michelle wrote: > > Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > > > > > > What CPU? How much memory? What speed memory? What sort of disks > > > (bus type, speed, etc.)? What does 'hdparm /dev/hda' rep

Re: hard disk access on every keystroke in console mode!

2003-12-17 Thread Micha Feigin
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 01:06:02AM -0500, michelle wrote: > Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > > > > What CPU? How much memory? What speed memory? What sort of disks > > (bus type, speed, etc.)? What does 'hdparm /dev/hda' report? > > > > It sounds like you're hitting a bottleneck in the hardware

Re: hard disk access on every keystroke in console mode!

2003-12-17 Thread Micha Feigin
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 01:06:02AM -0500, michelle wrote: > Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > > > > What CPU? How much memory? What speed memory? What sort of disks > > (bus type, speed, etc.)? What does 'hdparm /dev/hda' report? > > > > It sounds like you're hitting a bottleneck in the hardware

Re: Compromised? (Was Re: hard disk access on every keystroke in console mode!)

2003-12-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 00:44:47 -0500, michelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Tim Connors wrote: > > > > When did it start happening for you? > > > > The disks I used were from sarge iso images I got during the > compromise. I also got some more a few days ago and t

Re: hard disk access on every keystroke in console mode!

2003-12-17 Thread Joey Hess
michelle wrote: > booting single user in 80x25 text mode gives still gives me the hard disk > acces on each keypress. Testing and unstable both come with a bootlogd that will log everything that it output to the screen to /var/log/boot. It is active if you boot to single user mode, and during the

Re: Compromised? (Was Re: hard disk access on every keystroke in console mode!)

2003-12-17 Thread Nate Duehr
On Wednesday 17 December 2003 01:01 am, Tim Connors wrote: > Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Wed, 17 Dec 2003 00:03:05 -0700: > > On Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003, at 22:14 America/Denver, Tim Connors wrote: > > > I'm still a little suspicious. We are behind a strong university > > > firewall, so

Re: hard disk access on every keystroke in console mode!

2003-12-17 Thread Lou Losee
> > booting single user in 80x25 text mode gives still gives me the hard disk > acces on each keypress. > > Oh yeah, I'm using sarge with various kernels (2.2.20, 2.4.22, 2.6.0-test9, > 2.6.0-test11) all giving the same results. Previously, woody was on this > machine, and this problem didn't

Re: hard disk access on every keystroke in console mode!

2003-12-17 Thread Mike Dresser
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, michelle wrote: > Or is this perhaps from a keylogger secretly installed? If so, how could I > detect it? > > Thank you. Well, you could try booting off the rescue disks/cd's, and see what happens. Also, I'd try going into the bios setup screen, and see if there's disk activ

Re: hard disk access on every keystroke in console mode!

2003-12-17 Thread michelle
Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > > What CPU? How much memory? What speed memory? What sort of disks > (bus type, speed, etc.)? What does 'hdparm /dev/hda' report? > > It sounds like you're hitting a bottleneck in the hardware > configuration. > Pentium 4, 2.1 GHz, 1 GB RAM, 200 MHz RAM IDE Bu

Re: Compromised? (Was Re: hard disk access on every keystroke in console mode!)

2003-12-17 Thread michelle
Tim Connors wrote: > > When did it start happening for you? > The disks I used were from sarge iso images I got during the compromise. I also got some more a few days ago and tried them. Same problem. All checksums are fine. No rootkits that I can find. The system is not on a network. (Only t

Re: Compromised? (Was Re: hard disk access on every keystroke in console mode!)

2003-12-17 Thread Tim Connors
Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Wed, 17 Dec 2003 00:03:05 -0700: > On Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003, at 22:14 America/Denver, Tim Connors wrote: > > > I'm still a little suspicious. We are behind a strong university > > firewall, so can't possibly imagine that I was compromised (although > > while

Re: Compromised? (Was Re: hard disk access on every keystroke in console mode!)

2003-12-17 Thread Nate Duehr
On Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003, at 22:14 America/Denver, Tim Connors wrote: I'm still a little suspicious. We are behind a strong university firewall, so can't possibly imagine that I was compromised (although while I was attempting to debug the situation (with no luck, of course), I did unplug the notw

Compromised? (Was Re: hard disk access on every keystroke in console mode!)

2003-12-16 Thread Tim Connors
michelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Mon, 15 Dec 2003 01:00:33 -0500: > Every time I perform a keypress at the console (command line, nano, etc.) I > can hear a tick from the hard disk. That's exactly what I had a week before the Big Debian Compromise. Didn't happen in X, only console. Also, tryi

Re: hard disk access on every keystroke in console mode!

2003-12-16 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 01:00:33AM -0500, michelle wrote: | Every time I perform a keypress at the console (command line, nano, etc.) I | can hear a tick from the hard disk. Lack of memory could result in symptons like this. The 8MB "router" at my parents' house nearly does this because it has t

hard disk access on every keystroke in console mode!

2003-12-15 Thread michelle
Every time I perform a keypress at the console (command line, nano, etc.) I can hear a tick from the hard disk. Also, compiling from the console is almost 4 times slower than compiling from inside KDE3. This doesn't make sense to me. I get similar results for 2.2, 2.4, and 2.6 kernels. Does any