piorunz writes:
> On 19/03/2023 11:01, b...@iinet.net.au wrote:
>
>> Please accept my sincerest apologies ... I have been offline/out of
>> range for the last 19 weeks and have only just now read your response.
>>
>> Your information and advice is most helpful and deeply appreciated.
>>
>> Many t
On 19/03/2023 11:01, b...@iinet.net.au wrote:
Please accept my sincerest apologies ... I have been offline/out of
range for the last 19 weeks and have only just now read your response.
Your information and advice is most helpful and deeply appreciated.
Many thanks and cheers,
BRN.
No problem
piorunz writes:
> On 28/07/2022 15:01, b...@iinet.net.au wrote:
>> Hi to all of you on the debian-user list.
>>
>> Is anyone out there successfully running any of the Radeon RX 6000
>> Series graphics cards on Debian-11 (Bullseye) installations with *no*
>>
On 28/07/2022 15:01, b...@iinet.net.au wrote:
Hi to all of you on the debian-user list.
Is anyone out there successfully running any of the Radeon RX 6000
Series graphics cards on Debian-11 (Bullseye) installations with *no*
backports?
I ask the above question because I can't see the req
Is there anyone out there who is running any of the Radeon RX 6000
Series graphics cards on Debian-11 (Bullseye) with KDE or the other
GUIs? If so, I would be interested to know about any
resolution/rendering issues that you may be encountering, *and also*, if
you are having no issues at all.
I
Hi to all of you on the debian-user list.
Is anyone out there successfully running any of the Radeon RX 6000
Series graphics cards on Debian-11 (Bullseye) installations with *no*
backports?
I ask the above question because I can't see the required versions of
"Navi" firmware; name
Felix Miata composed on 2020-04-07 16:13 (UTC-0400):
> Marcelo Laia composed on 2020-04-07 12:53 (UTC-0300):
>> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT
>> Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0a16] (rev 0b)
>> 03:00.0 Display controller [0380]: Advanced Micro Devi
Marcelo Laia composed on 2020-04-07 12:53 (UTC-0300):
> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT
> Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0a16] (rev 0b)
> 03:00.0 Display controller [0380]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
> Topaz XT [Radeon R7 M260/M265 / M340
Hi Felix and Greg, Thank you so much!
Here is more information.
I'm try to got 3 monitors in my debian bullseye. In this days/ weeks,
months, I have googled a lot to find any rule to tell me how I could to
put my third monitor to work. It is plugged in a DisplayLink FY
USB-DVI in this manner:
no
Greg Wooledge composed on 2020-04-07 10:20 (UTC-0400):
...
> 2) dmesg | grep -i firmware
> See if the kernel is trying to load any firmware and failing. If so,
> you will probably want to install some of the non-free firmware packages
> to support your hardware. This may involve adding contrib a
On Tue, Apr 07, 2020 at 10:40:10AM -0300, Marcelo Laia wrote:
> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated
> Graphics Controller (rev 0b)
> 03:00.0 Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Topaz XT
> [Radeon R7 M260/M265 / M340/M360 / M440/M445 /
Marcelo Laia composed on 2020-04-07 10:40 (UTC-0300):
...
> Am I not using the dedicated AMD/ATI video card? Why? How I could starting
> using it?
What is output from:
inxi -GSxxza
What type cable is connected to which physical connector on the PC?
What is the Dell BIOS setting for vid
Hi,
I have a Dell Inspiron I15-5547-A20 with a dedicated video card.
marcelo@marcelo:~$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT DRAM Controller (rev 0b)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated
Graphics Controller (rev 0b)
00:03.0 Audio device:
Mauro Condarelli composed on 2019-10-16 21:41 (UTC+0200):
> This is probably due to fact I need to start a second, different,
> x-server for the second card.
This has never been necessary for me.
Are you attempting to enable use of multiple seats?
Are you attempting to utilize the PCIe card wit
Hi all,
I am on a fully-up-to-date Debian Sid.
My system is i7-8700k and, till now I've been using the "internal"
graphics card (served by i915 driver).
Now I installed a new (external) Radeon graphics card.
It is correctly seen by kernel:
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporatio
On Thursday, 16 Nov 2017 at 08:45, Don Armstrong wrote:
[...]
> I *think* you should be able to use Reverse PRIME if you do the
> following:
>
> xrandr --setprovideroutputsource 1 0;
>
> and then xrandr --query; should show the other source.
Not sure what Reverse PRIME means but, in any case, yo
On Thursday, 16 Nov 2017 at 08:45, Don Armstrong wrote:
[...]
> I *think* you should be able to use Reverse PRIME if you do the
> following:
[+]
>
> xrandr --setprovideroutputsource 1 0;
>
> and then xrandr --query; should show the other source.
I'll give this a try next week (travelling again u
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> I have done the above: removed xorg.conf and placed a copy of the log
> file at:
>
> http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucecesf/tmp/xorglog.txt
Perfect.
> The output of xrandr is:
>
> $ xrandr --listproviders
> Providers: number : 2
> Provider 0: id: 0xc3 cap: 0x7,
On Wednesday, 15 Nov 2017 at 05:15, Felix Miata wrote:
> Eric S Fraga composed on 2017-11-03 14:22 (UTC):
>
>> I am trying to get a similar system configure with Debian testing/buster
>> and not getting anywhere beyond having two monitors on a single card
>> recognised.
Hello Felix,
thanks for y
Eric S Fraga composed on 2017-11-03 14:22 (UTC):
> I am trying to get a similar system configure with Debian testing/buster
> and not getting anywhere beyond having two monitors on a single card
> recognised.
Is this a first try (has this ever worked before trying with Buster)?
> I have three m
On Tuesday, 14 Nov 2017 at 10:31, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Nov 2017, Eric S Fraga wrote:
>> On Friday, 3 Nov 2017 at 11:19, Don Armstrong wrote:
>> > What happens if you run xrandr --output DVI-I-1-2 --auto; ?
>
>>
>> $ xrandr --output DVI-I-1-2 --auto
>> warning: output DVI-I-1-2 not fo
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> On Friday, 3 Nov 2017 at 11:19, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > What happens if you run xrandr --output DVI-I-1-2 --auto; ?
>
> $ xrandr --output DVI-I-1-2 --auto
> warning: output DVI-I-1-2 not found; ignoring
This looks like xrandr isn't seeing the second ca
On Friday, 3 Nov 2017 at 11:19, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Nov 2017, Eric S Fraga wrote:
>> I am trying to get a similar system configure with Debian testing/buster
>> and not getting anywhere beyond having two monitors on a single card
>
>> recognised. I have three monitors, two on first
On Fri, 03 Nov 2017, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> I am trying to get a similar system configure with Debian testing/buster
> and not getting anywhere beyond having two monitors on a single card
> recognised. I have three monitors, two on first card and 1 on second
> card. Only the ones of the first card
On Sunday, 1 Jan 2017 at 22:03, jurek wrote:
> How to use two graphics cards and two monitors on nouveau driver.I
> have Nvidia gtx 650 ti boost and Nvidia gt 240 card.
Did you get anywhere with this?
I am trying to get a similar system configure with Debian testing/buster
and not g
On 01/10/2017 11:19 AM, Teemu Likonen wrote:
Dan Ritter [2017-01-10 10:56:21-05] wrote:
If you are using open drivers, `xrandr` should be able to list the
available outputs and modes and change between them.
If you are using proprietary NVidia drivers, "nvidia-settings" should
be able to work
Dan Ritter [2017-01-10 10:56:21-05] wrote:
> If you are using open drivers, `xrandr` should be able to list the
> available outputs and modes and change between them.
>
> If you are using proprietary NVidia drivers, "nvidia-settings" should
> be able to work for you.
xrandr should work nicely wit
On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 12:43:02AM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote:
>
> So a generic graphics card circa 2009, with a nVidia GeForce 9800 GTX+
> chipset, with an old D-type connector, a DVI connector, and an HDMI
> connector -- would you expect it to be able to drive more than one
> display? Given t
On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 10:43:10PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
> Mark Fletcher composed on 2017-01-04 23:30 (UTC+0900):
>
> >I've seen several people say or imply this in the past. But I have an
> >ignorant question I am almost too embarrassed to ask (almost). Most
> >normal cards have only one conn
Mark Fletcher composed on 2017-01-04 23:30 (UTC+0900):
I've seen several people say or imply this in the past. But I have an
ignorant question I am almost too embarrassed to ask (almost). Most
normal cards have only one connector of each type.
AFAIK, those with only one standard connector, unles
On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 03, 2017 at 09:37:00AM -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
>> On 01/01/2017 04:03 PM, jurek wrote:
>> >How to use two graphics cards and two monitors on nouveau driver.I have
>> >Nvidia gtx 650 ti boost and Nvidi
On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 11:30:11PM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 03, 2017 at 09:37:00AM -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
> > On 01/01/2017 04:03 PM, jurek wrote:
> > >How to use two graphics cards and two monitors on nouveau driver.I have
> > >Nvidia gtx 650 ti b
On Tue, Jan 03, 2017 at 09:37:00AM -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
> On 01/01/2017 04:03 PM, jurek wrote:
> >How to use two graphics cards and two monitors on nouveau driver.I have
> >Nvidia gtx 650 ti boost and Nvidia gt 240 card.
> >
>
> I agree with the comment that you can
On 01/01/2017 04:03 PM, jurek wrote:
How to use two graphics cards and two monitors on nouveau driver.I have
Nvidia gtx 650 ti boost and Nvidia gt 240 card.
I agree with the comment that you can use just one video card for two
monitors. I run two IDENTICAL nvidia cards with 4 monitors, using
jurek [2017-01-01 22:03:57+01] wrote:
> How to use two graphics cards and two monitors on nouveau driver.I have
> Nvidia gtx 650 ti boost and Nvidia gt 240 card.
See "xrandr" command's output. It may already show your display outputs.
If so, then maybe something like:
x
On 01/01/17 04:03 PM, jurek wrote:
How to use two graphics cards and two monitors on nouveau driver.I
have Nvidia gtx 650 ti boost and Nvidia gt 240 card.
nouveau version :
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 1:1.0.11-1 amd64 X.Org X server -- Nouveau
display driver
lspci -v | grep NVIDIA
01:00.0
On 2017-01-01 22:03 +0100, jurek wrote:
> How to use two graphics cards and two monitors on nouveau driver.I
> have Nvidia gtx 650 ti boost and Nvidia gt 240 card.
I'm not quite sure why you use such a setup, a single card would be fine
for two monitors. Anyway, please consult the N
How to use two graphics cards and two monitors on nouveau driver.I have
Nvidia gtx 650 ti boost and Nvidia gt 240 card.
nouveau version :
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 1:1.0.11-1 amd64 X.Org X server -- Nouveau
display driver
lspci -v | grep NVIDIA
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA
At the moment, I have to reboot to MS Windows in order to take full
advantage of all three of the monitors on my desk, but I'd usually rather
not boot to MS Windows.
I'd like to make it so that my monitor setup works as well under Debian.
The dock for my Dell laptop has two DVI ports and a VGA po
On Ma, 19 nov 13, 22:57:41, Mark Fletcher wrote:
>
> I just ran this just now (not expecting to find anything since the machine
> is fine) and I see it produces a detailed process list as a one-off. I will
> run when the problem hits as you suggested. Anything in particular you are
> looking for?
Andrei POPESCU gmail.com> writes:
>
>
> Could you please try to run following command before killing gdm3 and
> post the output here?
>
> top -b -n 1
>
> Kind regards,
> Andrei
Thanks Andrei, I will try this at the weekend, machine is running critical
tasks while the markets are open s
On Ma, 19 nov 13, 22:40:56, Mark Fletcher wrote:
>
> I am running Gnome launched from GDM3. When I select regular Gnome (ie
> "new" Gnome with the bells and whistles) it works for a while and then
> randomly freezes -- often but not exclusively when I am trying to switch
> desktops, watch a video,
Hello the list!
I am running Wheezy on a self-built Intel Core i7 920 with 24GB of RAM and
an nVidia GeForce 9800 GTX+ graphics card. I am using the nVidia
proprietary driver downloaded from the debian repository along with the
kernel module built by the usual Debian installation process.
I am ru
aticonfig --initial
aticonfig: No supported adapters detected.
sorry I just followed up this email but met above issue.
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:30 AM, Andrew Wood wrote:
> Thanks. Presumably that aticonfig --initial command makes an alteration to
> the xorg.conf file to tell it to use the ne
Thanks. Presumably that aticonfig --initial command makes an alteration
to the xorg.conf file to tell it to use the new driver?
On 30/04/11 19:25, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Sb, 30 apr 11, 17:43:12, Andrew Wood wrote:
OK Ive installed the firmware and its better but not perfect. Full
screen vide
On Sb, 30 apr 11, 17:43:12, Andrew Wood wrote:
> OK Ive installed the firmware and its better but not perfect. Full
> screen video is still too choppy to watch.
>
> How do I install the closed source ATI driver?
From memory this should do it (all commands need root privileges):
apt-get install f
OK Ive installed the firmware and its better but not perfect. Full
screen video is still too choppy to watch.
How do I install the closed source ATI driver?
On 11/04/11 15:59, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
The firmware for the radeon HD is in the package firmware-linux-nonfree.
--
To UNSUBSCR
Thats got it.
root@andrew-debian-pc:/home/andrew# dmesg | grep firmware
[ 15.017339] rt61pci :02:05.0: firmware: requesting rt2561s.bin
[ 20.434307] platform r600_cp.0: firmware: requesting radeon/RV730_pfp.bin
[ 20.442403] r600_cp: Failed to load firmware "radeon/RV730_pfp.bin"
[ 20.
Op 11-04-11 16:22, Andrew Wood schreef:
> On 26/03/11 08:52, Andrei Popescu wrote:
>> Do you mean no output or no problems? You should see at least the
>> messages stating the firmware has been loaded. Hint pass -i to grep ;)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Andrei
> No output from the grep command:
>
>
> root@
On 26/03/11 08:52, Andrei Popescu wrote:
Do you mean no output or no problems? You should see at least the
messages stating the firmware has been loaded. Hint pass -i to grep ;)
Regards,
Andrei
No output from the grep command:
root@debian:/home/andrew# grep -i 'firmware' /var/log/syslog
root@
On Vi, 25 mar 11, 17:20:58, Andrew Wood wrote:
>
> On 20 Mar 2011, at 14:09, Liam O'Toole wrote:
>
> > If you grep /var/log/syslog for 'firmware' you should see what firmware
> > is requested and what is missing, if any.
>
> Absolutely nothing.
Do you mean no output or no problems? You should
On 20 Mar 2011, at 14:09, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> If you grep /var/log/syslog for 'firmware' you should see what firmware
> is requested and what is missing, if any.
Absolutely nothing. Would I be better switching to AMDs proprietory driver?
Whats with having to edit the /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-
On 2011-03-20, Andrew Wood wrote:
> Why does Debian (Squeeze) not work well with ATI /AMD Radeon HD cards?
>
> I had to edit the /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf in order to prevent the
> fideo output being turned off during bootup but even then the graphics
> performance is unusable.
>
> Im not
Why does Debian (Squeeze) not work well with ATI /AMD Radeon HD cards?
I had to edit the /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf in order to prevent the fideo
output being turned off during bootup but even then the graphics performance is
unusable.
Im not sure what driver is being used as I dont know h
KS wrote:
> deloptes wrote:
>> KS wrote:
>>
>> could you also post the xorg log file?
>>
>> regards
>>
>>
> Here it is: http://pastebin.com/ihVCH4Ek
>
> I have been able to login to KDE after the upgrade. Somehow
> plasma-desktop was uninstalled during the process :(
>
> I was able to set th
deloptes wrote:
> KS wrote:
>
> could you also post the xorg log file?
>
> regards
>
>
Here it is: http://pastebin.com/ihVCH4Ek
I have been able to login to KDE after the upgrade. Somehow
plasma-desktop was uninstalled during the process :(
I was able to set the TV on the right of my monitor
deloptes wrote:
> KS wrote:
>
> could you also post the xorg log file?
>
> regards
>
>
Oops, I should have included that earlier. But I have logged out after a
safe-upgrade and am unable to get anything but a black screen after
login (KDE session). The upgrade installed KDE 4.4 and because of
KS wrote:
could you also post the xorg log file?
regards
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ter the PCI-E card
>> as D-SUB+HDMI output in the BIOS. This is on a Debian Unstable box.
>>
>> The question is: would it be possible to use two graphics cards from
>> different manufacturers?
>>
>> I also noticed that the onboard chipset does not come up with
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 19:53:58 -0400, KS wrote:
(..)
> The question is: would it be possible to use two graphics cards from
> different manufacturers?
Yes, but as Victor suggested, many motherboard manufacturers
automatically disable onboard chipset as soon as the PCI-e slot is
occupied w
on a Debian Unstable box.
>
> The question is: would it be possible to use two graphics cards from
> different manufacturers?
>
> I also noticed that the onboard chipset does not come up with lspci.
>
> Any suggestions on how to proceed with this?
> /KS
>
&
(onboard) to play movies directly on the TV rather than using a
DVD-RW (current method).
I did configure the onboard chipset to be detected after the PCI-E card
as D-SUB+HDMI output in the BIOS. This is on a Debian Unstable box.
The question is: would it be possible to use two graphics cards from
On 3/19/07, Peter Hillier-Brook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Guillermo Garron wrote:
> On 3/18/07, Peter Hillier-Brook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> It looks like my graphics card is slowly dying and I would value input
>> on optimal chipsets/manufacturers for a replacement in the context of
>> Deb
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 16:46 +, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
> > http://linux.go2linux.org/node/39
>
> That's got to be useful! Many thanks to you and all other commentators.
> I had the notion that ATI was not a supportable card type and it's good
> to be educated.
Keep in mind that only refe
Guillermo Garron wrote:
On 3/18/07, Peter Hillier-Brook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It looks like my graphics card is slowly dying and I would value input
on optimal chipsets/manufacturers for a replacement in the context of
Debian (Etch presently). No especial requirements in terms of high
perfo
additional drivers instalation if you
> need 3D acceleration. But I don't know which intel chips are supported
> by the drivers - probably all the new ones are, but if you decide then check
> that out.
Intel does not do stand alone graphics cards, only integrated circuits.
There are rum
On 3/18/07, Peter Hillier-Brook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It looks like my graphics card is slowly dying and I would value input
on optimal chipsets/manufacturers for a replacement in the context of
Debian (Etch presently). No especial requirements in terms of high
performance, just something th
Użytkownik Thomas Jollans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisał:
>On Sunday 18 March 2007 23:10, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
>> It looks like my graphics card is slowly dying and I would value input
>> on optimal chipsets/manufacturers for a replacement in the context of
>> Debian (Etch presently). No especia
On Sunday 18 March 2007 23:10, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
> It looks like my graphics card is slowly dying and I would value input
> on optimal chipsets/manufacturers for a replacement in the context of
> Debian (Etch presently). No especial requirements in terms of high
> performance, just somethi
It looks like my graphics card is slowly dying and I would value input
on optimal chipsets/manufacturers for a replacement in the context of
Debian (Etch presently). No especial requirements in terms of high
performance, just something that is fully supported under Linux.
Thanks for any commen
On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 10:42:14AM -0800, Alan Ianson wrote:
> On Wed January 3 2007 10:35, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 10:28:36 -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > > My old Matrox video card is dying. I have a new e-geforce
> > > 6200 and an Etch system. I have picked up on some
Hello Paul.
Paul E Condon, 03.01.2007 18:28:
> And I have no clear idea as to how to reconfigure
> xorg most simply. I think it should just work -- if I type the right
> command at the right time. Am I correct? What is the magic command?
It’s this one:
# dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
If you did
On Wed January 3 2007 10:35, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 10:28:36 -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > My old Matrox video card is dying. I have a new e-geforce
> > 6200 and an Etch system. I have picked up on some issues about drivers
> > for mVidia cards, but have no idea whether t
On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 10:28:36 -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
> My old Matrox video card is dying. I have a new e-geforce
> 6200 and an Etch system. I have picked up on some issues about drivers
> for mVidia cards, but have no idea whether they are show stoppers for
> my using this 6200. And I have
My old Matrox video card is dying. I have a new e-geforce
6200 and an Etch system. I have picked up on some issues about drivers
for mVidia cards, but have no idea whether they are show stoppers for
my using this 6200. And I have no clear idea as to how to reconfigure
xorg most simply. I think it s
I am inquiring about the suitability of NVIDIA PCI
Express graphics card for a Debian Sarge system.
Can anyone please tell me whether the NVIDIA Geforce
6200 series (in particular the Geforce 6200 and the
Geforce 6200TC) of PCI Express graphics cards are
completely okay for use in a Debian
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> On Monday, August 14, 2006 11:52 AM -0500, Albert Dengg wrote:
> ...
> At least they can do it, whether we approve of the results of not.
> That's not the case for Debian. If you have to
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> I very much agree. To me the Linux distribution that Debian has become
> is very impressive, and I hope that continues. And if Debian is able to
> become more user-friendly, that is
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> >>> On Monday, August 14, 2006 6:
>Paul Johnson wrote:
>
>Someone needs to go read the Advocacy HOWTO again.
>http://ursine.ca/cgi-bin/dwww/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/Advocacy.html
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> On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 07:30:11PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
>> On Monday 14 August 2006 11:04, Seth Goodman wrote:
>>> On Monday, August 14, 2006 6:20 AM -0500, George Borisov wrote:
Anthony M Simonelli wrote:
[snip]
>
On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 07:30:11PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Monday 14 August 2006 11:04, Seth Goodman wrote:
> > On Monday, August 14, 2006 6:20 AM -0500, George Borisov wrote:
> > > Anthony M Simonelli wrote:
> > > > I just get a little upset when people want to mold Debian into
> > > > som
On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 07:52:03PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Monday 14 August 2006 19:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 08:10:48PM -0400, Ishwar Rattan wrote:
> > > On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Seth Goodman wrote:
> > > >desire to learn, and some are here to teach as well. I'm
Wow, I fully agree what cr stated there. I have people calling upon me all the
time to solve their Windows problems and difficulties. For one, if GNU/Linux
was to be sold in stores on pre-installed system, such as in Future Shop and
Circut City, GNU/Linux would gain more popularity. Since GNU
Seth Goodman wrote:
>
> Does that represent the Debian position? I'd very much like to know.
> If so, I'll continue to use it in server applications and stop
> recommending it to friends who are not computer professionals. That
> would certainly make my life easier and Microsoft more profitable.
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:45, Seth Goodman wrote:
>
> Nothing would make me happier than if I believed this. Unfortunately,
> they continue to do one thing right where the non-commercial Linux
> distros have consistently failed, and this prevents the scenario that
> you suggest from happening. That
On Monday 14 August 2006 19:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 08:10:48PM -0400, Ishwar Rattan wrote:
> > On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Seth Goodman wrote:
> > >desire to learn, and some are here to teach as well. I'm also saying
> > >that most non-technical computer users are not capab
Seth Goodman wrote:
...
Microsoft's present marketing-blurb overtures in the direction of
free/open source scream that they are aware of it also.
Even that will quieten down, when the effluent from the quagmire of
their own creation fills their mouths, as they go under for the
final time.
Nothi
On Monday 14 August 2006 11:04, Seth Goodman wrote:
> On Monday, August 14, 2006 6:20 AM -0500, George Borisov wrote:
> > Anthony M Simonelli wrote:
> > > I just get a little upset when people want to mold Debian into
> > > something like a Windows clone. If you want that, try a
> > > Debian-deriv
On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 08:10:48PM -0400, Ishwar Rattan wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Seth Goodman wrote:
>
> >desire to learn, and some are here to teach as well. I'm also saying
> >that most non-technical computer users are not capable of learning
> >Debian, as it exists today. While som
On Monday 14 August 2006 17:10, Ishwar Rattan wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Seth Goodman wrote:
> > desire to learn, and some are here to teach as well. I'm also saying
> > that most non-technical computer users are not capable of learning
> > Debian, as it exists today. While some may disagree,
Seth Goodman wrote:
On Monday, August 14, 2006 6:23 PM -0500, Katipo wrote:
When I started out, all I had to master were the intracacies of
apt-get.
That's because you had the aptitude and desire to learn.
But wait. I thought he had the apt-get.
*ducks*
--
K
On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 01:20 +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 13:04:45 -0500, Seth Goodman wrote:
> > Does that represent the Debian position? I'd very much like to know.
> > If so, I'll continue to use it in server applications and stop
> > recommending it to friends who are
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Seth Goodman wrote:
desire to learn, and some are here to teach as well. I'm also saying
that most non-technical computer users are not capable of learning
Debian, as it exists today. While some may disagree, I consider that a
problem.
Your words of wisdom have been no
On Monday, August 14, 2006 6:23 PM -0500, Katipo wrote:
> Seth Goodman wrote:
>
> > You are the sysadmin for these two Windows-type users, which is
> > the only environment in which they can realistically use Debian.
> > Take away the sysadmin or Linux mentor and the chances of them
> > being able
On Monday, August 14, 2006 5:48 PM -0500, Katipo wrote:
> Seth Goodman wrote:
>
> If that were true, the vast majority of us, who used to be Windows
> users, wouldn't be here.
Right. I use Windows for most of my work projects, and before that, I
used Unix for many years. I'm not a casual comput
Seth Goodman wrote:
You are the sysadmin for these two Windows-type users, which is the only
environment in which they can realistically use Debian. Take away the
sysadmin or Linux mentor and the chances of them being able to configure
a system that is as useful to them as their Windows boxes a
On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 13:04:45 -0500, Seth Goodman wrote:
> On Monday, August 14, 2006 6:20 AM -0500, George Borisov wrote:
>
> > Anthony M Simonelli wrote:
> > >
> > > I just get a little upset when people want to mold Debian into
> > > something like a Windows clone. If you want that, try a
>
Kent West wrote:
George Borisov wrote:
I can not speak about other people
And yet, as I read your comments, I almost thought it was me speaking.
I use Debian because it is an operating system I can
_trust_ and it is 100% free as in speech and beer (to me, the
speech bit is actual
Seth Goodman wrote:
On Monday, August 14, 2006 6:20 AM -0500, George Borisov wrote:
Anthony M Simonelli wrote:
I just get a little upset when people want to mold Debian into
something like a Windows clone. If you want that, try a
Debian-derivative such as Linspire or Xandros.
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