On Sat, 16 Sep 2017 15:22:08 + (UTC)
Curt wrote:
Hello Curt,
>The recourse to encryption is tempting to the serious-minded; however, I
>fear it just red-flags you for further and more exhaustive study.
If you routinely encrypt everything, there's nothing to red-flag any
particular email.
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On 2017-09-16, Dan Purgert wrote:
> Greg Wooledge wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:00:19PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
>>> I read the "for backup purposes" as being a euphemism, implying that the
>>> second copy was being kept for nefarious purposes, including so that it
>>> could be reviewed (
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:00:19PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
>> I read the "for backup purposes" as being a euphemism, implying that the
>> second copy was being kept for nefarious purposes, including so that it
>> could be reviewed (including by third parties) even if the u
On Thursday, September 14, 2017 09:23:32 PM David Wright wrote:
> On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 12:36:12 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 14 September 2017 11:55:34 Reco wrote:
> > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:19:45AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > > > Do you have a similar
> > > > strategy for
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:00:19PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> I read the "for backup purposes" as being a euphemism, implying that the
> second copy was being kept for nefarious purposes, including so that it
> could be reviewed (including by third parties) even if the user had
> deleted the "vis
On 2017-09-14 at 12:34, David Wright wrote:
> On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 19:25:15 (+0300), Reco wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:15:17AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 18:55:34 (+0300), Reco wrote:
>
It's very easy to setup mail delivery in such way that every
>>>
On 14/09/17 07:32, Steve Kleene wrote:
> My employer is forcing me to shut down my long-time Linux mail server. I
> have no choice in the matter.
>
> My employer uses Microsoft Exchange/Outlook for mail. They have an Outlook
> Web App (OWA) that I can access from Firefox, but as far as I can tel
On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 12:36:12 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 14 September 2017 11:55:34 Reco wrote:
>
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:19:45AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > > On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 10:51:43 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > Begin rant:
> > >
> > > [..
On Thursday 14 September 2017 12:02:31 John Hasler wrote:
> Gene writes:
> > I have, live, a 5 machine home network here, and IMO here is where
> > imap belongs, so I could do my email from any of these machines by
> > pulling from their server with fetchmail, and making it available to
> > any of
On Thursday 14 September 2017 11:55:34 Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:19:45AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 10:51:43 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > Begin rant:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > Since they without doubt have a backdoor for the snooping
> > >
On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 19:25:15 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:15:17AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 18:55:34 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> > > It's very easy to setup mail delivery in such way that every e-mail is
> > > stored in two different places, first one f
On Thursday 14 September 2017 11:23:10 David Wright wrote:
> On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 10:59:01 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 14 September 2017 10:40:48 Frank wrote:
> > > Op 14-09-17 om 14:15 schreef to...@tuxteam.de:
> > > > I know, with pop3 you can theoretically leave your mail at t
On Thursday 14 September 2017 11:19:45 David Wright wrote:
> On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 10:51:43 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Begin rant:
>
> [...]
>
> > Since they without doubt have a backdoor for the snooping agencies,
> > this exposes my mail to these people for 1000's of times longer (If
> > I
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:15:17AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 18:55:34 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:19:45AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > > On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 10:51:43 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > Begin rant:
> > > [...]
>
On Thu, 14 Sep 2017 07:38:57 -0400
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, September 14, 2017 03:56:38 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 03:32:33PM -0400, Steve Kleene wrote:
> > > My employer is forcing me to shut down my long-time Linux mail
> > > server. I have no choic
On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 18:55:34 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:19:45AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 10:51:43 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > Begin rant:
> > [...]
> > > Since they without doubt have a backdoor for the snooping agencies, th
Gene writes:
> I have, live, a 5 machine home network here, and IMO here is where
> imap belongs, so I could do my email from any of these machines by
> pulling from their server with fetchmail, and making it available to
> any of these machines by imaping it. But I have been told, repeatedly,
> th
Hi.
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:19:45AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 10:51:43 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Begin rant:
> [...]
> > Since they without doubt have a backdoor for the snooping agencies, this
> > exposes my mail to these people for 1000's of times long
On Thu, 14 Sep 2017 21:58:17 +0900
soyeo...@doraji.xyz (Byung-Hee HWANG "(황병희, 黃"炳熙)) wrote:
>
> Somewhat it is off topic, how about forwarding? If it is possible at
> the server, then things are easy.
>
>
It is, or was on the versions of Exchange I've dealt with, last one
2007.
It is, however
On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 10:59:01 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 14 September 2017 10:40:48 Frank wrote:
>
> > Op 14-09-17 om 14:15 schreef to...@tuxteam.de:
> > > I know, with pop3 you can theoretically leave your mail at the
↑↑↑
On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 10:51:43 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> Begin rant:
[...]
> Since they without doubt have a backdoor for the snooping agencies, this
> exposes my mail to these people for 1000's of times longer (If I do it
> once a week for instance) compared to fetchmail pulling and deletin
On Thursday 14 September 2017 10:40:48 Frank wrote:
> Op 14-09-17 om 14:15 schreef to...@tuxteam.de:
> > I know, with pop3 you can theoretically leave your mail at the
> > server, but... the protocol makes it very difficult to see that
> > you don't download mails twice, or many times.
>
> Not in
On Thursday 14 September 2017 08:18:03 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 12:59:04PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > With IMAP, the expectation is that your MUA is just a viewer of
> > email. The mail is stored elsewhere and you want to
> > read/reply/manage it without wo
Op 14-09-17 om 14:15 schreef to...@tuxteam.de:
I know, with pop3 you can theoretically leave your mail at the
server, but... the protocol makes it very difficult to see that
you don't download mails twice, or many times.
Not in my experience. What makes you think it's difficult?
Regards,
Frank
In Article <201709131932.v8djwxmd016...@syrano.acb.uc.edu>,
Steve Kleene writes:
> My employer is forcing me to shut down my long-time Linux mail server. I
> have no choice in the matter.
>
> My employer uses Microsoft Exchange/Outlook for mail. They have an Outlook
> Web App (OWA) that I can
On qui, 14 set 2017, rhkramer wrote:
I'm sort of moving OT, but want to ask: presumably you think IMAP is
preferable to POP3--what makes you say that (in general)?
If you read your mail in more than one device, I'd say IMAP is a must.
Without it it's really hard to keep track of what's been r
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On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 12:59:04PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote:
[...]
> With IMAP, the expectation is that your MUA is just a viewer of
> email. The mail is stored elsewhere and you want to
> read/reply/manage it without worrying about storing it.
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On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 07:38:57AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
> I'm sort of moving OT, but want to ask: presumably you think IMAP is
> preferable to POP3--what makes you say that (in general)?
POP3 is only useful if you plan to always g
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 07:38:57AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, September 14, 2017 03:56:38 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 03:32:33PM -0400, Steve Kleene wrote:
> My employer is forcing me to shut down my long-time Linux mail server. I
> have no choice in th
On Thursday, September 14, 2017 03:56:38 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 03:32:33PM -0400, Steve Kleene wrote:
> > My employer is forcing me to shut down my long-time Linux mail server. I
> > have no choice in the matter.
> >
> > My employer uses Microsoft Exchange/Outlook fo
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On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 03:32:33PM -0400, Steve Kleene wrote:
> My employer is forcing me to shut down my long-time Linux mail server. I
> have no choice in the matter.
>
> My employer uses Microsoft Exchange/Outlook for mail. They have an Outlook
>
On 13.09.17 15:32, Steve Kleene wrote:
> My employer is forcing me to shut down my long-time Linux mail server. I
> have no choice in the matter.
>
> My employer uses Microsoft Exchange/Outlook for mail. They have an Outlook
> Web App (OWA) that I can access from Firefox, but as far as I can tel
On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 15:32:33 -0400
Steve Kleene wrote:
> My employer is forcing me to shut down my long-time Linux mail
> server. I have no choice in the matter.
>
> My employer uses Microsoft Exchange/Outlook for mail. They have an
> Outlook Web App (OWA) that I can access from Firefox, but a
On 2017-09-13 15:32, Steve Kleene wrote:
> My employer is forcing me to shut down my long-time Linux mail server. I
> have no choice in the matter.
>
> My employer uses Microsoft Exchange/Outlook for mail. They have an Outlook
> Web App (OWA) that I can access from Firefox, but as far as I can t
On 13/09/17 20:32, Steve Kleene wrote:
> My employer is forcing me to shut down my long-time Linux mail server. I
> have no choice in the matter.
>
> My employer uses Microsoft Exchange/Outlook for mail. They have an Outlook
> Web App (OWA) that I can access from Firefox, but as far as I can te
Could you please elaborate more about what exactly you trying to achieve?
You can setup Microsofck Exchange server to access it by IMAP transport
and use any compatible mail client for that, ex. Outlook or Thunderbird.
AFAIK, OWA is just a web-mail client to access Exchange via your browser.
There
My employer is forcing me to shut down my long-time Linux mail server. I
have no choice in the matter.
My employer uses Microsoft Exchange/Outlook for mail. They have an Outlook
Web App (OWA) that I can access from Firefox, but as far as I can tell you
cannot save a file to the local disk with O
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