On 23/07/2024 19:20, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
A bit off-topic question. In what wiki page you would expect to find
suggestions to inspect ~/.xsession-errors file and journalctl output?
I pasted ".xsession-errors" into the "Search:" field at the upper right
corner of any Debian wiki page and clicke
On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 14:20:43 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> The only helpful match is
>
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/JigdoOnLive?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=.xsession-errors&fullsearch=Text
>
> "What Does The Log Say?
>...
>If you're doing something with your window manage
Hi,
Max Nikulin wrote:
> A bit off-topic question. In what wiki page you would expect to find
> suggestions to inspect ~/.xsession-errors file and journalctl output?
I pasted ".xsession-errors" into the "Search:" field at the upper right
corner of any Debian wiki page and clicked the "Text" butto
Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 23/07/2024 04:09, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
>>$ cat ~/.xsession-errors
> [...]
>>[fvwm][executeModule]: <> No such module 'FvwmConsole' in
>> ModulePath '/usr/lib/fvwm/2.6.8'
>
> A bit off-topic question. In w
On 23/07/2024 04:09, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
$ cat ~/.xsession-errors
[...]
[fvwm][executeModule]: <> No such module 'FvwmConsole' in ModulePath
'/usr/lib/fvwm/2.6.8'
A bit off-topic question. In what wiki page you would expect to find
suggestions to inspect ~
Hi,
i wrote:
> > Four of five fingers point to me and my ~/.fvwm2rc":
> > ModulePath /usr/lib/fvwm/2.6.8
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> Why do you even have that line at all?
Cargo cult.
Once it was needed, then i carried it on, and finally i forgot about it.
The reason why
On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 23:09:59 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Four of five fingers point to me and my ~/.fvwm2rc":
>
> ModulePath /usr/lib/fvwm/2.6.8
>
> I see traces that i adjusted this multiple times over the years:
> /usr/lib/X11/fvwm2 , /usr/lib/fvwm/2.6.5 , /usr/
Cannot parse color "dtcolor5"
couldn't create gradient
sh: 1: fvwm-menu-xlock: not found
sh: 1: fvwm-menu-xlock: not found
sh: 1: xdg_menu: not found
[fvwm][executeModule]: <> No such module 'FvwmConsole' in ModulePath
'/usr/lib/fvwm/2.6.8'
[fvwm][e
On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 21:37:05 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> So how could i debug the start of fvwm Modules ?
> Is there any log file or configuration option ?
Error messages, if there are any, should be in ~/.xsession-errors for
most users. I'd start there.
-desktop and FvwmButtons for my xterm-making
button.
I have to run a script for new xterms and to move a little xterm window
to squeeze my way through the borders between the desktop screens.
(There were key combinations to change desktops. But i forgot them.)
So how could i debug the start of fvwm
On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 01:51:41PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
[...]
> Originally it did only put out text in an xterm, but then i shamelessly
> exploited code from the exploitation chain xpppload <- xisdnload <- xload
> to give it a histogram in ain additional separate window.
Now this one bea
e="???" ;;
esac
echo -ne "$online " ; dc -e "5k $NOW $FULL / p" ; date +"%F%a%n %T"
The fun part is convincing fvwm to do its thing:
# Style for bat, clock:
Style bat !Borders,
On 2023-10-22 at 07:24, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> I better not tell. My clock is a... shell script in a tiny Xterm
> which also shows my battery status.
Ooo, that sounds interesting. I don't currently have a laptop, so the
battery-status part wouldn't currently apply, but this sounds like
somethi
Hi,
to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> My clock is a... shell script in a tiny Xterm which
> also shows my battery status.
My digital clock with date display is a C program which mainly watches the
network traffic. It even has an own date format ("A0" = 2000, now is "C3")
which has an odd history beginnin
On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 11:16:25AM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Charlie wrote:
> > I removed the clock from the
> > FVWM task bar and Gkrellm now dis[pays the right time. So a fix
> > of sorts with which I can live.
>
> Congrats. :))
>
>
> &g
Hi,
Charlie wrote:
> I removed the clock from the
> FVWM task bar and Gkrellm now dis[pays the right time. So a fix
> of sorts with which I can live.
Congrats. :))
> being a bit long in
> the tooth to start relearning another window manager.
I'm using fvwm since th
" i'd say that the promised 1-second
> waiting period of "PeriodicTasks" is heavily shortened by the clock
> peculiarity.
>
>
> > Managed to get date and time right with the ntp commands, set
> > location etc., on Gkrellm at least. But the fvwm clock ha
ged to get date and time right with the ntp commands, set location
> etc., on Gkrellm at least. But the fvwm clock had frozen up and stopped.
That's quite normal with periodic jobs when the system time gets changed
backward. Possibly the clock would come back to life after the last shown
time
Hello All,
Have a a Dell Vostro laptop: Bookworm up to date and
upgraded operating system to that state. Using FVWM window
manager.
The date on that system is one day in advance and one hour late. Not
terrible,
However after a short period 100% of one of the
On Sun, 23 Jan 2022, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
PS: fvwm suggests using "-replace", but it is useless, as it just gives you a
new login window
I tried again, and now -replace works.
On Fri, 5 Feb 2021 08:00:03 -0500
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 05, 2021 at 09:46:15AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > > I think this is called "shading" [...]
> >
> > Glad it helped. Actually, I was unsure myself, because, although
> &g
On Fri, Feb 05, 2021 at 08:00:03AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
[...]
> It has to be enabled in your configuration. The default config for
> the current version of fvwm has it, but if you're using a config
> that you created for an older version (like I am), you may not even
On Fri, Feb 05, 2021 at 09:46:15AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > I think this is called "shading" [...]
>
> Glad it helped. Actually, I was unsure myself, because, although
> I do use fvwm, I somehow managed to make shading inaccessible to
> me (I don&#x
nformation I found it [...]
>
> Glad it helped. Actually, I was unsure myself, because, although
> I do use fvwm, I somehow managed to make shading inaccessible to
> me (I don't use it). Not having the time to research properly, I
> still decided to take the risk.
>
>
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 19:39:01 -0600
David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 05 Feb 2021 at 09:23:43 (+1100), Charlie wrote:
> > Using FVWM on Debian Bullseye.
> >
> > Sometimes [too often] I click on something and reduce a terminal
> > window to just the title bar alone.
>
On Fri, Feb 05, 2021 at 10:18:44AM +1100, Charlie wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 23:34:42 +0100
> wrote:
[...]
> > I think this is called "shading" [...]
> Thank you Tomas, with that information I found it [...]
Glad it helped. Actually, I was unsure myself, because,
On Fri 05 Feb 2021 at 09:23:43 (+1100), Charlie wrote:
> Using FVWM on Debian Bullseye.
>
> Sometimes [too often] I click on something and reduce a terminal window
> to just the title bar alone.
>
> Infuriating, because it catches me unawares and I don't realise
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 23:34:42 +0100
wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 05, 2021 at 09:23:43AM +1100, Charlie wrote:
> >
> > From my keyboard:
> >
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > Using FVWM on Debian Bullseye.
> >
> > Sometimes [too often] I click on
On Fri, Feb 05, 2021 at 09:23:43AM +1100, Charlie wrote:
>
> From my keyboard:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Using FVWM on Debian Bullseye.
>
> Sometimes [too often] I click on something and reduce a terminal window
> to just the title bar alone.
I th
From my keyboard:
Hello Everyone,
Using FVWM on Debian Bullseye.
Sometimes [too often] I click on something and reduce a terminal window
to just the title bar alone.
Infuriating, because it catches me unawares and I don't realise what I
did. Googling every time
Reco (12020-12-21):
> You're right. Xorg is a server, any window manager on top of it is
> merely an X client (a special one, but an interchangeable client).
> Wayland is not a server, it's a set of protocols. An implementation of
> these protocols inherently provides a set of functions that are pr
El mar., 22 dic. 2020 14:07, Greg Wooledge escribió:
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 08:12:28PM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > Last I read wayland had serious accessibility problems. How does fvwm
> > work with screen readers and similar accessibility items and is fvwm
> > goin
On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 08:12:28PM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> Last I read wayland had serious accessibility problems. How does fvwm
> work with screen readers and similar accessibility items and is fvwm
> going the way of xWindows?
I have no experience with screen readers, and ve
Last I read wayland had serious accessibility problems. How does fvwm
work with screen readers and similar accessibility items and is fvwm
going the way of xWindows?
On Mon, 21 Dec 2020, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 12:33:39
> From: Greg Wooledge
> To: de
Hi.
On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 12:33:39PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 12:12:05PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > > Makes you wonder how long it [X.org] will be around; I guess a fair while
> > > though.
> >
> > I can't see why it'd need to be around for very long,
On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 12:12:05PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > Makes you wonder how long it [X.org] will be around; I guess a fair while
> > though.
>
> I can't see why it'd need to be around for very long, given that it can
> be replaced by Wayland + Xwayland. So Xorg is only useful to the
Stefan Monnier (12020-12-21):
> I can't see why it'd need to be around for very long, given that it can
> be replaced by Wayland + Xwayland. So Xorg is only useful to the extent
> that it supports hardware that Wayland doesn't.
Quoting
https://wayland.freedesktop.org/docs/html/ch05.html#sect-X11-
> Makes you wonder how long it will be around; I guess a fair while
> though.
> [1] https://www.theregister.com/2020/10/30/x_server_lead_maintainer_declares/
I can't see why it'd need to be around for very long, given that it can
be replaced by Wayland + Xwayland. So Xorg is only useful to the ex
Sorry, quoting got messed up on my last email, fixed version below (I
hope)...
On Mon, 2020-12-21 at 08:15 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 06:32:20PM +0100, Kamil Jońca wrote:
[...]
> > As an user of FVWM (desktop box) and xfce (laptop) I feel little
> &g
On Mon, 2020-12-21 at 08:15 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 06:32:20PM +0100, Kamil Jońca wrote:
[...]
> As an user of FVWM (desktop box) and xfce (laptop) I feel little
> lost.
> In particular it is not clear to me if it will be possible to use
> FVWM /
>
. You just
don't get many to choose from.
> As an user of FVWM (desktop box) and xfce (laptop) I feel little lost.
> In particular it is not clear to me if it will be possible to use FVWM /
> xfce on top (X)Wayland?
> Will be possible to use emacsclient with ssh X tunneling?
Se
It seems, that main graphical UI base will be Wayland instead of X
Window.
If I understand correctly Wayland has no separate window manager
process.
As an user of FVWM (desktop box) and xfce (laptop) I feel little lost.
In particular it is not clear to me if it will be possible to use FVWM /
xfce
ait continues to work (even with its
> > bug).
> >
> > 1) The xterms' arguments, and (for some of them) the commands they run,
> >are computed in the shell script that is ~/.xsession. While some of
> >these might be simple to perform in fvwm-ese, not all of
ments, and (for some of them) the commands they run,
>are computed in the shell script that is ~/.xsession. While some of
>these might be simple to perform in fvwm-ese, not all of them are,
>and I'm not particularly well versed in fvwm-ese. I'm reasonably
>competen
On Mon Sep 10 08:47:39 EDT 2018, I wrote:
> I can't figure out where fvwm is getting the xpm icon for an xterm. ...
> In Debian 7, calling null.xpm gives me no xpm icon, just a title bar labeled
> "syrano". I prefer this because it's very small.
I now have this all
On Sat 22 Sep 2018 at 14:37:14 (+), Kleene, Steven (kleenesj) wrote:
> On September 21, 2018 11:35 PM, David Wright wrote:
>
> >> That sounds like a different problem: a race between fvwm and the
> >> xterms over which order they start in. The manner in which the race
On Sat 22 Sep 2018 at 07:55:12 (+0200), Nicolas George wrote:
> David Wright (2018-09-21):
> > That sounds like a different problem: a race between fvwm and the
> > xterms over which order they start in. The manner in which the race
> > affects me is that my (open) xterms ge
On September 21, 2018 11:35 PM, David Wright wrote:
>> That sounds like a different problem: a race between fvwm and the
>> xterms over which order they start in. The manner in which the race
>> affects me is that my (open) xterms get mapped all over the place
>> inst
David Wright (2018-09-21):
> That sounds like a different problem: a race between fvwm and the
> xterms over which order they start in. The manner in which the race
> affects me is that my (open) xterms get mapped all over the place
> instead of where I want them placed. The fix is s
On Thu 20 Sep 2018 at 01:39:07 (+), Kleene, Steven (kleenesj) wrote:
> On Mon Sep 10 08:47:39 EDT 2018, I wrote:
>
> >> I can't figure out where fvwm is getting the xpm icon for an xterm.
>
> On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 2:27 PM, David Wright replied:
>
&
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 07:18:40AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 08:44:10PM +, Kleene, Steven (kleenesj) wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > In fact I obsessively viewed all 386 xpm files on the whole system. None
> > other than /usr/share/pixmaps/mini.xterm_48x48.xpm matched t
On Mon Sep 10 08:47:39 EDT 2018, I wrote:
>> I can't figure out where fvwm is getting the xpm icon for an xterm.
On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 2:27 PM, David Wright replied:
> ... If you look at the man page, it explains the
> old option -n and says "If no suitabl
As you seem to be having trouble, here's a fuller answer than the one
I posted before.
On Mon 17 Sep 2018 at 12:05:35 (+), Kleene, Steven (kleenesj) wrote:
> I can't figure out where fvwm is getting the xpm icon for an xterm. The
> issue started when I upgraded from Debian v
..@gmx.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 2:15 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: Kleene, Steven (kleenesj)
Subject: Re: where does fvwm get its xterm icon?
Hi,
Kleene, Steven wrote:
> Yes. If I put the cursor in the little screenshot and type a command
> (echoed in a font too small to read),
and
to deactivate the shell as long as the window is iconized ?
Style "XTerm" IconOverride
Style "XTerm" Icon display.xpm
(The name of the .xpm file may be chosen freely, of course.)
Iirc, it was not necessary to restart fvwm (although this is supp
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On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 08:44:10PM +, Kleene, Steven (kleenesj) wrote:
[...]
> In fact I obsessively viewed all 386 xpm files on the whole system. None
> other than /usr/share/pixmaps/mini.xterm_48x48.xpm matched the icon
> displayed.
Not reall
On Tue 18 Sep 2018 at 09:26:29 (+1000), Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 08:44:10PM +, Kleene, Steven (kleenesj) wrote:
> > On Mon Sep 10 08:47:39 EDT 2018, I wrote:
> >
> > >> I can't figure out where fvwm is getting the xpm icon for an xterm.
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 08:44:10PM +, Kleene, Steven (kleenesj) wrote:
> On Mon Sep 10 08:47:39 EDT 2018, I wrote:
>
> >> I can't figure out where fvwm is getting the xpm icon for an xterm.
> >> ...
> >> I have this in ~/.fvwm/config:
> >>
On Mon Sep 10 08:47:39 EDT 2018, I wrote:
>> I can't figure out where fvwm is getting the xpm icon for an xterm.
>> ...
>> I have this in ~/.fvwm/config:
>> Style "XTerm" Icon null.xpm, SloppyFocus, IconBox 200x200-1+8
>> where null.xpm is inte
On Mon 17 Sep 2018 at 12:05:35 (+), Kleene, Steven (kleenesj) wrote:
> I can't figure out where fvwm is getting the xpm icon for an xterm. The
> issue started when I upgraded from Debian v7 (fvwm 1:2.5.30) to Debian v9
> (fvwm 1:2.6.7-3). In both cases fvwm-icons was also ins
Kleene, Steven (kleenesj) (2018-09-17):
> I can't figure out where fvwm is getting the xpm icon for an xterm.
AFAIK, Fvwm get most windows icons (as opposed to menu / button icons)
from the applications themselves.
Regards,
--
Nicolas George
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Hi,
Kleene, Steve wrote:
> I have this in ~/.fvwm/config:
> Style "XTerm" Icon null.xpm, SloppyFocus, IconBox 200x200-1+8
> where null.xpm is intended to call /usr/share/pixmaps/fvwm/null.xpm, a
> zero-byte file I created.
Maybe fvwm is not happy with the zero size.
W
I can't figure out where fvwm is getting the xpm icon for an xterm. The
issue started when I upgraded from Debian v7 (fvwm 1:2.5.30) to Debian v9
(fvwm 1:2.6.7-3). In both cases fvwm-icons was also installed.
I have this in ~/.fvwm/config:
Style "XTerm" Icon null.xpm, Slopp
On Tue 27 Feb 2018 at 03:58:30 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
> I have days (e actually hours) of experience with fvwm.
> Experts () are telling me that significant mods to config
> files *MANDATORY*. bull!!
>
> Can tweaking config file(s) be profitable? -- Sure!
>
Richard Owlett writes:
> I have days (e actually hours) of experience with fvwm.
> Experts () are telling me that significant mods to config files
> *MANDATORY*. bull!!
> Can tweaking config file(s) be profitable? -- Sure!
> Are they necessary? -- *NO WAY*!
Actual
I have days (e actually hours) of experience with fvwm.
Experts () are telling me that significant mods to config files
*MANDATORY*. bull!!
Can tweaking config file(s) be profitable? -- Sure!
Are they necessary? -- *NO WAY*!
The more I ask for meek user info (and receive *GEEK
On Mon 26 Feb 2018 at 20:24:28 (+0100), Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Richard Owlett wrote:
> > Without *ANY* customization, how much more can fvwm do for me?
>
> Without any customization by anybody it is quite useless.
Lest this give the wrong impression to someone co
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 10:17:46 -0600 John Hasler sent:
> BTW you should be editing ~/.fvwm/config if you are using the current
> release. The 2 was dropped from fvwm2 a long time ago and all fvwm
> related files placed under ~/.fvwm with config being the default
> config
On 02/26/2018 01:24 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
Hi,
Richard Owlett wrote:
Without *ANY* customization, how much more can fvwm do for me?
Without any customization by anybody it is quite useless.
*ROFL*
It may have aesthetic problems. BUT
My real world needs (not glittzy desires) were handled
Hi,
Richard Owlett wrote:
> Without *ANY* customization, how much more can fvwm do for me?
Without any customization by anybody it is quite useless.
With reasonable customization by an initial ~/.fvwm2rc and some additions
by myself, it does for me:
- Add handles to the windows so i can m
On Mon 26 Feb 2018 at 12:42:25 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 02/26/2018 10:54 AM, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >Am 2018-02-26 hackte Richard Owlett in die Tasten:
> >>I am finding lots of information on detailed low level configuration:
> >&
On 02/26/2018 12:12 PM, Curt wrote:
On 2018-02-26, Richard Owlett wrote:
Ahh, but a Flocken Elektrowagen might today may be more functional in
some circumstances than a Rolls Royce.
http://www.circuitousroot.com/artifice/programming/useful/fvwm/index.html
((yes)^((YES)^((*YES*)^(1000
On 02/26/2018 10:54 AM, Michelle Konzack wrote:
Hi,
Am 2018-02-26 hackte Richard Owlett in die Tasten:
I am finding lots of information on detailed low level configuration:
e.g. <http://zensites.net/fvwm/guide/index.html>
I'm using almost a default install changing only the wallpa
On 2018-02-26, Richard Owlett wrote:
>
> Ahh, but a Flocken Elektrowagen might today may be more functional in
> some circumstances than a Rolls Royce.
>
http://www.circuitousroot.com/artifice/programming/useful/fvwm/index.html
I only read the nice discussion of "Viewports
Richard Owlett writes:
> I remember 026's as the normal input device and a UART was square
> inches of a double sided board.
So do I. I kept on learning.
--
John Hasler
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA
pt an expired certificate.
Already had them bookmarked.
They, like <http://zensites.net/fvwm/guide/index.html>, might be
compared to an _Owner's Manual". I'm looking for something more like an
_Operator's Manual_.
The target audience of what I'm looking for would h
On 02/26/2018 10:17 AM, John Hasler wrote:
Richard Owlett writes:
Already had them bookmarked. They, like
<http://zensites.net/fvwm/guide/index.html>, might be compared to an
_Owner's Manual". I'm looking for something more like an _Operator's
Manual_.
The t
Hi,
Am 2018-02-26 hackte Richard Owlett in die Tasten:
> I am finding lots of information on detailed low level configuration:
> e.g. <http://zensites.net/fvwm/guide/index.html>
>
> I'm using almost a default install changing only the wallpaper and the
> default fo
ept an expired certificate.
>
>Already had them bookmarked.
>They, like <http://zensites.net/fvwm/guide/index.html>, might be
>compared to an _Owner's Manual". I'm looking for something more like an
>_Operator's Manual_.
>
>The target audience of w
Richard Owlett writes:
> Already had them bookmarked. They, like
> <http://zensites.net/fvwm/guide/index.html>, might be compared to an
> _Owner's Manual". I'm looking for something more like an _Operator's
> Manual_.
> The target audience of what I
On 02/26/2018 09:23 AM, David Wright wrote:
On Mon 26 Feb 2018 at 08:15:44 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
I am finding lots of information on detailed low level configuration:
e.g. <http://zensites.net/fvwm/guide/index.html>
I'm using almost a default install changing only the wa
On Mon 26 Feb 2018 at 08:15:44 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
> I am finding lots of information on detailed low level configuration:
> e.g. <http://zensites.net/fvwm/guide/index.html>
>
> I'm using almost a default install changing only the wallpaper and
> the d
On 02/26/2018 08:54 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
Hi,
Richard Owlett wrote:
http://zensites.net/fvwm/guide/index.html
That's a quick tour through a few gestures of fvwm.
Maybe it gives you some ideas for playing with the configuration.
But obviously you want something different.
"
Hi,
Richard Owlett wrote:
> http://zensites.net/fvwm/guide/index.html
That's a quick tour through a few gestures of fvwm.
Maybe it gives you some ideas for playing with the configuration.
But obviously you want something different.
> "not seeing the trees for the leaves"
On 2018-02-26, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I am finding lots of information on detailed low level configuration:
> e.g. <http://zensites.net/fvwm/guide/index.html>
>
> I'm using almost a default install changing only the wallpaper and the
> default font size for menus.
>
I am finding lots of information on detailed low level configuration:
e.g. <http://zensites.net/fvwm/guide/index.html>
I'm using almost a default install changing only the wallpaper and the
default font size for menus.
I'm getting swamped by too much fine detail. It's not
On 2018-02-24, Richard Owlett wrote:
>
> I had used netinst to do a base command line only install followed by
> doing "apt-get install fvwm".
>
> Didn't work. It needed "apt-get install xorg lightdm".
It worked perfectly.
--
“Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
-Oscar Wilde
On 02/23/2018 05:46 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
History
I run MATE, but to paraphrase a restaurant - "I want Debian MyWay" ;)
It was suggested that I wanted what KDE calls "activities".
It looked promising. I installed it. It suffers from featuritis.
fvwm-crystal was also sugge
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On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 09:57:12AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
[...]
> I just did "apt-get install xorg".
> Now typing "startx" at command line does give me a fvwm screen.
So fvwm is running already (more below)
> How
On Fri 23 Feb 2018 at 09:57:12 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I just did "apt-get install xorg".
> Now typing "startx" at command line does give me a fvwm screen.
Fine. Now use the mouse (click) to get a menu.
> However typing "fvwm" at command line gives
David Wright writes:
> It doesn't mean that if you install a package designed to run on X
> that apt will immediately install all the packages required for a
> functional X system.
Fvwm does not depend on an X server because it might be running on a
headless machine while an X ser
in package xinit, which is not a necessary part
> of X. So not a bad omen in itself.
xorg depends on xinit.
> > When I had initially done "apt-get install fvwm", should some
> > portion of the Xsystem been installed?
>
> Yes, I'd venture your X server is missi
On Fri 23 Feb 2018 at 10:23:53 (-0600), David Wright wrote:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> exec /usr/bin/fvwm >| $HOME/.fvwm-stdout 2>| $HOME/.fvwm-stderr &
> WMPID=$!
This line got wrapped; sorry.
> xterm …
> xterm …
> swisswatch -title local -nosha
;It was suggested that I wanted what KDE calls "activities".
> >>It looked promising. I installed it. It suffers from featuritis.
> >>fvwm-crystal was also suggested. When installed it was in some
> >>sense "cleaner" but still too busy. Launched f
;.
> >It looked promising. I installed it. It suffers from featuritis.
> >fvwm-crystal was also suggested. When installed it was in some
> >sense "cleaner" but still too busy. Launched fvwm which had been
> >installed by the fvwm-crystal package.
> >
> >Th
fers from featuritis.
fvwm-crystal was also suggested. When installed it was in some sense
"cleaner" but still too busy. Launched fvwm which had been installed
by the fvwm-crystal package.
The problem
It had "inherited" configuration items from fvwm-crystal. The web
pag
e no
X installed. Package xserver-xorg, I'd guess...
> I tried issuing "startx" itself and received "command not found".
Hm. This one is in package xinit, which is not a necessary part
of X. So not a bad omen in itself.
> When I had initially done "apt-get install f
On 02/23/2018 05:46 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
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I run MATE, but to paraphrase a restaurant - "I want Debian MyWay" ;)
It was suggested that I wanted what KDE calls "activities".
It looked promising. I installed it. It suffers from featuritis.
fvwm-crystal was also sugge
Richard Owlett writes:
> I rebooted expecting a minimal fvwm display. I got a command line. I
> found that though a "/home/richard/.fvwm" directory had been created,
> it was empty. I couldn't find copies of what files should have been
> there on initial first run. Onl
e in
> >
> > https://sources.debian.org/data/main/f/fvwm/1:2.6.7-3/default-config/config
> > which is the download view of
> > https://sources.debian.org/src/fvwm/1:2.6.7-3/default-config/config/
> >
> > It looks like a clean starting point for modification and enhancem
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