Re: small font

2024-07-06 Thread tomas
on of a smaller than default font size in > those > HTML emails, apparently to match what web designers were doing, making email > mousetype similar to the web page mousetype those eagle-eyed designers were > fond > of imposing on everyone in the days before zoom was invented. [.

Re: small font

2024-07-06 Thread Felix Miata
and Win95 seem to be the root blame for the practice of both use of not only HTML for email by default, but also of defaulting to imposition of a smaller than default font size in those HTML emails, apparently to match what web designers were doing, making email mousetype similar to the web page

Re: small font

2024-07-06 Thread Van Snyder
On Sat, 2024-07-06 at 15:41 +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > It's not my responsibility to deal with messages the senders aren't > > serious about being read. > > It's up to you of course but if that's your opinion then you always > have the option of simply not reading messages that a

Re: small font

2024-07-06 Thread debian-user
ines) with HTML parts that suggest using fonts that are too small for you. Alternatively: - you could search for how to adjust font sizes in evolution (hint edit/ preferences/ mail preferences/ general tab) - you could set evolution to display the plain text version of emails - you could choose

Re: small font

2024-07-05 Thread Max Nikulin
On 06/07/2024 01:01, Van Snyder wrote: I'm not able to read this message. I do not think you will manage to achieve anything on this way. The person has clearly expressed that their are not going to follow recommendations concerning message format and do not care if messages cause trouble fo

Re: small font

2024-07-05 Thread Van Snyder
t also has a minimum > displayed text size > option as web browsers offer. Ctrl-+ works on the entire window. So if the tiniest font is enlarged enough to be readable, the rest of the message doesn't fit anymore. And Evolution remembers it, so you have to be careful to count the number of times y

Re: small font

2024-07-05 Thread Felix Miata
Van Snyder composed on 2024-07-05 11:45 (UTC-0700): > On Fri, 2024-07-05 at 14:07 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >> > I'm not able to read this message. >> Can you suggest to us why you think that might be? > Because the message was composed in html using a very small

Re: small font

2024-07-05 Thread Van Snyder
On Fri, 2024-07-05 at 14:07 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > I'm not able to read this message. > > Can you suggest to us why you think that might be? Because the message was composed in html using a very small font, and my mail reader (evolution) automatically prefers to read ma

Re: small font

2024-07-05 Thread Felix Miata
Van Snyder composed on 2024-07-05 11:01 (UTC-0700): > I'm not able to read this message. Can you suggest to us why you think that might be? > On Fri, 2024-07-05 at 14:01 +0200, Richard wrote: >> You really need to better read who writes what. I didn't start the >> discussion on message sizes d

Re: small font

2024-07-05 Thread Van Snyder
I'm not able to read this message. On Fri, 2024-07-05 at 14:01 +0200, Richard wrote: > You really need to better read who writes what. I didn't start the > discussion on message sizes due to HTML, I simply ended it because of > irrelevance. > > On Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 1:30 PM Greg Wooledge > wrot

Re: small font

2024-07-05 Thread Richard
Thank god nobody needs help from people so hung up on absolute irrelevant stuff and rules that haven't made sense in decades - if ever. As you may have read from the threads, those rules aren't undisputed at all. If they where seen as relevant as some people want to make believe, the list maintaine

Re: small font

2024-07-05 Thread Nicolas George
Richard (12024-07-05): > You really need to better read who writes what. I didn't start the > discussion on message sizes due to HTML, I simply ended it because of > irrelevance. And that ended the willingness of many people to help you. Good luck with your problems. -- Nicolas George

Re: small font

2024-07-05 Thread Richard
You really need to better read who writes what. I didn't start the discussion on message sizes due to HTML, I simply ended it because of irrelevance. On Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 1:30 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > [...] you chose to shift the topic to message > sizes (which isn't the primary reason HTML e

Re: small font

2024-07-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
t in a small font. Some readers found your messages difficult to read for that reason, and we politely pointed it out to you. Everything after that has been you ranting against everyone who talks to you, shifting the goalposts, and refusing to acknowledge that *any* of your etiquette violations ar

Re: small font

2024-07-05 Thread Richard
And who was talking about transport? The whole discussion was about storage, and storing mail compressed is hardly a security issue. On Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 5:02 AM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Compression is a security hole. It leaks information. It should be > disabled. Infact, TLS v1.3 removed it f

Re: small font

2024-07-05 Thread Richard
Not how lossless compression works. The final size depends much more on the content than on how much content there is. By no means it's "proportional". On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 10:09 PM Michel Verdier wrote: > Compression reduces the size but it's proportionnal so don't negate the > extra html siz

Re: small font

2024-07-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Compression reduces the size but it's proportionnal so don't negate the > extra html size. The global size will always be 4-10x. No, the compression is not proportional. HTML is naturally very redundant, and machine-generated HTML like the one seen in Richard's email tends to be excruciatingly

Re: small font

2024-07-04 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 2:58 PM Richard wrote: > > Right, because 4x = 10x. Jesus, stop being so ridiculous. Also, there's some > magic trick called compression. Compression is a security hole. It leaks information. It should be disabled. Infact, TLS v1.3 removed it from the protocol. Also see

Re: small font

2024-07-04 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 9:58 AM jeremy ardley wrote: > > On 4/7/24 17:13, Roger Price wrote: > > > > The Debian mailing list Code of Conduct at > > https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ > > is clear: > > > > « Please don't send your messages in HTML; use plain text instead » > > I presume there is s

Re: small font

2024-07-04 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2024-07-04, Richard wrote: > Right, because 4x = 10x. Jesus, stop being so ridiculous. Also, there's > some magic trick called compression. Human readable text is especially easy > to compress, basically negating all those effects. So just stick to > reality, everything else is just embarrassin

Re: small font

2024-07-04 Thread Richard
Right, because 4x = 10x. Jesus, stop being so ridiculous. Also, there's some magic trick called compression. Human readable text is especially easy to compress, basically negating all those effects. So just stick to reality, everything else is just embarrassing. On Thu, Jul 4, 2024, 16:48 Greg Woo

Re: small font

2024-07-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jul 04, 2024 at 16:19:44 +0200, Richard wrote: > If you ever want to be taken seriously, stop spreading such bogus nonsense. > Even base64 encoding wouldn't blow up the size that much. No idea what bs > mail you are talking about, but for me, both the plain text and html > version are said

Re: small font

2024-07-04 Thread Richard
If you ever want to be taken seriously, stop spreading such bogus nonsense. Even base64 encoding wouldn't blow up the size that much. No idea what bs mail you are talking about, but for me, both the plain text and html version are said to be 4k in size (by du). Even though that's not that exact, si

Re: small font

2024-07-04 Thread Richard
rity. Best On Thu, Jul 4, 2024, 14:26 Greg Wooledge wrote: > "Richard", for example, seemed to be > unaware that the HTML parts of his multipart messages were being sent > with the font size set to "small". >

Re: small font

2024-07-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
/07/msg00124.html In a way, this is good. It lets Richard see what his messages look like to other people. At least, assuming his browser isn't configured to ignore his own font size directives If you still have one of Richard's messages in your inbox, you can look at the raw HTML.

Re: small font

2024-07-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
iciency than one would expect on, say, a Debian developers' list. As long as people are not intentionally being rude about it, I'd give them the benefit of the doubt. "Richard", for example, seemed to be unaware that the HTML parts of his multipart messages were being sent with

Re: small font

2024-07-04 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2024-07-04, jeremy ardley wrote: > The problem is mostly because users have email software that automatically > uses mixed format. That's not their fault as they are probably unaware of the > problem. And lots of MUA only show HTML version, hiding the text copy and the problem. > Unless there

Re: small font

2024-07-04 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/04/2024 06:09 AM, jeremy ardley wrote: On 4/7/24 18:34, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: But let me try: perhaps because the people who set up the mailing list don't believe in enforcing behavior by technological means, but rather by convincing people? If I understand the history correctly: -

Re: small font

2024-07-04 Thread jeremy ardley
On 4/7/24 18:34, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: But let me try: perhaps because the people who set up the mailing list don't believe in enforcing behavior by technological means, but rather by convincing people? If I understand the history correctly: - All early email lists were text only - After

Re: small font

2024-07-04 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jul 04, 2024 at 06:20:22PM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > > On 4/7/24 17:13, Roger Price wrote: > > > > The Debian mailing list Code of Conduct at > > https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ > > is clear: > > > > « Please don't send your messages in HTML; use plain text instead » > > I p

Re: small font

2024-07-04 Thread jeremy ardley
On 4/7/24 17:13, Roger Price wrote: The Debian mailing list Code of Conduct at https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ is clear: « Please don't send your messages in HTML; use plain text instead » I presume there is some compelling reason that the mailing list doesn't filter html emails an

Re: small font

2024-07-04 Thread Roger Price
On Thu, 4 Jul 2024, Michel Verdier wrote: Tell that to your mail progra= ---^^^ I would add that it's up to the *sender* mail program to send text only mail to this list (and others). As the html part is useless and multiply the mail size by almost 10.

Re: small font

2024-07-04 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Michel Verdier wrote: > I would add that it's up to the *sender* mail program to send text only > mail to this list (and others). I found this link in the monthly list FAQ: https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct where i read: "Please don't send your messages in HTML; use pl

Re: small font

2024-07-04 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2024-07-04, Max Nikulin wrote: >> Tell that to your mail program. If it chooses to show you the mail that way, >> don't blame me. > > - insisting on an "industry standard" mail style > >> > y:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;f

small font (was: Re: Creating PDF/A from LaTeX source and from existing PDF)

2024-07-03 Thread Max Nikulin
I am in doubts what is more rude: On 04/07/2024 04:02, Richard wrote: Please stop using such a dinky font. There are plenty of old farts trying to read this list. - writing this before an attempt to hijack the thread using an already discussed question, Tell that to your mail

Re: htmldoc default font size

2024-06-24 Thread Roger Price
On Sun, 23 Jun 2024, Dan Ritter wrote: Use this as a test file: testfile here is the base text run it through htmldoc without using a --fontsize option, open the resulting pdf and measure? I no longer have a working printer, but when I get access to one, I'll do some measurements. htmldo

Re: htmldoc default font size

2024-06-23 Thread eben
On 6/23/24 10:32, Roger Price wrote: I'm using htmldoc 1.9.11-4+deb11u3 to convert html files to pdf.  When playing with the fontsize option I discover that the default is not a whole number, more like 11.2 points. Hmm, maybe the author used something in mm? Weird. 4mm is 11.33 points. -- An

Re: htmldoc default font size

2024-06-23 Thread Dan Ritter
tps://www.msweet.org/htmldoc/htmldoc.html#3_2_23 > says “The --fontsize option specifies the base font size for the entire > document in points (1 point = 1/72nd inch)”, but doesn't say what the > default value is if the option is omitted. > > What is the default font size? Use th

htmldoc default font size

2024-06-23 Thread Roger Price
says “The --fontsize option specifies the base font size for the entire document in points (1 point = 1/72nd inch)”, but doesn't say what the default value is if the option is omitted. What is the default font size? Roger

Re: Zutty fonts - zutty always uses the same font and fontsize

2024-05-04 Thread Max Nikulin
On 02/05/2024 15:17, Richmond wrote: It understands the font names from xfontsel which is a major improvement on zutty. I have nothing against raster fonts for terminal applications, but I am surprised that support of X Logical Font Description may be considered as an improvement in

Re: Zutty fonts - zutty always uses the same font and fontsize

2024-05-02 Thread Richmond
Sirius writes: > Good old urxvt is quite lightweight compared to kitty. It understands the font names from xfontsel which is a major improvement on zutty. urxvt -bg black -fn -*-courier-*-r-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-* 8)

Re: Zutty fonts - zutty always uses the same font and fontsize

2024-05-01 Thread Sirius
In days of yore (Thu, 02 May 2024), Sirius thus quoth: > Tab-handling is one of the things that kitty does well that I > really like. But when it takes over ten times the memory for a single > instance compared to urxvt - I can forego the tab-handling and have > multiple windows instead. (Not look

Re: Zutty fonts - zutty always uses the same font and fontsize

2024-05-01 Thread Sirius
In days of yore (Wed, 01 May 2024), Karl Vogel thus quoth: > On Wed, May 01, 2024 at 08:32:31AM -0400, Sirius wrote: > > If Debian still packages it, look for rxvt instead, or use xterm. Both > > are well tried and well tested for when you want something.. dated. ;) > > I resemble that remark.

Re: Zutty fonts - zutty always uses the same font and fontsize

2024-05-01 Thread Max Nikulin
On 02/05/2024 10:11, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, May 02, 2024 at 09:34:13AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: On 01/05/2024 21:58, Sirius wrote: I was right about .Xresources that it is one of the files used for loading settings into the X server, but urxvt looks at .Xdefaults instead. It is a bit

Re: Zutty fonts - zutty always uses the same font and fontsize

2024-05-01 Thread Karl Vogel
On Wed, May 01, 2024 at 08:32:31AM -0400, Sirius wrote: > If Debian still packages it, look for rxvt instead, or use xterm. Both > are well tried and well tested for when you want something.. dated. ;) I resemble that remark. Xterm v390 was released on 19 Feb 2024, and building it from source

Re: Zutty fonts - zutty always uses the same font and fontsize

2024-05-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, May 02, 2024 at 09:34:13AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 01/05/2024 21:58, Sirius wrote: > > > > I was right about .Xresources that it is one of the files used for loading > > settings into the X server, but urxvt looks at .Xdefaults instead. > > It is a bit strange. Applications should

Re: Zutty fonts - zutty always uses the same font and fontsize

2024-05-01 Thread Max Nikulin
On 01/05/2024 21:58, Sirius wrote: I was right about .Xresources that it is one of the files used for loading settings into the X server, but urxvt looks at .Xdefaults instead. It is a bit strange. Applications should not read these files directly. Content should be loaded during X session st

Re: Zutty fonts - zutty always uses the same font and fontsize

2024-05-01 Thread Richmond
Sirius writes: > I can get it working with "zutty -font 12x24" and other numerically > named fonts. Wow that one actually worked. That's the first time I've seen a different font in zutty! > Trying with something like 'lucidasans-24' will make it

Re: Zutty fonts - zutty always uses the same font and fontsize

2024-05-01 Thread Sirius
In days of yore (Wed, 01 May 2024), Greg Wooledge thus quoth: > On Wed, May 01, 2024 at 02:31:49PM +0200, Sirius wrote: > > zutty is kind of only necessary when you want something *really* > > lightweight and you do not need to worry about UTF-8. Just writing this > > means a trip down memory lane

Re: Zutty fonts - zutty always uses the same font and fontsize

2024-05-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, May 01, 2024 at 02:31:49PM +0200, Sirius wrote: > zutty is kind of only necessary when you want something *really* > lightweight and you do not need to worry about UTF-8. Just writing this > means a trip down memory lane and back to configuring CTWM on old Sun 5 > workstations back in the 9

Re: Zutty fonts - zutty always uses the same font and fontsize

2024-05-01 Thread Sirius
In days of yore (Wed, 01 May 2024), Richmond thus quoth: > I am puzzled by the zutty terminal emulator. I have tried: > > 1186 zutty -fontpath /usr/share/fonts/X11/ -fontsize 20 > 1187 zutty -fontpath /usr/share/fonts/X11/ -font adobe > 1190 zutty -fontpath /usr/share

Zutty fonts - zutty always uses the same font and fontsize

2024-05-01 Thread Richmond
I am puzzled by the zutty terminal emulator. I have tried: 1186 zutty -fontpath /usr/share/fonts/X11/ -fontsize 20 1187 zutty -fontpath /usr/share/fonts/X11/ -font adobe 1190 zutty -fontpath /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/ -fontsize 20 1191 zutty -fontpath /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/ -fontsize

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-24 Thread Christoph K.
Hi Marco, thanks for taking the time to reply. Am Tue, 22 Aug 2023 20:24:39 +0200 schrieb Marco Möller : > Having had the same problem to solve for myself I ended up to use: > Noto sans for all my GUI > Liberation Mono for coding The "Noto Sans" has an almost identical

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-22 Thread Marco Möller
On 19.08.23 21:19, Christoph K. wrote: Could you please recommend a "suitable" sans-serif font that a) (...) b) (...) c) (...) d) (...) Thanks, Christoph Having had the same problem to solve for myself I ended up to use: Noto sans for all my GUI Liberation Mono

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-22 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 09:19:48PM +0200, Christoph K. wrote: Could you please recommend a "suitable" sans-serif font that A lot of your criteria are rather subjective. For packaged fonts you might look at "hack" (https://source-foundry.github.io/Hack/font-specimen.h

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-21 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On Mon Aug 21 16:23:25 2023 "Christoph K." wrote: > Am Sun, 20 Aug 2023 21:41:04 + > schrieb "Russell L. Harris" : > >> On the 3, 5, 6, and 9, open the end of the loops, and shorten the >> horizontal stroke on top of the 5 so the 5 is not mistaken for an S. >> Always put horizontal strokes o

Re: xterm font and other options

2023-08-21 Thread Max Nikulin
. ... # Don't override COLUMNS and LINES if already set; when my eyes are # tired, I use an xterm with characters two pixels larger: ## FONT=xft:Cascadia:pixelsize=22:bold LINES=35 xt : ${COLUMNS=80} : ${LINES=40} Thank you for clarification. Certainly it is aside from my use

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-21 Thread Richmond
scription for >> fonts-anonymous-pro specifically references both 0 v. O and I v. l v. >> 1: "Description-en: fixed width font designed for coders This package >> contains two Font Families. - Anonymous Pro - Anonomous Pro Minus . >> 'Anonymous Pro' is a fa

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-21 Thread Christoph K.
Am Sun, 20 Aug 2023 21:41:04 + schrieb "Russell L. Harris" : > On the 3, 5, 6, and 9, open the end of the loops, and shorten the > horizontal stroke on top of the 5 so the 5 is not mistaken for an S. > Always put horizontal strokes on I. Make the 1 with a flag on the > upper end and put a hor

Re: xterm font and other options

2023-08-21 Thread Karl Vogel
On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 10:38:34PM -0400, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 20/08/2023 14:55, Karl Vogel wrote: > > #!/bin/sh > ... > > # -fa 'xft:...' font size and weight > ... > > ( $XTERM $geo $topts -fa "$FONT" -title "Remote

xterm font and other options

2023-08-20 Thread Max Nikulin
On 20/08/2023 14:55, Karl Vogel wrote: #!/bin/sh ... # -fa 'xft:...' font size and weight ... ( $XTERM $geo $topts -fa "$FONT" -title "Remote" ) & Xterm configuration options may be put to ~/.Xresources, e.g. xterm*VT100.faceName: ...

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-20 Thread Tom Browder
On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 15:45 James H. H. Lampert wrote: > What Herr Rönnquist said. > And given that I actually *do* set type with some regularity, ... > (And for the record, my "go-to fonts" are all versions of Garamond.) Wow, another Garamond lover! I do, too, love it (and bought a copy of

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-20 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 10:14:20PM +0200, Christoph K. wrote: And I loathe fonts in which the numerals 3, 5, 6, and 9 are not radically different. Interesting point. Didn't pay much attention to these numerals, yet. Back in the 1970's, I ran across a detailed study of character shape with res

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-20 Thread Christoph K.
`liberation > mono regular' looks promising. I do admit that I wasn't specific enough in my first question. When I wrote "sans serif", I meant "a not serif font". Actually I wasn't looking for a monospace font either (but didn't state that explicitly). For now "IBM Plex" seems to do a good job. Thanks, Christoph

Re: REeLooking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-20 Thread James H. H. Lampert
Hmm. IBM Plex. Not bad-looking, and it does solve the stated problem. I will note that like Bistream Swiss Monospaced, it's only *nominally* sans-serif, in that it has slab-serifs (Stymie-style, rather than Clarendon-style) on the capital I, and one small slab-serif on the lowercase l. -- JH

Re: REeLooking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-20 Thread Christoph K.
> Have a look at: https://github.com/IBM/plex > it is very readable. > Rolf > Thank you, that's something I've been looking for. There's even a debian package ... apt-get install fonts-ibm-plex ... did do the job. Best regards, Christoph

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-20 Thread James H. H. Lampert
What Herr Rönnquist said. And given that I actually *do* set type with some regularity, I can say from experience that, with the exception of some monospaced examples that are only *nominally* sans-serif (e.g., Bitstream Swiss Monospaced), sans-serif fonts in which uppercase I and lowercase l

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-20 Thread Frank
Op 19-08-2023 om 21:19 schreef Christoph K.: I'm unsatisfied with the default sans font in debian for use in the graphical user interface (in my case XFCE). To be honest, I've long since forgotten what the default is. I've used Liberation Mono Regular everywhere in my Xfce DE

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-20 Thread Karl Vogel
On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 03:29:22PM -0400, Christoph K. wrote: > > I'm unsatisfied with the default sans font in debian for use in the > graphical user interface (in my case XFCE). I use BSD and Linux, and my eyesight sucks. For console work (23" monitor that's about 2 f

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-19 Thread Nate Bargmann
For a proportional font, Verdana, Regular seems to come close with, it seems to me, good differentiation between l, I, and 1. O and 0 are a bit problematic as 0 is not dotted or slashed but is more of an ellipse. On this GNOME desktop the interface is set to Cantarell, Regular, and while it has

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-19 Thread Tom Browder
On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 16:15 Russell L. Harris wrote: > bumper sticker: DYSLEXICS UNTIE! I concur on sans comments. You might take a look at the Free* fonts family (Debian packages “fonts-freefont-ttf” and “fonts-freefont-otf”). -Tom

REeLooking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-19 Thread Rolf Blum
Have a look at: https://github.com/IBM/plex it is very readable. Rolf

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-19 Thread Russell L. Harris
bumper sticker: DYSLEXICS UNTIE!

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-19 Thread debian-user
ally > references both 0 v. O and I v. l v. 1: > > "Description-en: fixed width font designed for coders > This package contains two Font Families. > - Anonymous Pro > - Anonomous Pro Minus > . > 'Anonymous Pro' is a family of four fixed-width fonts designed >

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-19 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 8/19/23, Andreas Rönnquist wrote: > On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 21:19:48 +0200, > Christoph K. wrote: >> >>I'm unsatisfied with the default sans font in debian for use in the >>graphical user interface (in my case XFCE). >> >>My main concern with the defa

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-19 Thread Russell L. Harris
I am a XFCE user with a similar taste in fonts, but I have no need for umlaut. I am concerned primarily with the distinction between numeral 1 and lower case L. And I loathe fonts in which the numerals 3, 5, 6, and 9 are not radically different. Back in the 1970's, I ran across a detailed st

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-19 Thread Andreas Rönnquist
On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 21:19:48 +0200, Christoph K. wrote: >Hi all, > >I'm unsatisfied with the default sans font in debian for use in the >graphical user interface (in my case XFCE). > >My main concern with the default sans font (I guess it's Bitsream Vera, >but tha

Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-19 Thread Christoph K.
Hi all, I'm unsatisfied with the default sans font in debian for use in the graphical user interface (in my case XFCE). My main concern with the default sans font (I guess it's Bitsream Vera, but that doesn't really matter) is the the small 'L' and the capital

Re: Thunderbird and font size used to display plain text e-mails?

2023-05-03 Thread Virgo Pärna
On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 14:26:12 -0600, D. R. Evans wrote: > I have TB configured so as to display incoming e-mail as plain text. They > display correctly, BUT the font used to display the contents in the third > pane > is too large on the new monitor. How *exactly* do I control the

Re: Thunderbird and font size used to display plain text e-mails?

2023-04-30 Thread Default User
gured so as to display incoming e-mail as plain text. > They > display correctly, BUT the font used to display the contents in the > third pane > is too large on the new monitor. How *exactly* do I contr

Thunderbird and font size used to display plain text e-mails?

2023-04-30 Thread D. R. Evans
third pane, below the second one, is where the contents of e-mails are displayed. I have TB configured so as to display incoming e-mail as plain text. They display correctly, BUT the font used to display the contents in the third pane is too large on the new monitor. How *exactly* do I control

X server crashes when changing font size in LibreOffice / 'Failed to compile FS'

2023-02-12 Thread Stefan Pietsch
Dear list, when enlarging text in LibreOffice Writer (e.g. 96pt) so that the characters fill the screen, the X server reproducibly crashes. I'm running Debian sid with the package xorg-server 21.1.7-1. Hardware is a ThinkPad T410 with integrated Intel graphics. Xorg.0.log: ### [ 3

Re: System Font

2022-11-02 Thread Curt
On 2022-11-02, David Wright wrote: > > Perhaps try https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1239467 > though I don't understand their "Don't choose a value below 1.0 or > about [is that above?] 4.0", because the value I have is -1.5 > (ie negative, and I didn't choose it). My understanding is

Re: System Font

2022-11-01 Thread David Wright
On Tue 01 Nov 2022 at 15:53:56 (-0400), pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > Folks: > > Typically, I use i3wm, but I just got through sampling Plasma. Somehow > it has reduced/changed what I guess I'd call my "system font". This > shows up in Firefox menus, Claws-Mail me

System Font

2022-11-01 Thread paulf
Folks: Typically, I use i3wm, but I just got through sampling Plasma. Somehow it has reduced/changed what I guess I'd call my "system font". This shows up in Firefox menus, Claws-Mail menus and others. I don't really care about the font, but the size must be increased.

Re: alpine font size

2022-02-03 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Wed, 2 Feb 2022, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: hi, I'm looking for a way to increase the font size in alpine (Debian buster). I was unable to find an answer with google... I found the answer: just add "-fn 10x20" to the xterm call best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel

Re: font-colour on a bullseye desktop: (too) white

2021-08-19 Thread Greg Wooledge
t%20color I got these results as my first two: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/233483/change-xfce-desktop-font-color https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=6553

font-colour on a bullseye desktop: (too) white

2021-08-19 Thread steef van duin
i am sorry. it is a long time i was mailing to this list for help OK. Now we know which terminal you use, and this*probably* also means you're running XFCE as your desktop environment. That will be useful information for the thread back on the mailing list. yes, that is right i am using xfc

Re: font-colour on desktop

2021-08-19 Thread Greg Wooledge
scribe what you want to do. I'm wondering, actually, what you mean by "fonts on the desktop". Most of the time, when people talk of fonts, they actually mean fonts within a terminal emulator or a web browser, since that's where they see the most text. It's hard for me t

font-colour on desktop

2021-08-19 Thread steef van duin
hi folks a small problem for me in using bullseye: how can I change the colours of the fonts on the desktop?? (if possible) thanks a lot cheers, steef groningen

Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-07-02 Thread Richmond
Siard writes: > On Thu, 1 Jul 2021 22:37 -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: >> On 6/22/21 9:23 AM, Siard wrote: >> > In the MATE Terminal settings (Edit > Profile Preferences), >> > tab 'Colors', under 'Palette', set 'Built-in schemes' to 'Custom' >> > and change every color in the color palette to black

Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-07-02 Thread Siard
On Thu, 1 Jul 2021 22:37 -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: > On 6/22/21 9:23 AM, Siard wrote: > > In the MATE Terminal settings (Edit > Profile Preferences), > > tab 'Colors', under 'Palette', set 'Built-in schemes' to 'Custom' > > and change every color in the color palette to black. > > > > Here is a sc

Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-07-01 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 6/22/21 9:23 AM, Siard wrote: On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 17:32:55, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 22 iun 21, 08:14:08, Richard Owlett wrote: I have vision problems. I *MUST* have black on white text in all cases. The program I'm running gives out colored text. The MATE Help screen is NOT helpful. H

Re: how to change terminal (tty) font?

2021-06-29 Thread Curt
On 2021-06-28, Long Wind wrote: > > i rather put up with ugly font than imperfect fixanyway Thanks to all that > reply! > For me it's unequivocally the contrary. But then I'm not a perfectionist about picayune things and would rather see the entire picture a little fau

Re: how to change terminal (tty) font?

2021-06-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 28 June 2021 11:46:00 Curt wrote: > On 2021-06-28, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> The workaround at the bottom of the thread is to create a service > >> file that systematically deletes the cache at shutdown. > > > > That sucks unless its a gracefull shutdown, power failures don't > > leave t

Re: how to change terminal (tty) font?

2021-06-28 Thread Curt
On 2021-06-28, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> The workaround at the bottom of the thread is to create a service file >> that systematically deletes the cache at shutdown. > > That sucks unless its a gracefull shutdown, power failures don't leave > time to do that, so why not clean the cache early in t

Re: how to change terminal (tty) font?

2021-06-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 28 June 2021 08:19:37 Curt wrote: > On 2021-06-28, Brian wrote: > > On Mon 28 Jun 2021 at 11:20:12 -, Curt wrote: > >> On 2021-06-28, Long Wind wrote: > >> > Thank IL Ka and Cater!i've run console-setup, > >> > but it's n

Re: how to change terminal (tty) font?

2021-06-28 Thread Curt
On 2021-06-28, Brian wrote: > On Mon 28 Jun 2021 at 11:20:12 -, Curt wrote: > >> On 2021-06-28, Long Wind wrote: >> > >> > >> > Thank IL Ka and Cater!i've run console-setup, >> > but it's not persistent, after reboot, it uses ugl

Re: how to change terminal (tty) font?

2021-06-28 Thread Brian
On Mon 28 Jun 2021 at 11:20:12 -, Curt wrote: > On 2021-06-28, Long Wind wrote: > > > > > > Thank IL Ka and Cater!i've run console-setup, > > but it's not persistent, after reboot, it uses ugly font again > > PS: i reply a little late, becaus

Re: how to change terminal (tty) font?

2021-06-28 Thread Curt
On 2021-06-28, Long Wind wrote: > > > Thank IL Ka and Cater!i've run console-setup, > but it's not persistent, after reboot, it uses ugly font again > PS: i reply a little late, because yahoo is partially blocked > Looks like this four-year-old bug: htt

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