Re: firewall (fwd)

2000-10-02 Thread Matthew Sackman
On Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 11:51:50AM -0700, George Bonser wrote: > > This isn't necessarily the case. It certainly appears to vary by > > region. They don't do it here (Denver, Colorado). Perhaps this is > > because DSL is so easily available :} > > One interesting thing that many providers are d

Re: firewall (fwd)

2000-10-01 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 01:25:39PM -0400, Allan M. Wind wrote: > MediaOne (now AT&T) probes for open relays on port 25 frequently. In Silicon Valley, [EMAIL PROTECTED] cable poke NNTP port from 2 servers Their hostname was like authorized-scan.athome.net or something. (I got linuxconf, h

Re: flamewar ;-? (Re: firewall (fwd))

2000-10-01 Thread George Bonser
> And I switched to the MAPS anti-spam lists after I found out that they > were blocking entire networks who were blocking the very aggressive ORBS > relay tester ie above.net, who hosts a very important mailing list called > BugTraq, and a company called RoadRunner, who is becoming of one of the >

Re: firewall (fwd)

2000-10-01 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya phil... thats assuming that the guy with the open relay is able to fix it...cause mediaone told um they had an open relay... oh well...have fun linuxing.. alvin On Sun, 1 Oct 2000, Phil Brutsche wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > A long time ago, in a galaxy

Re: flamewar ;-? (Re: firewall (fwd))

2000-10-01 Thread Phil Brutsche
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... > On Mon, 02 Oct 2000 00:17:08 +0200 > Robert Waldner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Actually, I don´t think Alan[0] is braindead. He does a quite good job, > > he just hasn´t his scripts

Re: firewall (fwd)

2000-10-01 Thread Phil Brutsche
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... > > > > - only two reasons ??? > > a. they want to add that open relay box for more advertising to be > > sent thru it... > > b. they want to tell the customer to close the open relay ?

Re: flamewar ;-? (Re: firewall (fwd))

2000-10-01 Thread Pollywog
On Mon, 02 Oct 2000 00:17:08 +0200 Robert Waldner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, I don´t think Alan[0] is braindead. He does a quite good job, > he just hasn´t his scripts under control[1], sometimes... > Always remember, you don´t _have_ to use ORBS, although it´s cutting > spam about 6

Re: firewall (fwd)

2000-10-01 Thread Phil Brutsche
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... > > hi ya pollywog > > if the ISP did accidentally scan your box with their new linux box... > which linux distro is installed that way where it comes up in a mode > that scans everything ar

Re: firewall (fwd)

2000-10-01 Thread Phil Brutsche
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... > whats the point for mediaone to scan for open relays ?? > > - only two reasons ??? > a. they want to add that open relay box for more advertising to be > sent thru it... > b. they wan

flamewar ;-? (Re: firewall (fwd))

2000-10-01 Thread Robert Waldner
On Sun, 01 Oct 2000 14:40:02 PDT, George Bonser writes: > c. intimidated by the brain-dead idiots at ORBS Actually, I don´t think Alan[0] is braindead. He does a quite good job, he just hasn´t his scripts under control[1], sometimes... Always remember, you don´t _have_ to use ORBS, although i

Re: firewall (fwd)

2000-10-01 Thread George Bonser
> > - only two reasons ??? > a. they want to add that open relay box for more advertising to be > sent thru it... > b. they want to tell the customer to close the open relay ?? One more ... c. intimidated by the brain-dead idiots at ORBS

Re: firewall (fwd)

2000-10-01 Thread Alvin Oga
hi y pollywog.. yeah...now that makes sensethat someone added something to the linux box.. good... have fun linuxing alvin On Sun, 1 Oct 2000, Pollywog wrote: > On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 14:24:21 -0700 (PDT) > Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > hi ya pollywog > > > > if the ISP di

Re: firewall (fwd)

2000-10-01 Thread Pollywog
On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 14:26:45 -0700 (PDT) > whats the point for mediaone to scan for open relays ?? > > - only two reasons ??? > a. they want to add that open relay box for more advertising to be > sent thru it... > b. they want to tell the customer to close the open relay ?? Or they are tir

Re: firewall (fwd)

2000-10-01 Thread Pollywog
On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 14:24:21 -0700 (PDT) Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hi ya pollywog > > if the ISP did accidentally scan your box with their new linux box... > which linux distro is installed that way where it comes up in a mode > that scans everything around it ??? ( a startrek bor

Re: firewall (fwd)

2000-10-01 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya allan... whats the point for mediaone to scan for open relays ?? - only two reasons ??? a. they want to add that open relay box for more advertising to be sent thru it... b. they want to tell the customer to close the open relay ?? just more rambling on a sunday afternoon... thanx

Re: firewall (fwd)

2000-10-01 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya pollywog if the ISP did accidentally scan your box with their new linux box... which linux distro is installed that way where it comes up in a mode that scans everything around it ??? ( a startrek borg-based linux ?? ) wonder which distro they used... ... if they can say that "it would no

Re: firewall (fwd)

2000-10-01 Thread George Bonser
> This isn't necessarily the case. It certainly appears to vary by > region. They don't do it here (Denver, Colorado). Perhaps this is > because DSL is so easily available :} One interesting thing that many providers are doing is not allowing any VPN traffic. If you want to "telecommute" and wo

Re: firewall (fwd)

2000-10-01 Thread William T Wilson
On Sun, 1 Oct 2000, Mike Leone wrote: > @home, the largest cable ISP in the US, *routinely* scans their > customers, aggressively checking that no one is breaking their service > agreement by running a server OF ANY KIND. This isn't necessarily the case. It certainly appears to vary by region.

Re: firewall (fwd)

2000-10-01 Thread George Bonser
> My cable provider has a "no servers" policy for their standard accounts > (if you want to run servers, you need to pay more). To enforce this, > they seem to scan their new customers. The first few weeks after I > signed up, they scanned me daily. It has stopped now, so I guess I'll be > able to

Re: firewall (fwd)

2000-10-01 Thread Allan M. Wind
On 2000-10-01 16:47:26, Pollywog wrote: > > OH? Why would my cable modem provider scan my box? What would > > they be looking for? > > My ISP scanned my box once, and I asked them about it and they told > me it was an accident, done by a new Linux box they had just set up > because they were co

Re: firewall (fwd)

2000-10-01 Thread mario
William Jensen wrote: > OH? Why would my cable modem provider scan my box? What would they be > looking > for? > > Even though I didn't ask the question, thanks for the info Mario! My cable provider has a "no servers" policy for their standard accounts (if you want to run servers, you need to

Re: firewall (fwd)

2000-10-01 Thread Mike Leone
>> OH? Why would my cable modem provider scan my box? What would they be >> looking >> for? > >My ISP scanned my box once, and I asked them about it and they told me it was >an accident, done by a new Linux box they had just set up because they were >considering switching to Linux. They told

Re: firewall (fwd)

2000-10-01 Thread Pollywog
On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 11:40:16 -0500 William Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OH? Why would my cable modem provider scan my box? What would they be > looking > for? My ISP scanned my box once, and I asked them about it and they told me it was an accident, done by a new Linux box they had j

Re: firewall (fwd)

2000-10-01 Thread William Jensen
On Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 03:50:04PM +0200, mario wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Has anyone found making a debian machine with firewall support useful? > > Yes, very much so > > > What are firewalls useful for? Do they simply prevent packets from passing > > through the firewall into th

Re: firewall (fwd)

2000-10-01 Thread mario
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Has anyone found making a debian machine with firewall support useful? Yes, very much so > What are firewalls useful for? Do they simply prevent packets from passing > through the firewall into the rest of the network? It depends. "Firewall" can mean different thing

firewall (fwd)

2000-10-01 Thread debian-isp
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 21:28:47 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: firewall Hello All, Has anyone found making a debian machine with firewall support useful? What are firewalls useful for? Do they simply prevent packets from

Re: dselect ftp from behind a firewall (fwd)

1997-01-17 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
[apologies if this is the second time you've seen this. I had a sendmail problem.] Thanks to all the people who replied on the list and by mail. Unfortunately the problem is that this particular firewall (ANS Interlock) requires you to login to the firewall first and then access the ftp site. L