Re: Where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in?

2025-07-18 Thread Greg
On 2025-07-11, Nicolas George wrote: > hw (HE12025-07-11): >> (S)FTP is still in use like for cameras, scanners (printers) and phones. > > Do you have a few examples of brand and models of cameras and phones > that use FTP? Some high-end cameras use it. Phones, not so much.

Re: a bug on moving files with "Files" in Gnome environment

2025-07-11 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 11:54 AM Andrew Makhorin wrote: > > > Sorry, I meant how long do you let the system keep chugging along after > > it appears to hang? > > > > The system itself remains working. The "Files" window gets dark and doesnt > response, and

Re: a bug on moving files with "Files" in Gnome environment

2025-07-11 Thread Dan Purgert
On Jul 11, 2025, Dan Ritter wrote: > Dan Purgert wrote: > > On Jul 11, 2025, Nicolas George wrote: > > > Greg (HE12025-07-11): > > > > Does that mean to a different filesystem on the same disk it's a move > > > > rather > > > > than a copy? > > > > > > The fact that it is on the same disk is not

Re: a bug on moving files with "Files" in Gnome environment

2025-07-11 Thread John Dow
> On 11 Jul 2025, at 16:45, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Dan Purgert wrote: >>> On Jul 11, 2025, Nicolas George wrote: >>> Greg (HE12025-07-11): Does that mean to a different filesystem on the same disk it's a move rather than a copy? >>> >>> The fact that it is on the same disk is n

Re: a bug on moving files with "Files" in Gnome environment

2025-07-11 Thread Dan Ritter
Dan Purgert wrote: > On Jul 11, 2025, Nicolas George wrote: > > Greg (HE12025-07-11): > > > Does that mean to a different filesystem on the same disk it's a move > > > rather > > > than a copy? > > > > The fact that it is on the same disk is not relevant. Apart from that, I > > suggest you re-re

Re: a bug on moving files with "Files" in Gnome environment

2025-07-11 Thread Dan Purgert
On Jul 11, 2025, Nicolas George wrote: > Greg (HE12025-07-11): > > Does that mean to a different filesystem on the same disk it's a move rather > > than a copy? > > The fact that it is on the same disk is not relevant. Apart from that, I > suggest you re-read Dan's mail more carefully, everything

Re: a bug on moving files with "Files" in Gnome environment

2025-07-11 Thread Nicolas George
Greg (HE12025-07-11): > Does that mean to a different filesystem on the same disk it's a move rather > than a copy? The fact that it is on the same disk is not relevant. Apart from that, I suggest you re-read Dan's mail more carefully, everything was in it. -- Nicolas George

Re: a bug on moving files with "Files" in Gnome environment

2025-07-11 Thread Dan Ritter
Greg wrote: > On 2025-07-11, Nicolas George wrote: > > Greg (HE12025-07-11): > >> On 2025-07-11, Dan Ritter wrote: > >> > > >> > If the target location is on a different filesystem, a "move" is > >> > a full copy followed by a delete of the source. > >> Is that true? > > > > Yes, absoltely. > >

Re: a bug on moving files with "Files" in Gnome environment

2025-07-11 Thread Greg
On 2025-07-11, Nicolas George wrote: > Greg (HE12025-07-11): >> On 2025-07-11, Dan Ritter wrote: >> > >> > If the target location is on a different filesystem, a "move" is >> > a full copy followed by a delete of the source. >> Is that true? > > Yes, absoltely. > >> If the source is deleted as pa

Re: a bug on moving files with "Files" in Gnome environment

2025-07-11 Thread Nicolas George
Greg (HE12025-07-11): > On 2025-07-11, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > If the target location is on a different filesystem, a "move" is > > a full copy followed by a delete of the source. > Is that true? Yes, absoltely. > If the source is deleted as part of the process it's no longer a "copy." Indeed

Re: a bug on moving files with "Files" in Gnome environment

2025-07-11 Thread Greg
On 2025-07-11, Dan Ritter wrote: > > If the target location is on a different filesystem, a "move" is > a full copy followed by a delete of the source. Is that true? If the source is deleted as part of the process it's no longer a "copy."

Re: a bug on moving files with "Files" in Gnome environment

2025-07-11 Thread Dan Purgert
On Jul 11, 2025, mick.crane wrote: > On 2025-07-11 10:52, Andrew Makhorin wrote: > > > > > > On Jul 11, 2025, Andrew Makhorin wrote: > > > > I encountered a serious bug on moving files from one folder to > > > > another with standard "Files"

Re: a bug on moving files with "Files" in Gnome environment

2025-07-11 Thread mick.crane
On 2025-07-11 14:03, Andrew Makhorin wrote: Sorry, I meant how long do you let the system keep chugging along after it appears to hang? The system itself remains working. The "Files" window gets dark and doesnt  response, and it's impossible to close it. When moving fi

Re: Where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in?

2025-07-11 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu Jul 10, 2025 at 5:48 PM BST, hw wrote: The Debian package doesn't seem to be managed well. It even still uses an init.d script instead of a service file. Agreed. The last two versions of it were non-maintainer uploads; the last of those was 18 months ago; the last actual maintainer upl

Re: a bug on moving files with "Files" in Gnome environment

2025-07-11 Thread Andrew Makhorin
> Sorry, I meant how long do you let the system keep chugging along after > it appears to hang? > The system itself remains working. The "Files" window gets dark and doesnt  response, and it's impossible to close it. > When moving files on the same disk impression

Re: a bug on moving files with "Files" in Gnome environment

2025-07-11 Thread Dan Ritter
mick.crane wrote: > > When moving files on the same disk impression is, at least with dragging in > the desktop file manager, it seems instant. Whereas to another disk seems to > make new files. I guess that when on the same disk the OS changes only > something about the f

Re: a bug on moving files with "Files" in Gnome environment

2025-07-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 13:39:44 +0100, mick.crane wrote: > When moving files on the same disk impression is, at least with dragging in > the desktop file manager, it seems instant. Whereas to another disk seems to > make new files. I guess that when on the same disk the OS cha

Re: a bug on moving files with "Files" in Gnome environment

2025-07-11 Thread mick.crane
On 2025-07-11 10:52, Andrew Makhorin wrote: On Jul 11, 2025, Andrew Makhorin wrote: > I encountered a serious bug on moving files from one folder to another > with standard "Files" application in Gnome. Namely, when the number of > files in the distination folder is abou

Re: Where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in?

2025-07-11 Thread Nicolas George
hw (HE12025-07-11): > (S)FTP is still in use like for cameras, scanners (printers) and phones. Do you have a few examples of brand and models of cameras and phones that use FTP? -- Nicolas George

Re: Where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in?

2025-07-11 Thread Dan Purgert
On Jul 11, 2025, hw wrote: > On Thu, 2025-07-10 at 13:55 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > [...] > > Nowadays it seems like scp and sftp are the norm, not ftp. > > (S)FTP is still in use like for cameras, scanners (printers) and phones. > For local usages I don't want to do all the hassle the certi

Re: Where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in?

2025-07-11 Thread hw
On Thu, 2025-07-10 at 13:55 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 1:39 PM Charles Curley > wrote: > > > > On Thu, 10 Jul 2025 18:58:03 +0200 > > hw wrote: > > > > > When running it on Debian, filezilla shows a password request for > > > anonymous logins, and the login fails. T

Re: Where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in?

2025-07-11 Thread hw
On Thu, 2025-07-10 at 19:09 +0200, john doe wrote: > On 7/10/25 18:58, hw wrote: > > On Thu, 2025-07-10 at 16:28 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > On Thu Jul 10, 2025 at 11:45 AM BST, hw wrote: > > > > > > > > Right. Anonymous logins are allowed and I have created a system account > > > > 'ftp

Re: a bug on moving files with "Files" in Gnome environment

2025-07-11 Thread Dan Purgert
On Jul 11, 2025, Andrew Makhorin wrote: > > > > On Jul 11, 2025, Andrew Makhorin wrote: > > > I encountered a serious bug on moving files from one folder to another > > > with standard "Files" application in Gnome. Namely, when the > > > number

Re: a bug on moving files with "Files" in Gnome environment

2025-07-11 Thread Andrew Makhorin
> > On Jul 11, 2025, Andrew Makhorin wrote: > > I encountered a serious bug on moving files from one folder to another > > with standard "Files" application in Gnome. Namely, when the number of > > files in the distination folder is about 4,500, the "Files&

Re: a bug on moving files with "Files" in Gnome environment

2025-07-10 Thread Dan Purgert
On Jul 11, 2025, Andrew Makhorin wrote: > I encountered a serious bug on moving files from one folder to another > with standard "Files" application in Gnome. Namely, when the number of > files in the distination folder is about 4,500, the "Files" application >

a bug on moving files with "Files" in Gnome environment

2025-07-10 Thread Andrew Makhorin
I encountered a serious bug on moving files from one folder to another with standard "Files" application in Gnome. Namely, when the number of files in the distination folder is about 4,500, the "Files" application deadly hangs, and only restaring the system helps. The

Re: Where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in?

2025-07-10 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 1:39 PM Charles Curley wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Jul 2025 18:58:03 +0200 > hw wrote: > > > When running it on Debian, filezilla shows a password request for > > anonymous logins, and the login fails. This is not what the man page > > says. The ftp user doesn't have a passwor

Re: Where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in?

2025-07-10 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 10 Jul 2025 18:58:03 +0200 hw wrote: > When running it on Debian, filezilla shows a password request for > anonymous logins, and the login fails. This is not what the man page > says. The ftp user doesn't have a password anyway. Apparently, > Debians pure-ftpd version doesn't understan

Re: Where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in?

2025-07-10 Thread john doe
On 7/10/25 18:58, hw wrote: On Thu, 2025-07-10 at 16:28 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Thu Jul 10, 2025 at 11:45 AM BST, hw wrote: Right. Anonymous logins are allowed and I have created a system account 'ftp', and it still doesn't work. It keeps asking for a password when trying to log in

Re: Where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in?

2025-07-10 Thread hw
On Thu, 2025-07-10 at 16:28 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu Jul 10, 2025 at 11:45 AM BST, hw wrote: > > > > Right. Anonymous logins are allowed and I have created a system account > > 'ftp', and it still doesn't work. It keeps asking for a password when > > trying to log in as 'anonymous'

Re: Where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in?

2025-07-10 Thread hw
On Thu, 2025-07-10 at 16:46 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu Jul 10, 2025 at 3:25 PM BST, hw wrote: > > So am I to assume that it's broken on Debian > > The problem could be the presence of /etc/pure-ftpd/conf/NoAnonymous, > which causes the start-up wrapper to pass -E (= --noanonymous) t

Re: Where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in?

2025-07-10 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu Jul 10, 2025 at 3:25 PM BST, hw wrote: So am I to assume that it's broken on Debian The problem could be the presence of /etc/pure-ftpd/conf/NoAnonymous, which causes the start-up wrapper to pass -E (= --noanonymous) to the daemon. Try removing that file and restarting the daemon. I

Re: Where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in?

2025-07-10 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu Jul 10, 2025 at 11:45 AM BST, hw wrote: Right. Anonymous logins are allowed and I have created a system account 'ftp', and it still doesn't work. It keeps asking for a password when trying to log in as 'anonymous' or 'ftp'. Conventionally, when logging into an anonymous ftp server, as

Re: Where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in?

2025-07-10 Thread hw
On Thu, 2025-07-10 at 13:52 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 01:41:51PM +0200, hw wrote: > > On Thu, 2025-07-10 at 12:55 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [...] > > > > I'd have a look at /var/log/auth.log, or however this is spelt in > > > systemd-ese these days. > > >

Re: Where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in?

2025-07-10 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 01:41:51PM +0200, hw wrote: > On Thu, 2025-07-10 at 12:55 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > I'd have a look at /var/log/auth.log, or however this is spelt in > > systemd-ese these days. > > The log says nothing new: > > > [...] pure-ftpd: pam_unix(pure-ftpd:auth)

Re: Where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in?

2025-07-10 Thread hw
On Thu, 2025-07-10 at 12:55 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 12:45:22PM +0200, hw wrote: > > > > Right. Anonymous logins are allowed and I have created a system account > > 'ftp', and it still doesn't work. It keeps asking for a password when > > trying to log in as 'anony

Re: Where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in?

2025-07-10 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 12:45:22PM +0200, hw wrote: > > Right. Anonymous logins are allowed and I have created a system account > 'ftp', and it still doesn't work. It keeps asking for a password when > trying to log in as 'anonymous' or 'ftp'. > > I have the same on Fedora, and there it does not

Re: Where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in?

2025-07-10 Thread hw
09 at 20:19 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 09, 2025 at 23:08:05 +0200, hw wrote: > > > > where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in? > > > > > > > > Even its man page is missing in Debian. > > > > > > Accord

Re: pure-ftpd: anonymous users can't log in (Re: Where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in?)

2025-07-10 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 5:49 AM hw wrote: > > So I have created the ftp user with a home directory to use for files > from the anonymous user. But still pure-ftpd is, contrary to the man > page, asking for a password and the login fails. > > Why is this not working? You prob

Re: pure-ftpd: anonymous users can't log in (Re: Where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in?)

2025-07-10 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu Jul 10, 2025 at 7:41 AM BST, hw wrote: And why is is so difficult and troublesome on Debian? Possibly because running an anonymous ftpd in 2025 is quite a niche interest. Some of the other recent replies look to point in the right direction. Last time I did this myself, I used vsftpd, a

Re: Where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in?

2025-07-10 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 4:49 AM hw wrote: > > On Wed, 2025-07-09 at 20:19 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 09, 2025 at 23:08:05 +0200, hw wrote: > > > where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in? > > > > > > Even its man page is

pure-ftpd: anonymous users can't log in (Re: Where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in?)

2025-07-09 Thread hw
So I have created the ftp user with a home directory to use for files from the anonymous user. But still pure-ftpd is, contrary to the man page, asking for a password and the login fails. Why is this not working? And why is is so difficult and troublesome on Debian? It wasn't an issue a

Re: Where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in?

2025-07-09 Thread hw
On Wed, 2025-07-09 at 20:19 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Jul 09, 2025 at 23:08:05 +0200, hw wrote: > > where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in? > > > > Even its man page is missing in Debian. > > According to packages.debian.org, the package &

Re: Where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in?

2025-07-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jul 09, 2025 at 23:08:05 +0200, hw wrote: > where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in? > > Even its man page is missing in Debian. According to packages.debian.org, the package "pure-ftpd" depends on the package "pure-ftpd-common", and the

Where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in?

2025-07-09 Thread hw
Hi, where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in? Even its man page is missing in Debian. Are we supposed to create an ftp user having a home directory to store such files in, or what's the Debian way of specifying the directory for the files?

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old Debian files, of possible interest to Debian archivists/historians, others

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Re: VSFTPD fails to upload files

2025-04-11 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
ssion on the > FTP > > Group. > > drwxrwxr-x 2 root ftp 4096 Apr 11 17:53 ftp > > drwxrwxr-x 2 root root 40 Apr 11 18:19 empty > > > > Does anyone have any ideas why VSFTPD can not receive uploads. I am able > to > > successfully download files. > > Ca

Re: VSFTPD fails to upload files

2025-04-11 Thread Fred
download files. Thanks Tim -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/ <https://www.debian.org/> ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀ Hi, There is a config file for vsftp. /etc/vsftpd.conf As I recall you have to enable something in the config file. Best regards, Fred

VSFTPD fails to upload files

2025-04-11 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
the directories have write permission on the FTP Group. drwxrwxr-x 2 root ftp 4096 Apr 11 17:53 ftp drwxrwxr-x 2 root root 40 Apr 11 18:19 empty Does anyone have any ideas why VSFTPD can not receive uploads. I am able to successfully download files. Thanks Tim -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian

Re: Why installed files of my package doen't show with apt-file

2025-03-13 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 10:56:47AM +, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 11:45:32 +0100 > wrote: > > Hello to...@tuxteam.de, > > >I thought that too, but according to the man page, apt-get update does > {snipped} > > Okay, fair enough. I'm new to apt-file so haven't fully absorbed al

Re: Why installed files of my package doen't show with apt-file

2025-03-13 Thread Greg
On 2025-03-13, wrote: > > You don't need apt-file update anymore. Apt update or apt-get update do > the trick. (Apt-file update won't hurt, though). Maybe you could fix the wiki in this case. https://wiki.debian.org/apt-file

Re: Why installed files of my package doen't show with apt-file

2025-03-13 Thread tomas
-meaning cron job, but that seems > > to be the secret :-) > > apt-get update only updates the package lists from the repositories > configured in /etc/apt/sources.list. > > apt-file update fetches the latest file index for all packages. > > IOW, you should run apt-get

Re: Why installed files of my package doen't show with apt-file

2025-03-13 Thread Greg
nly updates the package lists from the repositories configured in /etc/apt/sources.list. apt-file update fetches the latest file index for all packages. IOW, you should run apt-get update (packages) before apt-file update (the files inside those packages).

Re: Why installed files of my package doen't show with apt-file

2025-03-13 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 11:45:32 +0100 wrote: Hello to...@tuxteam.de, >I thought that too, but according to the man page, apt-get update does {snipped} Okay, fair enough. I'm new to apt-file so haven't fully absorbed all required knowledge yet. >Hanlon's Corollary: it's almost never the gremlins

Re: Why installed files of my package doen't show with apt-file

2025-03-13 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 09:19:12AM +, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 10:59:49 +0200 > Henrik Ahlgren wrote: > > Hello Henrik, > > >> Why when I run `apt-file show phoenix` nothing happens? > >Just to confirm, you ran `apt-get update` before that, correct? > > apt-*file* update

Re: Why installed files of my package doen't show with apt-file

2025-03-13 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 10:59:49 +0200 Henrik Ahlgren wrote: Hello Henrik, >> Why when I run `apt-file show phoenix` nothing happens? >Just to confirm, you ran `apt-get update` before that, correct? apt-*file* update (emphasis is mine), surely? -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {das

Re: Why installed files of my package doen't show with apt-file

2025-03-13 Thread Henrik Ahlgren
Modaresi Soft Hard writes: > I added our Repo to sources.list.d/ > > Why when I run `apt-file show phoenix` nothing happens? Just to confirm, you ran `apt-get update` before that, correct?

Re: Why installed files of my package doen't show with apt-file

2025-03-12 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 02:13:05AM +, Modaresi Soft Hard wrote: > We created several packages in > https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/home:celenity (OBS) Apt-file relies on the Contents file, which your repository must provide (possibly you have to tell your instance of apt-file where

Why installed files of my package doen't show with apt-file

2025-03-12 Thread Modaresi Soft Hard
We created several packages in https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/home:celenity (OBS) I added our Repo to sources.list.d/ Why when I run `apt-file show phoenix` nothing happens? What should I observe in the packaging? You can download deb files and the files we use to create a deb

Re: Modernizing apt sources files

2025-02-08 Thread Joe
ed sources.list, and it's not often I've needed to do that. Synaptic actually uses apt tools to install and update, and they will use either sources.list or the sources.list.d files, whichever is there. It's only if you need, for some reason, to manipulate repositories that ther

Re: Modernizing apt sources files

2025-02-08 Thread Greg
On 2025-02-08, Michael Stone wrote: > On Sat, Feb 08, 2025 at 02:25:51PM -, Greg wrote: >>On 2025-02-06, Charles Curley wrote: >>> >>> I suspect we'll be living with mixed .list and .sources files as >>> suppliers upgrade what they ship. >> &

Re: Modernizing apt sources files

2025-02-08 Thread Greg
On 2025-02-08, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Feb 08, 2025 at 14:25:51 -, Greg wrote: >> I haven't been following the long thread about the modernization of apt >> sources. >> >> I'm running Bookworm. Is it recommended to modernize, or is the modern >> method intended for some future date? As

Re: Modernizing apt sources files

2025-02-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Feb 08, 2025 at 14:25:51 -, Greg wrote: > I haven't been following the long thread about the modernization of apt > sources. > > I'm running Bookworm. Is it recommended to modernize, or is the modern > method intended for some future date? As everything works nicely on this > new insta

Re: Modernizing apt sources files

2025-02-08 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Feb 08, 2025 at 02:25:51PM -, Greg wrote: On 2025-02-06, Charles Curley wrote: I suspect we'll be living with mixed .list and .sources files as suppliers upgrade what they ship. I haven't been following the long thread about the modernization of apt sources. I

Re: Modernizing apt sources files

2025-02-08 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 8 Feb 2025 14:25:51 - (UTC) Greg wrote: > On 2025-02-06, Charles Curley wrote: > > > > I suspect we'll be living with mixed .list and .sources files as > > suppliers upgrade what they ship. > > I haven't been following the long thread abo

Re: Modernizing apt sources files

2025-02-08 Thread Greg
On 2025-02-06, Charles Curley wrote: > > I suspect we'll be living with mixed .list and .sources files as > suppliers upgrade what they ship. I haven't been following the long thread about the modernization of apt sources. I'm running Bookworm. Is it recommended to mod

Modernizing apt sources files

2025-02-06 Thread Charles Curley
With the previous discussion on modernizing one's apt sources files, I went ahead and did it on two of my trixie installations. The two original sources files were preserved, which might be useful for some oddball installations. Note that sources.list, which resides in /etc/apt, is replac

Re: binary files /usr/bin/[ and /usr/bin/test differ

2024-11-18 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 11/18/24 à 11:50, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : Help yourseof :) https://sources.debian.org/src/coreutils/ (Of course, apt-get source coreutils would do the same). Cheers Thank you tomas, After a second reading of https://sources.debian.org/src/coreutils/9.5-1/src/test.c/, it seems tha

binary files /usr/bin/[ and /usr/bin/test differ

2024-11-18 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Dear debian and linux enthusiasts, Have you ever stopped and wondered: Are `/usr/bin/[` and `/usr/bin/test` truly unique across all unices? # diff /usr/bin/\[ /usr/bin/test Binary files /usr/bin/[ and /usr/bin/test differ # ls /usr/bin/\[ -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 67K Sep 20 2022 '/us

Re: binary files /usr/bin/[ and /usr/bin/test differ

2024-11-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
x27;m not brilliant at all. > > But I'm eager to see if Greg has something to educate us ;-) POSIX doesn't care whether you ship separate binary files or a single binary file to implement commands. It's the implementor's choice; in this case, the implementor is GNU c

Re: binary files /usr/bin/[ and /usr/bin/test differ

2024-11-18 Thread Arno Lehmann
Am 18.11.2024 um 11:45 schrieb Yassine Chaouche: Dear debian and linux enthusiasts, Have you ever stopped and wondered: Are `/usr/bin/[` and `/usr/bin/test` truly unique across all unices? interesting question (and observation below). I can't say I ever really cared, and I'm not even sure now

Re: binary files /usr/bin/[ and /usr/bin/test differ

2024-11-18 Thread tomas
On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 11:45:53AM +0100, Yassine Chaouche wrote: > Dear debian and linux enthusiasts, > > Have you ever stopped and wondered: > Are `/usr/bin/[` and `/usr/bin/test` truly unique across all unices? > > # diff /usr/bin/\[ /usr/bin/test > Binary files /usr/bi

Re: binary files /usr/bin/[ and /usr/bin/test differ

2024-11-18 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 11:45:53AM +0100, Yassine Chaouche wrote: So, why keep them separate? Is this about some old Unix tradition? an optimization somewhere somehow? Because gnu policy is command behavior to not be dependent on the name of the binary. Historically gnu utilities were often co

Re: binary files /usr/bin/[ and /usr/bin/test differ

2024-11-18 Thread Arno Lehmann
are whether you ship separate binary files or a single binary file so far I'm aware of that... ... find that the two programs shared a single binary file, and either used a hard link or a symbolic link from one to the other. That was fashionable in the past, primarily as a means of reduc

Re: binary files /usr/bin/[ and /usr/bin/test differ

2024-11-18 Thread tomas
On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 12:30:03PM +0100, Yassine Chaouche wrote: > Le 11/18/24 à 11:50, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > > > > Help yourseof :) > > > > https://sources.debian.org/src/coreutils/ > > > > (Of course, apt-get source coreutils would do the same). > > > > Cheers > > > Thank you toma

Re: nautilus not showing files in debian 12

2024-11-01 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Nov 1, 2024 at 10:23 AM Semih Ozlem wrote: > > I did a recent upgrade from debian 11 to debian 12. Nautilus is sometimes not > showing all the files in a directory, although from the command prompt > through ls command I can see that the files are there. Why could this be an

Re: nautilus not showing files in debian 12

2024-11-01 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:17:12 +0300 Semih Ozlem wrote: > I did a recent upgrade from debian 11 to debian 12. Nautilus is > sometimes not showing all the files in a directory, although from the > command prompt through ls command I can see that the files are there. > Why could this be

nautilus not showing files in debian 12

2024-11-01 Thread Semih Ozlem
Hi everyone, I did a recent upgrade from debian 11 to debian 12. Nautilus is sometimes not showing all the files in a directory, although from the command prompt through ls command I can see that the files are there. Why could this be and how can it be fixed? Thank you in advance. Sincerely

files .fw

2024-10-30 Thread alejo
I need to install files .fw on bullseye but I only find the framework program this program works for bullseye too? I don’t think so Are there some different programs for Linux?

Re: Popularity contest files in /var/log

2024-10-29 Thread Bruno Schneider
imagination I'm afraid. 😀 Ok, what I really mean is that it shouldn't be failing consistently. > If I were you I'd be looking at how often it fails compared to how often > it is run. Are there files left behind in /var/log for every invocation > for example. Ok, that is ha

Re: Popularity contest files in /var/log

2024-10-29 Thread Bruno Schneider
On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 4:00 PM Andy Smith wrote: > However, if popularity-contest experiences a problem during submit then > it does leave behind a file named like /var/log/popularity-contest.12345 > (and possibly another with .gpg on the end) where "12345" was the > process ID of the running popu

Re: Popularity contest files in /var/log

2024-10-29 Thread Andy Smith
;m afraid. 😀 > I don't know how else I could look into why popularity-contest > consistently fails. If I were you I'd be looking at how often it fails compared to how often it is run. Are there files left behind in /var/log for every invocation for example. I'd probably a

Re: recover files

2024-10-26 Thread Hans
Even very big files should not be the problem, because, when the header is found all date until the footer are the file. When you are quick and do not overwrite your device (thus create an iumage as soon as possible!), also big data can be saved. And here comes scalpel in handy: scalpel has

Re: recover files

2024-10-26 Thread tomas
On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 06:30:07PM +0200, Hans wrote: > Even very big files should not be the problem, because, when the header is > found all date until the footer are the file. Well, but that file content is cut up in little 4K snippets strewn around your disk's free space. Th

Re: recover files

2024-10-26 Thread Max Nikulin
it reads (form the imagefile) and then finds headers and footers (similar to scalpel) apt show extundelete [...] Description: utility to recover deleted files from ext3/ext4 partition extundelete uses the information stored in the partition's journal to attempt to recover a file that has

Re: Popularity contest files in /var/log

2024-10-26 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2024-10-25, Andy Smith wrote: > On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 03:54:58PM -0300, Bruno Schneider wrote: >> I noticed that I have hundreds of files whose names start with >> "popularity-contest" in /var/log. They don't even seem to be logs. >> They seem to be dat

Re: recover files

2024-10-26 Thread Hans
> Thank you for the detailed answer. youre welcome. > > I have tried ext4magic. My impression is that it might have an issue > with reading journal and that it is unnecessary strict walking through > inodes (zeroing invalidates checksums if I remember it correctly). It > may

Re: recover files

2024-10-26 Thread Max Nikulin
checksums if I remember it correctly). It may restore some files, however I can not figure out what approach extundelete or other tools may use to noticeably improve success rate since important data is overwritten. I was very successfull with photorec and autopsy. Does autopsy/sleuthkit use some

Re: recover files

2024-10-26 Thread Hans
Yes, whilst extundelete is not so easy to use, I was very successfull with photorec and autopsy. Last time I had to revover 2 TB music files for a friend, and photorec gave me all files back. However, i had to rename the filenames to the title of the music, but here puddletag could help. As

Re: recover files

2024-10-26 Thread tomas
On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 09:57:11AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 26/10/2024 02:03, Hans wrote: > > Am Freitag, 25. Oktober 2024, 20:32:29 CEST schrieb loulet...@sina.com: > > > Hi folksIs there possible to recover deleted files in ext4 filesystem? > > > > Try ext

Re: recover files

2024-10-25 Thread Max Nikulin
On 26/10/2024 02:03, Hans wrote: Am Freitag, 25. Oktober 2024, 20:32:29 CEST schrieb loulet...@sina.com: Hi folksIs there possible to recover deleted files in ext4 filesystem? Try extundelete. [...] Using an image, you can try nice tools like foremost, scalpel or autopsy to recover files

回复:Re: recover files

2024-10-25 Thread louletian
Thanks Hans,I will try these step. - 原始邮件 - 发件人:Hans 收件人:debian-user@lists.debian.org 主题:Re: recover files 日期:2024年10月26日 03点04分 Am Freitag, 25. Oktober 2024, 20:32:29 CEST schrieb loulet...@sina.com: > Hi folksIs there possible to recover dele

Re: recover files

2024-10-25 Thread Hans
Am Freitag, 25. Oktober 2024, 20:32:29 CEST schrieb loulet...@sina.com: > Hi folksIs there possible to recover deleted files in ext4 filesystem? > Try extundelete. Hint: Make an image from the whole partition using dd before do any recover tries. Then u

Re: Popularity contest files in /var/log

2024-10-25 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 03:54:58PM -0300, Bruno Schneider wrote: > I noticed that I have hundreds of files whose names start with > "popularity-contest" in /var/log. They don't even seem to be logs. > They seem to be data that popularity-contest sends away. popularity

Popularity contest files in /var/log

2024-10-25 Thread Bruno Schneider
I noticed that I have hundreds of files whose names start with "popularity-contest" in /var/log. They don't even seem to be logs. They seem to be data that popularity-contest sends away. Has anyone else noticed this? Is this a bug? It seems they are in the wrong place or, at l

recover files

2024-10-25 Thread louletian
Hi folksIs there possible to recover deleted files in ext4 filesystem?

Re: DD convert files to UDF filesystem

2024-10-20 Thread David Christensen
On 10/20/24 13:00, William Torrez Corea wrote: I am trying to boot my USB but this device is unrecognizable for the BIOS. How can I convert filesystems through DD? I want to save a copy of the file in MSDOS or GPT. What is the make and model of your computer? What is the make and model of

Re: DD convert files to UDF filesystem

2024-10-20 Thread Charles Curley
you want to do; than we can give you more precise help. > > I want to save a copy of the file in MSDOS or GPT. MS-DOS is an operating system. It used the File Allocation Table (FAT) file system, of which there are many variants. GPT is a partition table layout. You don't save fil

DD convert files to UDF filesystem

2024-10-20 Thread William Torrez Corea
I am trying to boot my USB but this device is unrecognizable for the BIOS. How can I convert filesystems through DD? I want to save a copy of the file in MSDOS or GPT. -- With kindest regards, William. *Larry Wall invented a messy programming language -- and changed the face of the Web*

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