Clearing up some of my misinformation about the electoral college:
"Electors chosen on Election Day meet in their respective state capitals (or in
the case of Washington, D.C., within the District) on the Monday after the
second Wednesday in December, at which time they cast their electoral
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 06:41:27AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
>>Bzt. And let's try this again. Paul... think carefully. Exactly what
>>would they be reading if they could read? Remember... NO MASS MEDIA. Any
> Let's see.. about 200 years ago? Printing press invented
On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 10:29:53PM -0700, David Koski wrote:
> On Tuesday 30 August 2005 07:39 pm, Vikki Roemer wrote:
>
>
>
> > ..go on shopping sprees every weekend or so. My cousins were dumped into
> > daycare as soon as they hit the minimum age (6 weeks-- I kid you not), and
> > are the mo
On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 06:41:27AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
> > No, it was in hopes that out of each state, there would be at least N
> > number
> > of people who knew how to read.
>
> Bzt. And let's try this again. Paul... think carefully. Exactly what
> would they
On Tuesday 30 August 2005 07:39 pm, Vikki Roemer wrote:
> ..go on shopping sprees every weekend or so. My cousins were dumped into
> daycare as soon as they hit the minimum age (6 weeks-- I kid you not), and
> are the most undisciplined kids I've ever seen. Preachers kids are almost
> always b
On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 04:53:44PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
>
> working two lower paying jobs to make ends meet. However, the people
> who are in such situations are completely dwarfed by the number of
> people who have the husband and wife both working and unwilling to give
> up their lei
On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 04:26:38PM -0400, Brendan wrote:
> On Monday 29 August 2005 08:58 pm, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> > not to." I think it is rather indicting. Parents do a piss poor job of
> > raising their children to be concerned citizens because they are too
> > busy working their two jo
On Monday 29 August 2005 08:58 pm, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> not to." I think it is rather indicting. Parents do a piss poor job of
> raising their children to be concerned citizens because they are too
> busy working their two jobs so they can live in the nice neighborhood in
> a 5 bedroom hou
Paul Johnson wrote:
> No, it was in hopes that out of each state, there would be at least N number
> of people who knew how to read.
Bzt. And let's try this again. Paul... think carefully. Exactly what
would they be reading if they could read? Remember... NO MASS MEDIA. Any
publication
Steve Lamb wrote:
William Ballard wrote:
All right, kids, that's enough.
Don't make me take off my belt.
Yes, the threat of William with his pants down is sure to scare anyone.
Especially William.
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On Monday 29 August 2005 05:58 pm, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> Parents do a piss poor job of raising their children to be concerned
> citizens because they are too busy working their two jobs so they can live
> in the nice neighborhood in a 5 bedroom house and drive a new Escalade and
> new Mer
gt; >> the former.
> >
> > That's what I said.
>
> Because the original intent of the Electoral College was for the people
> to elect representatives who would then look into and considered all
> candidates for the Presidency and cast votes in accordance with whom th
On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 05:23:24PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
>
> Because the original intent of the Electoral College was for the people to
> elect representatives who would then look into and considered all candidates
> for the Presidency and cast votes in accordance with whom t
William Ballard wrote:
> All right, kids, that's enough.
> Don't make me take off my belt.
Yes, the threat of William with his pants down is sure to scare anyone.
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Katipo wrote:
> David Jardine wrote:
>> I still don't see the difference between "mob rule" (as used here) and
>> democracy - and how electoral colleges produce the latter rather than
>> the former.
> That's what I said.
Because the original intent
David Jardine wrote:
I still don't see the difference between "mob rule" (as used here)
and democracy - and how electoral colleges produce the latter rather
than the former.
That's what I said.
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On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 09:26:44PM +0800, Katipo wrote:
> David Jardine wrote:
>
> >Wouldn't that give you the same result as a direct popular election,
> >"mob rule" as you call it?
> >
I wrote the above sentence, only to realise after I'd sent it off
what nonsense it was. Apologies for the n
On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 12:15:09PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote:
>
> Thanks for proving my point by focusing on one point and getting stuck on it
> instead of looking at the overall picture.
>
> Now look at how much government grew, including how big the debt grow under
> Reagan, Bush, and Bush, co
On Monday 29 August 2005 02:26 am, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Hal Vaughan wrote:
> > On Monday 29 August 2005 12:40 am, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> >>First off, it would be nice if more people held that view. Maybe then
> >>we would not be suffering at the hands of liberals and neo-cons that
> >>think th
On Sunday 28 August 2005 11:26 pm, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Going to try to sell me
> the line she's not a liberal?
Given that the Democrats have been a slightly-right-of-center party as long as
I've been alive, yes. Hillary Clinton is a moderate-conservative.
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Katipo wrote:
> What I like about "mob rule", is that after the initial stages where a
> dumbed down, general population had made a few painful mistakes, and it
> had sunk in that they were big people now
Hate to tell it you but that isn't the case. What often happens is that
in mob rule peop
David Jardine wrote:
Wouldn't that give you the same result as a direct popular election,
"mob rule" as you call it?
What I like about "mob rule", is that after the initial stages where a
dumbed down, general population had made a few painful mistakes, and it
had sunk in that they were bi
On Sun, Aug 28, 2005 at 09:48:14PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> [...]
> The electoral college has a very specific purpose, to prevent the
> mob rule from swaying election results.
> [...]
> Personally, however, I like how Nebraska (and I forget the other
> state) does i
Steve Lamb wrote:
If you want to see a liberal dictating larger government at tbe
expense of a person's personal life just look for the word "protect" and
you'll spot it. It's a bingo if "protect" is followed almost immediately by
"children".
Not always.
http://www.commercialalert.org/ne
Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 11:14:24AM +0800, Katipo wrote:
Any government, that usurps the right of an individual to: make his/er
own decision on his own personal existence; to make the wrong decision;
and to suffer by it, is not a democratic institution, and fails in its
Hal Vaughan wrote:
> On Monday 29 August 2005 12:40 am, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
>>First off, it would be nice if more people held that view. Maybe then
>>we would not be suffering at the hands of liberals and neo-cons that
>>think that the only way to accomplish anything is with a bigger
>>gover
On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 11:14:24AM +0800, Katipo wrote:
> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > It would be better if all states did that, if only
> >because it provides a more accurate reflection of what the people want
> >without allowing sudden changes in the public mood to unduly affect
> >e
On Monday 29 August 2005 12:40 am, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 11:14:24AM +0800, Katipo wrote:
> > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> > >
> > > It would be better if all states did that, if only
> > >because it provides a more accurate reflection of what the people want
> > >withou
On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 11:14:24AM +0800, Katipo wrote:
> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
>
> >
> > It would be better if all states did that, if only
> >because it provides a more accurate reflection of what the people want
> >without allowing sudden changes in the public mood to unduly affect
> >elect
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
It would be better if all states did that, if only
because it provides a more accurate reflection of what the people want
without allowing sudden changes in the public mood to unduly affect
election results.
Any government, that usurps the right of an individual t
in the United States, and their votes are not legally bound to
> > the popular vote for the state they represent in most states. Americans
> > cannot vote for their own president.
>
> That's like saying that American's don't get to pass their own laws
> since on
ate they represent in most states. Americans cannot vote for their
> own president.
That's like saying that American's don't get to pass their own laws
since only 537 people can initiate/vote on federal legislation. The
electoral college has a very specific purpose, to prev
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