On Tue,29.Jul.08, 20:17:52, Celejar wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:39:58 +0300
> Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ...
>
> > I was somewhat forced to use gmail for smtp because my ISP doesn't allow
> > sending mails with a 'From:' address not on their servers (and I don't
> > want
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 04:32:54PM -0400, Telemachus wrote:
> On Mon Jul 28 2008 @ 8:48, Brad Rogers wrote:
> > On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:33:36 -0400
> > Telemachus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Telemachus,
> >
> > > that looks for a mail with the same title in your sent folder and
> >
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:39:58 +0300
Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> I was somewhat forced to use gmail for smtp because my ISP doesn't allow
> sending mails with a 'From:' address not on their servers (and I don't
> want to use that address).
I just posted about this, several mi
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 02:58:58PM +0100, Bob Cox wrote:
>
> As a matter of interest I have both of these in my ~/.muttrc
>
> lists [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Bob,
According to the mutt docs you don't need the "subscribe" *and* the
"lists" command, i.e.:
More prec
Le lundi 28 juillet 2008, Arvind Marathe a écrit :
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 07:33:30PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > On Mon,28.Jul.08, 22:27:33, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> > > While i am at it, what do you guys do when you have two copies of
> > > your own mail, one in your sent-mail (or another f
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:32:54 -0400
Telemachus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Telemachus,
> On Mon Jul 28 2008 @ 8:48, Brad Rogers wrote:
> > That could be risky; If Arvind writes multiple messages in a
> > thread, checking Subject alone is insufficient to be sure the
> > message being deleted
On Mon Jul 28 2008 @ 8:48, Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:33:36 -0400
> Telemachus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello Telemachus,
>
> > that looks for a mail with the same title in your sent folder and
>
> That could be risky; If Arvind writes multiple messages in a thread,
> ch
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:33:36 -0400
Telemachus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Telemachus,
> that looks for a mail with the same title in your sent folder and
That could be risky; If Arvind writes multiple messages in a thread,
checking Subject alone is insufficient to be sure the message being
On Tue Jul 29 2008 @ 12:17, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> I would prefer to save the copy echoed by d-u, and delete the one
> saved as "sent-mail". The copy echoed by d-u would have the list
> headers, so if i ever use some search criteria using list headers, my
> mails would also be detected. As i said
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 00:17:25 +0530
Arvind Marathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Arvind,
> I would prefer to save the copy echoed by d-u, and delete the one
> saved as "sent-mail". The copy echoed by d-u would have the list
I don't know anything about Mutt's capabilities for this sort of thing
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 06:40:50PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:45:54 +0530
> Arvind Marathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello Arvind,
>
> > your own mails to d-u). I don't see the point in having two copies of
> > my own mail, so i was asking whether other users do any s
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 23:50:39 +0530, Arvind Marathe ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 08:24:18PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > On Mon,28.Jul.08, 22:45:54, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> [...snip...]
> > > I don't see the point in having two copies of
> > > my o
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:45:54 +0530
Arvind Marathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Arvind,
> your own mails to d-u). I don't see the point in having two copies of
> my own mail, so i was asking whether other users do any special
> settings, so that one mail is automatically deleted.
Some ML soft
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 08:24:18PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Mon,28.Jul.08, 22:45:54, Arvind Marathe wrote:
[...snip...]
> > I don't see the point in having two copies of
> > my own mail, so i was asking whether other users do any special
> > settings, so that one mail is a
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 22:45:54, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> > Actually I do have two (because I am subscribed with a different
> > address), I just don't do anything about it. Why should I?
>
> Perhaps i was not clear. When i write a mail to d-u, (say this mail
> for example), the copy obviously gets
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 07:33:30PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Mon,28.Jul.08, 22:27:33, Arvind Marathe wrote:
>
> > While i am at it, what do you guys do when you have two copies of your
> > own mail, one in your sent-mail (or another folder, if you have a hook)
> > and another sent to you
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 22:27:33, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> While i am at it, what do you guys do when you have two copies of your
> own mail, one in your sent-mail (or another folder, if you have a hook)
> and another sent to you by the mailing list? (I know Andrei does not
> have to worry about that,
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 05:31:20PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Mon,28.Jul.08, 20:10:42, Arvind Marathe wrote:
>
> > > You still have a Reply-To: header and some clients might interpret it as
> > > a request for Cc. Mutt does not set it by default, so it must be
> > > something that you
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:28:40AM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> Arvind Marathe wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 03:51:54PM +0200, Thomas Preud'homme wrote:
> >
> >> It doesn't set a CC anymore with this mail. I try a reply to list with
> >> this
> >> email and your previous one. The
The Monday 28 July 2008 16:31:20 Andrei Popescu, you wrote :
> On Mon,28.Jul.08, 20:10:42, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> > > You still have a Reply-To: header and some clients might interpret it
> > > as a request for Cc. Mutt does not set it by default, so it must be
> > > something that you did :)
> >
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 11:28:40, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> Arvind Marathe wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 03:51:54PM +0200, Thomas Preud'homme wrote:
> >
> >> It doesn't set a CC anymore with this mail. I try a reply to list with
> >> this
> >> email and your previous one. The previous one s
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 20:22:36, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> > > > Do you use smtp.gmail.com for sending?
> > >
> > > No.
> >
> > Well, this explains it all :) gmail hasn't seen the mail before so it
> > lets you have it.
> >
> > Beware, if you use gmail also for sending you will definitely not
> > r
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 20:10:42, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> > You still have a Reply-To: header and some clients might interpret it as
> > a request for Cc. Mutt does not set it by default, so it must be
> > something that you did :)
>
> The education continues ;)
Uhh, don't take my word for it. Yo
Arvind Marathe wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 03:51:54PM +0200, Thomas Preud'homme wrote:
>
>> It doesn't set a CC anymore with this mail. I try a reply to list with this
>> email and your previous one. The previous one set a CC but this one don't so
>> you made the good manipulation.
>>
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 03:51:54PM +0200, Thomas Preud'homme wrote:
> The Monday 28 July 2008 15:45:56 Arvind Marathe, you wrote :
> > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:52:49AM +0100, Bob Cox wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 15:58:28 +0530, Arvind Marathe
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > > On Mon,
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 02:58:58PM +0100, Bob Cox wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 19:15:56 +0530, Arvind Marathe ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:52:49AM +0100, Bob Cox wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 15:58:28 +0530, Arvind Marathe ([EMAIL
> > > PROTECTED]) w
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 14:58:58, Bob Cox wrote:
> As a matter of interest I have both of these in my ~/.muttrc
>
> lists [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> but no separate mailing-lists file.
That's irrelevant:
$ ls .mutt/*muttrc
alias_muttrc
bind_muttrc
color_muttrc
folders_
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 05:01:19PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Mon,28.Jul.08, 19:46:47, Arvind Marathe wrote:
>
> > > > Alright! I didn't specify particularly, but my own mails to the group
> > > > have the list headers. Only those mails which also had my email
> > > > address in the "To"
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 04:39:55PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Mon,28.Jul.08, 19:15:56, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:52:49AM +0100, Bob Cox wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 15:58:28 +0530, Arvind Marathe ([EMAIL
> > > PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Mon, Jul
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 19:46:47, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> > > Alright! I didn't specify particularly, but my own mails to the group
> > > have the list headers. Only those mails which also had my email
> > > address in the "To" or "Cc" fields did not have the list headers.
> >
> > Do you use smtp.gma
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 19:15:56 +0530, Arvind Marathe ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:52:49AM +0100, Bob Cox wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 15:58:28 +0530, Arvind Marathe ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:28:30PM +0300, Andrei Pop
The Monday 28 July 2008 15:45:56 Arvind Marathe, you wrote :
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:52:49AM +0100, Bob Cox wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 15:58:28 +0530, Arvind Marathe
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:28:30PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > > > P.S. You know
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 01:03:02PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Mon,28.Jul.08, 15:58:28, Arvind Marathe wrote:
>
> > Alright! I didn't specify particularly, but my own mails to the group
> > have the list headers. Only those mails which also had my email
> > address in the "To" or "Cc" field
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 19:15:56, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:52:49AM +0100, Bob Cox wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 15:58:28 +0530, Arvind Marathe ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:28:30PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> >
> >
> > > > P.S.
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:52:49AM +0100, Bob Cox wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 15:58:28 +0530, Arvind Marathe ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:28:30PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
>
>
> > > P.S. You know you're asking for a Cc on every post?
> >
> > No i'm not
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 15:58:28 +0530, Arvind Marathe ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:28:30PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > P.S. You know you're asking for a Cc on every post?
>
> No i'm not.
You are! I think what Andrei is referring to is being caused by this
li
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 15:58:28, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> Alright! I didn't specify particularly, but my own mails to the group
> have the list headers. Only those mails which also had my email
> address in the "To" or "Cc" fields did not have the list headers.
Do you use smtp.gmail.com for sending?
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:28:30PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Mon,28.Jul.08, 15:07:31, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:37:46AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > > [Cc'd as per Reply-To *and* Mail-Followup-To]
> > >
> > > On Sun,27.Jul.08, 16:48:00, Arvind Marathe wrote:
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 15:07:31, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:37:46AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > [Cc'd as per Reply-To *and* Mail-Followup-To]
> >
> > On Sun,27.Jul.08, 16:48:00, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> >
> > > > > Does it have the mailing list headers (List-Id, List-Post
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:37:46AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> [Cc'd as per Reply-To *and* Mail-Followup-To]
>
> On Sun,27.Jul.08, 16:48:00, Arvind Marathe wrote:
>
> > > > Does it have the mailing list headers (List-Id, List-Post, ...)?
> > >
> > > No.
> >
> > Sorry i was too fast in rep
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:37:46AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> [Cc'd as per Reply-To *and* Mail-Followup-To]
>
> On Sun,27.Jul.08, 16:48:00, Arvind Marathe wrote:
>
> > > > Does it have the mailing list headers (List-Id, List-Post, ...)?
> > >
> > > No.
> >
> > Sorry i was too fast in rep
[Cc'd as per Reply-To *and* Mail-Followup-To]
On Sun,27.Jul.08, 16:48:00, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> > > Does it have the mailing list headers (List-Id, List-Post, ...)?
> >
> > No.
>
> Sorry i was too fast in replying, because i was doing something else.
> Yes, the full header has the mailing
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 04:48:00PM +0530, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 04:42:19PM +0530, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 08:18:29AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > > On Sun,27.Jul.08, 01:28:44, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 10:19:48PM +0
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 04:42:19PM +0530, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 08:18:29AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > On Sun,27.Jul.08, 01:28:44, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 10:19:48PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > > > On Sun,27.Jul.08, 01:03:01, Arvind Ma
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 08:18:29AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Sun,27.Jul.08, 01:28:44, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 10:19:48PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > > On Sun,27.Jul.08, 01:03:01, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> > >
> > > > ps: When i sent mail to d-u using gmail web
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 08:01:03AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Sun,27.Jul.08, 01:28:44, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 10:19:48PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > > On Sun,27.Jul.08, 01:03:01, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> > >
> > > > ps: When i sent mail to d-u using gmail web
On Sun,27.Jul.08, 01:28:44, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 10:19:48PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > On Sun,27.Jul.08, 01:03:01, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> >
> > > ps: When i sent mail to d-u using gmail web interface, there used to
> > > be a copy in sent-mail, but i never got th
On Sun,27.Jul.08, 01:28:44, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 10:19:48PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > On Sun,27.Jul.08, 01:03:01, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> >
> > > ps: When i sent mail to d-u using gmail web interface, there used to
> > > be a copy in sent-mail, but i never got th
On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:34:28 +0530
"Arvind Marathe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am trying to configure getmail to retrieve mails to my local machine
> from my gmail account. I have enabled imap in gmail. Also i have been
Have you tried POP?
> Arvind
Celejar
--
mailmin.sourceforge.net - remot
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 10:19:48PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Sun,27.Jul.08, 01:03:01, Arvind Marathe wrote:
>
> > ps: When i sent mail to d-u using gmail web interface, there used to
> > be a copy in sent-mail, but i never got the copy i was supposed to get
> > as a d-u subscriber. Now i
On Sun,27.Jul.08, 01:03:01, Arvind Marathe wrote:
> ps: When i sent mail to d-u using gmail web interface, there used to
> be a copy in sent-mail, but i never got the copy i was supposed to get
> as a d-u subscriber. Now i am using mutt to send this mail, i wonder
> if i will get the copy of my o
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 10:03:41AM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> Arvind Marathe wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Andrei Popescu
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon,14.Jul.08, 20:44:32, Celejar wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Note that Gmail can be used via POP or IMAP, w
Arvind Marathe wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Andrei Popescu
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Mon,14.Jul.08, 20:44:32, Celejar wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Note that Gmail can be used via POP or IMAP, without the web interface,
>>>
>> I'm wondering, did any of you have problems la
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Arvind Marathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Andrei Popescu
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Mon,14.Jul.08, 20:44:32, Celejar wrote:
>>
>>> Note that Gmail can be used via POP or IMAP, without the web interface,
>>
>> I'm wondering,
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Andrei Popescu
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon,14.Jul.08, 20:44:32, Celejar wrote:
>
>> Note that Gmail can be used via POP or IMAP, without the web interface,
>
> I'm wondering, did any of you have problems lately with that? Quite
> often in the last weeks I ge
On Mon July 21 2008, s. keeling wrote:
> They're using tbird or mozilla to read mail. You expect them to read
> Received: headers?!?
well, I use Thunderbird on my laptop & kmail now. ALT-V-H-A says show headers
ALL. I use that when I send spam to spamcop and other places.. then ALT-V-H-F
for v
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On 07/21/08 19:59, s. keeling wrote:
> Bob Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 00:34:56 -0500, Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 07/19/08 23:08, Celejar wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:59:51 +0100
Bob Cox <[
Bob Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 00:34:56 -0500, Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> wrote:
>
> > On 07/19/08 23:08, Celejar wrote:
> > > On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:59:51 +0100
> > > Bob Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:46:55 -0700, Paul Jo
On Sat,19.Jul.08, 18:43:32, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 07/19/08 17:26, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > On Sat,19.Jul.08, 12:35:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
> [snip]
> >> Decrease the frequency at which you check your mail?
> >
> > I just did (from 5 to 15 min). Let's see if this helps.
>
> If that helps, then
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 00:34:56 -0500, Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On 07/19/08 23:08, Celejar wrote:
> > On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:59:51 +0100
> > Bob Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:46:55 -0700, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> >> wrote:
> >>
>
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On 07/19/08 23:08, Celejar wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:59:51 +0100
> Bob Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:46:55 -0700, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Name names! I bet other people would like to
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:59:51 +0100
Bob Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:46:55 -0700, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> wrote:
>
> > Name names! I bet other people would like to use that ISP.
>
> Well, I thought you would have worked it out from the headers ;-)
>
>
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On 07/19/08 17:26, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Sat,19.Jul.08, 12:35:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
[snip]
>> Decrease the frequency at which you check your mail?
>
> I just did (from 5 to 15 min). Let's see if this helps.
If that helps, then you didn't cure
On Sat,19.Jul.08, 12:35:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 18:34 -0700, David Barrett wrote:
> > Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > > On Mon,14.Jul.08, 20:44:32, Celejar wrote:
> > >
> > >> Note that Gmail can be used via POP or IMAP, without the web interface,
> > >
> > > I'm wondering, di
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:36:57PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 19:04 -0700, Brian Marshall wrote:
> > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:46:07 -0500
> > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I keep telling people that Gmail is evil, but no one will listen.
> > >
> > > If you
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:56:37PM -0700, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was
heard to say:
> On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 07:13 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> > [0] I don't drink coffee, but I believe that four or five cups here in
> > Seattle would equal my monthly $20 payment to Slicehost.
>
Verizon blocks 25 on FiOS, and consumer level service agreements usually
prohibit you from running servers. I to asked Verizon about their
business service, and it same pipe branded for businesses was 3 times
more expensive which meant that I ended up with a virtual hosted
solution for our mail
On Sat, 2008-07-19 at 13:24 -0700, Brian Marshall wrote:
> Mmm, I'm on Comcast. I tried configuring postfix last week when I
> noticed that port 25 is blocked outbound. I gave up when I couldn't
> make postfix use SMTP AUTH...
Oh, I'm so sorry. I recently switched from Comcast myself. Word of
w
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:36:57 -0700
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 19:04 -0700, Brian Marshall wrote:
> > The reason I use Gmail is because there is no way I can set up
> > everything for email on a local server (not the least of which
> > preventing this is the res
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:46:55 -0700, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Name names! I bet other people would like to use that ISP.
Well, I thought you would have worked it out from the headers ;-)
I use Zen Internet www.zen.co.uk - although there several other UK ISPs
offering stati
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 07:13 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> [0] I don't drink coffee, but I believe that four or five cups here in
> Seattle would equal my monthly $20 payment to Slicehost.
You're doing it wrong. Buy the whole bean coffee, grind and brew it
yourself and $20 is closer to 50
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 00:33 -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>
> >> An ordinary user might not have resources to have a machine running
> >> 24/7.
> >
> > Why not?
> >
>
> 1. Because it is expensive and waste of resources.
Only if done incorrectly.
> 2. If you ar
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 07:04 +0100, Bob Cox wrote:
> Yes, I have used Postfix on my main home server for years now and it is
> really pretty much zero maintenance. Because I am fortunate enough to
> have a static IP address from my (consumer) ISP, (which is also
> thoughtful enough to allow settin
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 19:04 -0700, Brian Marshall wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:46:07 -0500
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I keep telling people that Gmail is evil, but no one will listen.
> >
> > If you care about your data, and want to get to it at any time, keep
> > your data
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 18:34 -0700, David Barrett wrote:
> Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > On Mon,14.Jul.08, 20:44:32, Celejar wrote:
> >
> >> Note that Gmail can be used via POP or IMAP, without the web interface,
> >
> > I'm wondering, did any of you have problems lately with that? Quite
> > often
On Fri,18.Jul.08, 19:57:19, Andrew Reid wrote:
> On Friday 18 July 2008 13:47, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > On Sat,19.Jul.08, 00:43:13, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > > > I receive most of my emails through my ISPs POP server (ex. all list
> > > > traffic), but I can't use their SMTP server to relay as th
On Friday 18 July 2008 13:47, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Sat,19.Jul.08, 00:43:13, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > > I receive most of my emails through my ISPs POP server (ex. all list
> > > traffic), but I can't use their SMTP server to relay as they don't
> > > allow a different From, not even after a
On Sat,19.Jul.08, 00:43:13, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > I receive most of my emails through my ISPs POP server (ex. all list
> > traffic), but I can't use their SMTP server to relay as they don't allow
> > a different From, not even after authentication.
>
> I think you may be confusing "relay
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:14:42AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Mon,14.Jul.08, 23:16:29, Ron Johnson wrote:
>
> > Most people must configure their MUA to send email to
> > smtp.bigisp.net, and receive mail from pop.bigisp.net. But with
> > Unix (and Debian makes this very easy) you can conf
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi engaged keyboard and shared this
with us all:
>--} Ron Johnson wrote:
>--}
>--} >> An ordinary user might not have resources to have a machine
> running --} >> 24/7.
>--} >
>--} > Why not?
>--} >
>--}
>--} 1. Because it is expensive and waste of res
Ron Johnson wrote:
>> An ordinary user might not have resources to have a machine running
>> 24/7.
>
> Why not?
>
1. Because it is expensive and waste of resources.
2. If you are running a machine 24/7, the room better have good air
conditioning to reduce all the heat generated. Air cond
On 7/16/08, Daniel Burrows wrote:
>> plan (extra pay for more MBs). It's too expensive for me to get a
>> better plan, and plain not worth the money for the limited needs of
>> people here at home.
>
> I don't know how expensive is "too expensive", but when I got fed up
> with my ISP's mail serve
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 05:00:09PM +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say:
> On 7/16/08, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> An ordinary user might not have resources to have a machine running
> >> 24/7.
> >
> > Why not?
> >
>
> Because I currently am using the services of an internet service
> provi
On 7/16/08, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> An ordinary user might not have resources to have a machine running
>> 24/7.
>
> Why not?
>
Because I currently am using the services of an internet service
provider who claims to be providing "broadband" access under a plan
where I am metered by the byte, a
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On 07/16/08 06:07, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>
>> I keep telling people that Gmail is evil, but no one will listen.
>>
>
> I don't think so. It is as evil as using any proprietary software. I use
> proprietary software all the
Ron Johnson wrote:
> I keep telling people that Gmail is evil, but no one will listen.
>
I don't think so. It is as evil as using any proprietary software. I use
proprietary software all the time. Their TOS is very restrictive (as is the
case for most proprietary software). So, I just use it not
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 04:23:10 +0300
Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon,14.Jul.08, 20:44:32, Celejar wrote:
>
> > Note that Gmail can be used via POP or IMAP, without the web interface,
>
> I'm wondering, did any of you have problems lately with that? Quite
I haven't had troubl
On Mon,14.Jul.08, 23:16:29, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Most people must configure their MUA to send email to
> smtp.bigisp.net, and receive mail from pop.bigisp.net. But with
> Unix (and Debian makes this very easy) you can configure your MTA to
> be a relayhost[1].
I receive most of my emails throu
On Mon,14.Jul.08, 20:46:07, Ron Johnson wrote:
> If you care about your data, and want to get to it at any time, keep
> your data and your apps on your local machine.
I don't keep any data on gmail servers. I use it mainly for posting.
Only a limited amount of mail goes through their servers be
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 04:23:10 +0300
Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Andrei,
> If I go to the webinterface I am requested to pass a captcha test.
> This is getting pretty annoying!
If you don't use the web i/f at GMail, they "do things"(0) to your
account. Using the web interface
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 23:16:29 -0500, Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I'm certain that you *are* running a "complete mail package" and
> don't even know it! :O
>
> Just about all Unix systems use the same MTA[0] to transfer intra-
> system mail as they do to transfer mail across the
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:16:29 -0500
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 07/14/08 22:41, Brian Marshall wrote:
> > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:43:38 -0500
> > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> On 07/14/08 21:04, Brian Marshall wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:46:07 -0500
> >>> R
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On 07/14/08 22:41, Brian Marshall wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:43:38 -0500
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On 07/14/08 21:04, Brian Marshall wrote:
>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:46:07 -0500
>>> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:43:38 -0500
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 07/14/08 21:04, Brian Marshall wrote:
> > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:46:07 -0500
> > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> I keep telling people that Gmail is evil, but no one will listen.
> >>
> >> If you care a
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On 07/14/08 21:04, Brian Marshall wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:46:07 -0500
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I keep telling people that Gmail is evil, but no one will listen.
>>
>> If you care about your data, and want to get to it at a
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:46:07 -0500
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I keep telling people that Gmail is evil, but no one will listen.
>
> If you care about your data, and want to get to it at any time, keep
> your data and your apps on your local machine.
So what would you recommend for
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On 07/14/08 20:34, David Barrett wrote:
> Andrei Popescu wrote:
>> On Mon,14.Jul.08, 20:44:32, Celejar wrote:
>>
>>> Note that Gmail can be used via POP or IMAP, without the web interface,
>>
>> I'm wondering, did any of you have problems lately wi
Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Mon,14.Jul.08, 20:44:32, Celejar wrote:
Note that Gmail can be used via POP or IMAP, without the web interface,
I'm wondering, did any of you have problems lately with that? Quite
often in the last weeks I get a mail from my getmail cronjob that my
password was rej
On Mon,14.Jul.08, 20:44:32, Celejar wrote:
> Note that Gmail can be used via POP or IMAP, without the web interface,
I'm wondering, did any of you have problems lately with that? Quite
often in the last weeks I get a mail from my getmail cronjob that my
password was rejected.
If I go to the
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:22:29 -0400
"Jeff Soules" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > GMail is known buggy and not suitable for mailing list use, if only for
> > it's propensity to send HTML when the user wasn't expecting to, and it's
> > brutal lack of Reply to Mailing List and poor threading.
>
> And
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