Re: Btrfs best practices: defrag?

2022-01-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 08:38:41PM +, piorunz wrote: > My current fstab mounting: > > noatime,space_cache=v2,compress-force=zstd:3 0 2 > > Will autodefrag break COW files? Like I copy paste a file and I save > space, but defrag with destroy this space saving? Yes,

Re: Btrfs best practices: defrag?

2022-01-26 Thread piorunz
mented. I never defragmented them, in fact. Running manual defrag on server machine, like: sudo btrfs filesystem defrag -v -t4G -r /home takes ages and can cause 120 second timeout kernel error in dmesg due to service timeouts. I prefer to autodefrag gradually, overtime, mount option seems to be

Re: Does the vfat partition need defrag under Gnu/Linux ?

2009-05-28 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-05-27_11:41:09, Hashimoto wrote: > Hello, > > I have an external disk actually using one vfat partition type, so I'm > wondering if it's necessary to defrag it since I used to save and remove > a lot and large files. > > Any suggestions ? It sounds like

Re: Does the vfat partition need defrag under Gnu/Linux ?

2009-05-28 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Muzer wrote: > Yeah. It's annoying that Linux can't defrag FAT natively (or most > filesystems for that matter, the notable exception being ext4). I've been using linux fs on workstations and servers for many years and never missed the 'defrag' feature. From wha

Re: Does the vfat partition need defrag under Gnu/Linux ?

2009-05-28 Thread Muzer
Todd A. Jacobs wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:41:09AM -0300, Hashimoto wrote: I have an external disk actually using one vfat partition type, so I'm wondering if it's necessary to defrag it since I used to save and remove a lot and large files. This isn't really a

Re: Does the vfat partition need defrag under Gnu/Linux ?

2009-05-28 Thread Todd A. Jacobs
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:41:09AM -0300, Hashimoto wrote: > I have an external disk actually using one vfat partition type, so I'm > wondering if it's necessary to defrag it since I used to save and > remove a lot and large files. This isn't really a Linux question; it

Does the vfat partition need defrag under Gnu/Linux ?

2009-05-27 Thread Hashimoto
Hello, I have an external disk actually using one vfat partition type, so I'm wondering if it's necessary to defrag it since I used to save and remove a lot and large files. Any suggestions ? Thanks, -- Rodrigo Hashimoto

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my (FAT) drive?

2005-08-24 Thread Clive Menzies
On (24/08/05 10:24), Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 05:49:58PM +0200, Tim Ruehsen wrote: > > > > > You don't need to. You only need to defragment your disk if your > > > operating system is incapable of keeping the fragmentation under > > > control, and Linux does not suffer from t

RE: Newbie: How do I defrag my (FAT) drive?

2005-08-24 Thread Kretzer, Jason R (Big Sandy)
I would boot a Windows/DOS boot disk and run defrag from there. I would not try it from linux. Just my first thoughts. -Jason -Original Message- From: Hendrik Boom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 10:25 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Newbie

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my (FAT) drive?

2005-08-24 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 05:49:58PM +0200, Tim Ruehsen wrote: > > > You don't need to. You only need to defragment your disk if your > > operating system is incapable of keeping the fragmentation under > > control, and Linux does not suffer from this problem. > > Many people say so, but it is not

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-24 Thread Duncan Anderson
Tim Ruehsen wrote: Jiann-Ming Su posted a link, which talks about two possibilities to defragment your discs: either use defrag (but make a backup before!) or just make a backup, clean your partitions and restore the backup. I did the last thing (after using my system for ~2 years for ~10

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-24 Thread Joseph Haig
--- Tim Ruehsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You don't need to. You only need to defragment your disk if your > > operating system is incapable of keeping the fragmentation under > > control, and Linux does not suffer from this problem. > > Many people say so, but it is not true. > > Ext2

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread David E. Fox
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:38:29 +0200 Michal Simovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > don't know, if there is a defrag utility for linux, but first of all you > should realize that after few months there is probably no need to Under most circumstances yes. I've been run

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread David E. Fox
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 22:19:55 -0400 kamaraju kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > post your df -h output? I have a feeling that defragmenting an ext2/ext3 > partition does not increase performance if the partitions are not > heavily filled up. But I could be wrong. I'm skeptical that it woul

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
educe fragmentation a bit (in comparison with (V)FAT), but ext2 can't prevent it. And it is not a feature of 'Linux' it is a feature of the filesystem. Jiann-Ming Su posted a link, which talks about two possibilities to defragment your discs: either use defrag (but make a backup bef

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Glenn English
On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 14:11 -0500, Gary Smithe wrote: > Don't hang me (or flame me) for this, but some Microsoft based speculation. No prob. All this applies to CP/M and the Apple ][ OS, too. -- Glenn English [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG ID: D0D7FF20 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] w

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Bryan Donlan
On 8/23/05, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 23 August 2005 08:49 am, Tim Ruehsen wrote: > > > I did the last thing (after using my system for ~2 years for ~10 hours a > > day, making updates every day) and my system booted about 30% faster. Now, > > after a year or so, it seem

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 23 August 2005 08:49 am, Tim Ruehsen wrote: > I did the last thing (after using my system for ~2 years for ~10 hours a > day, making updates every day) and my system booted about 30% faster. Now, > after a year or so, it seems to be time to do it again (booting became > slower and slowe

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 23 August 2005 08:24 am, Ian wrote: > I realized, I've had Sarge installed for a few months, and I should > probably defragment my partitions. How can I do this? You can't, and you shouldn't need to. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trou

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Gary Smithe
On 8/23/05, Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In gmane.linux.debian.user Ian wrote: > > > I realized, I've had Sarge installed for a few months, and I should probably > > defragment my partitions. How can I do this? > > > > Here's the best explanation of the topic that I have seen so far. > Credit

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Dave Ewart
> (V)FAT), but ext2 can't prevent it. And it is not a feature of 'Linux' it is > a feature of the filesystem. With this in mind, selecting a suitable partitioning scheme can minimize any fragmentation issues. For example, areas of the filesystem with a large turnover of files can cause serious fr

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Tim
In gmane.linux.debian.user Ian wrote: > I realized, I've had Sarge installed for a few months, and I should probably > defragment my partitions. How can I do this? > Here's the best explanation of the topic that I have seen so far. Credit goes to Lew Pitcher:

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Joe Smith
- Original Message - From: "Kent West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: gmane.linux.debian.user Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:33 AM Subject: Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive? Defragging on a Linux system is generally unnecessary; therefore there's no

RE: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Michal Simovic
don't know, if there is a defrag utility for linux, but first of all you should realize that after few months there is probably no need to defragment. linux filesystems like ext3 get fragmented a lot lot less than FAT32 or NTFS as far as i know. besides there is certainly a method

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread garaged
ch talks about two possibilities to defragment > your discs: either use defrag (but make a backup before!) or just make a > backup, clean your partitions and restore the backup. > > I did the last thing (after using my system for ~2 years for ~10 hours a day, > making updates every

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Philippe Grenard
Le Mardi 23 Août 2005 17:24, Ian a écrit : > I realized, I've had Sarge installed for a few months, and I should > probably defragment my partitions. How can I do this? well, with linux, i believe you just don't have to defrag your partitions... so don't worry about that anymore ;-)

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Tim Ruehsen
tion a bit (in comparison with (V)FAT), but ext2 can't prevent it. And it is not a feature of 'Linux' it is a feature of the filesystem. Jiann-Ming Su posted a link, which talks about two possibilities to defragment your discs: either use defrag (but make a backup before!) or ju

RE: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Kretzer, Jason R (Big Sandy)
Not a problem. If you don't ASK, you don't GET. -Jason From: Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:42 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive? Thanks for the help, and sorry for

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Ian
Thanks for the help, and sorry for my newbish lack of knowledge.-- "If practice makes perfect, and no one is perfect, then why practice?"

RE: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Florian Dorpmueller
I realized, I've had Sarge installed for a few months, and I should probably defragment my partitions. How can I do this? Normally this is not necessary. But if you want you can use defrag. Flori -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Joseph Haig
--- Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I realized, I've had Sarge installed for a few months, and I should > probably > defragment my partitions. How can I do this? > You don't need to. You only need to defragment your disk if your operating system is incapable of keeping the fragmentation under

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Kent West
Kretzer, Jason R (Big Sandy) wrote: >Unless I am mistaken, there is no "defrag" utility for linux. Anyone >have anything to add? > > Defragging on a Linux system is generally unnecessary; therefore there's no utility for the task. -- Kent West Technology Suppo

Re: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Jiann-Ming Su
On 8/23/05, Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I realized, I've had Sarge installed for a few months, and I should probably > defragment my partitions. How can I do this? > http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Partition.html#FRAGMENTATION -- Jiann-Ming Su "I have to decide between two equally frig

RE: Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Kretzer, Jason R (Big Sandy)
Unless I am mistaken, there is no "defrag" utility for linux. Anyone have anything to add? -Jason From: Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:25 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Newbie: How do I defrag my

Newbie: How do I defrag my drive?

2005-08-23 Thread Ian
I realized, I've had Sarge installed for a few months, and I should probably defragment my partitions. How can I do this?-- "If practice makes perfect, and no one is perfect, then why practice?"

Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System

2005-06-21 Thread steef
Ian Langnickel wrote: Hi Steef, as my mailrules fail to automatically move your messages into my mailinglist folder and I always have to move them manually I would like to ask you to correct some setting in your mailreader software. The "To: " header is broken with your current configuration,

Re: [Fwd: Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System]

2005-06-20 Thread Steve Lamb
steef wrote: No message from ya so I presume you're wondering why he would be saying there's a problem? > Illegal-Object: Syntax error in To: address found on mailgate.god.de: > To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:gebruikerslijst > He's partially correct and partially wrong. His error message

[Fwd: Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System]

2005-06-20 Thread steef
Original Message Subject:Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:24:52 +0200 From: Ian Langnickel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System

2005-06-19 Thread steef
Steve Lamb wrote: steef wrote: Vincent Lönngren wrote: Actually, it refuses to defrag ext3 filesystems, because they have "unsupported features". why would you do that for heaven's sake? Vincent was replying to an old thread. Already disc

Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System

2005-06-18 Thread Steve Lamb
steef wrote: > Vincent Lönngren wrote: >> Actually, it refuses to defrag ext3 filesystems, because they have >> "unsupported features". > why would you do that for heaven's sake? Vincent was replying to an old thread. Already discussed at length. Check ar

Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System

2005-06-18 Thread steef
Vincent Lönngren wrote: Actually, it refuses to defrag ext3 filesystems, because they have "unsupported features". why would you do that for heaven's sake? regards, steef -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System

2005-06-18 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 10:04:16AM +0200, Vincent Lönngren wrote: > Actually, it refuses to defrag ext3 filesystems, because they have > "unsupported features". There is no need to defrag modern *nix filesystems. Why even bother? -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://fa

Re: Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System

2005-06-18 Thread Vincent Lönngren
Actually, it refuses to defrag ext3 filesystems, because they have "unsupported features". -- Vincent Lönngren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System

2005-06-02 Thread Todd A. Jacobs
On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 11:24:47PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > Package: defrag [..] Description: ext2, minix and xiafs filesystem > defragmenter Wouldn't risk it on ext3. If it shouldn't be used on It will work fine on a cleanly-unmounted ext3 partition (e.g. with no pe

Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System

2005-05-27 Thread Chris Bannister
ll run e2fsck to check on defragmentation but would still > >like to know how to run the defrag program. > >Thanks for your replys and consideration of my request, > > e2defrag can't defrag your filesystem because it doesn't understand some > of the options set on i

Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System

2005-05-26 Thread Joris Huizer
Leonard Chatagnier wrote: On Sunday 22 May 2005 03:33 pm, Bill Mair wrote: Steve Lamb wrote: > Leonard Chatagnier wrote: >>Ok, I get your message, but for my gratification, insight and knowledge >>of Linux how do I get the programs to run without error and not distroy >>my harddisk? debian

Re: Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System-No Problem!

2005-05-23 Thread Leonard Chatagnier
nce. On DOS filesystems, the defrag program puts everything on the start of the drive. You may think that this is good for performance, but consider this: - When a file has to be extended (after the fs having been defragged), the next block will be put after all the other files. This will is m

Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System

2005-05-23 Thread Mike
using Linux all the time, I came to find the MS-land rituals somewhat exotic (if unix filesystems take care of themselves, why can't the so called New Technology File System?). It was supposed to if you remember. NT didn't come with a defrag utility until a certian service pack after t

Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System

2005-05-23 Thread Michelle Konzack
defrag -drsv /dev/hda2* > DEBUG: read_tables() > > e2defrag (/dev/hda2): filesystem has unsupported features 'e2defrag' can not defrag ext3 FileSystems Even for ext2 you never should it. You can force e2defrag, but it will destroy your ext3 Journal > Leona

Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System

2005-05-22 Thread Steve Lamb
HPFS didn't have a defrag worth mention either for much the same reasons as have been discussed here. In fact in all my time running NTFS I've hardly ever thought to defrag. When I have it was because of people coming from FAT habits trying to solve unlreated problems (latest was City of He

Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System

2005-05-22 Thread Carlos Rodrigues
ivial amount. On ext3 filesystems with some fairly regular use you should see fragmentation always around 5%. This is normal, and has no impact in performance. On DOS filesystems, the defrag program puts everything on the start of the drive. You may think that this is good for performance, but con

Re: Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System

2005-05-22 Thread Leonard Chatagnier
On Sunday 22 May 2005 03:33 pm, Bill Mair wrote: Steve Lamb wrote: > Leonard Chatagnier wrote: >>Ok, I get your message, but for my gratification, insight and knowledge >>of Linux how do I get the programs to run without error and not distroy >>my harddisk? debian FS != DOS FS This is about

Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System

2005-05-22 Thread John Hasler
Rob writes: > This is about the best explanation I've ever seen, even if it a couple of > years old now: > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.os.linux.mandrake/msg/38a9eeb8d01b1dbb?hl=en Also of note is the fact that ext2 uses a loosest fit algorithm (also known as "worst fit") rather than t

Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System

2005-05-22 Thread Adam Fabian
utility, though. The traditional solution would be to use > >dump/restore. > > > > > > > A! That sounds like something that will read the hard drive and > write back each file to the drive in a > contiguous manner removing lost drive space something akin to MS &g

Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System

2005-05-22 Thread Rob Bochan
On Sunday 22 May 2005 03:33 pm, Bill Mair wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: > > Leonard Chatagnier wrote: > >>Ok, I get your message, but for my gratification, insight and knowledge > >>of Linux how do I get the programs to run without error and not distroy > >>my harddisk? > debian FS != DOS FS This i

Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System

2005-05-22 Thread Bill Mair
ht. Forget about it, continue living and let linux do it's thing. *IF* you feel that a defrag *HAS* to be done, which I very much doubt, then dump the FS and reload it. debian FS != DOS FS And it is better that way :) -- Bill -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System

2005-05-22 Thread Paul Johnson
use dump/restore. > > A! That sounds like something that will read the hard drive and > write back each file to the drive in a > contiguous manner removing lost drive space something akin to MS > defrag. Am I correct in my assumption? Not really, since Linux doesn't put th

Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System

2005-05-22 Thread Paul Johnson
on > defragmentation but would still like to know how to run the defrag > program. You can't with ext3, not that you should. It wasn't designed for that. -- Paul Johnson Email and Instant Messenger (Jabber): [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ursine.ca/~baloo/ pgpvExpmR27i5.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System

2005-05-22 Thread Steve Lamb
Leonard Chatagnier wrote: > Ok, I get your message, but for my gratification, insight and knowledge > of Linux how do I get the programs to run without error and not distroy > my harddisk? I'd say you're not getting the message. You don't need to do it. Period. Full stop. There is no i

Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System

2005-05-22 Thread Leonard Chatagnier
manner removing lost drive space something akin to MS defrag. Am I correct in my assumption? After scanning man dumpe2fs, I see mention of tune2fs and still wonder if I have to remove some ext3 fs features in order to run dump2fs on an ext3 fs. Do I? There were a couple more dump programs, dump

Re: Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System

2005-05-22 Thread Leonard Chatagnier
Leonard Chatagnier wrote: Ok, I get your message, but for my gratification, insight and knowledge of Linux how do I get the programs to run without error and not distroy my harddisk? I'll run e2fsck to check on defragmentation but would still like to know how to run the defrag program. T

Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System

2005-05-21 Thread Carlos Rodrigues
Leonard Chatagnier wrote: Ok, I get your message, but for my gratification, insight and knowledge of Linux how do I get the programs to run without error and not distroy my harddisk? I'll run e2fsck to check on defragmentation but would still like to know how to run the defrag program. T

Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System

2005-05-21 Thread Adam Fabian
On 5/20/05, Leonard Chatagnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > more than 5 months old and has never been defragged but I'm still very > much a newbie. It's very unlikely that your filesystem needs defragmenting after 5 months. As other have already noted, ext3 isn't prone to fragmentation. I wasn'

Re: Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System

2005-05-20 Thread Leonard Chatagnier
ny justification for e2defrag's existence. You can literally never defrag and not run into problems. Ok, I get your message, but for my gratification, insight and knowledge of Linux how do I get the programs to run without error and not distroy my harddisk? I'll run e2fsck to check on d

Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System

2005-05-20 Thread Paul Johnson
justification for e2defrag's existence. You can literally never defrag and not run into problems. -- Paul Johnson Email and Instant Messenger (Jabber): [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ursine.ca/~baloo/ pgpK9yrUJg5eW.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Can't Defrag Ext3 File System

2005-05-20 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
rag (/dev/hda2): filesystem has unsupported features Why are you trying to defrag? ext2 and ext3 do a good job of keeping their fragmentation levels very low (remember, these are not Microsoft products). Unless you have extraordinary curcimstances, you probably don't need to bother. -

Re: file system check, and defrag

2003-11-05 Thread Micha Feigin
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 11:47, Kordula Martin wrote: > Hi all, > > being real new to Debian, and fairly new to Linux, I have the following > questions - > > I have 3.0r1 Woody installed with ext3 file systems and would like to > periodically check, and then defrag, the f

Re: file system check, and defrag

2003-11-04 Thread ajlewis2
In gmane.linux.debian.user, you wrote: > Hi all, > > being real new to Debian, and fairly new to Linux, I have the following > questions - > > I have 3.0r1 Woody installed with ext3 file systems and would like to > periodically check, and then defrag, the file system(s). >

Re: file system check, and defrag

2003-11-04 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 03:47, Kordula Martin wrote: > Hi all, > > being real new to Debian, and fairly new to Linux, I have the following > questions - > > I have 3.0r1 Woody installed with ext3 file systems and would like to > periodically check, and then defrag, the f

file system check, and defrag

2003-11-04 Thread Kordula Martin
Hi all, being real new to Debian, and fairly new to Linux, I have the following questions - I have 3.0r1 Woody installed with ext3 file systems and would like to periodically check, and then defrag, the file system(s). 1. How (and what is the best way) to do this? 2. Other distributions

Re: Linux defragmenter? (ext2/3 defrag)

2003-08-19 Thread Jacob Anawalt
orth for the /var tree and that you might want to do a filesystem check on that tree anyway after a crash. Even with high fragmentation, people don't complain about serious slowdowns. Maybe that is why you don't hear people talking about defrag for ext2/3 file systems, and the defrag t

RE: Defrag in Win2000 no good for FIPS

2000-10-12 Thread Matthew Sherborne
all it's FreeWare! Here's the URL: www.oo-software.com Thanks all for your help and suggestions Matthew Sherborne > -Original Message- > From: Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, 10 October 2000 3:53 p.m. > To: debian user > Subject: Re: Defrag in

Re: AW: Defrag in Win2000 no good for FIPS

2000-10-10 Thread mike
th, Jens said: > ok, diskeeper is free for nt4, not for 2000 (at least there is no diskeeper > lite for 2000...) and the nt-version isn't even instlling on 2000... > > but what about speeddisk2000 from norton or the good old oo-defrag?? > > they are found on >

Re: Defrag in Win2000 no good for FIPS

2000-10-10 Thread mike
I used a program called 'Diskeeper ' Defrag which was able to remove those end of drive directories from Win. Its commercial software but it was available on a free 30 day evaluation trial (don't know if it still is) from execsoft.com. On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:16:09

RE: Defrag in Win2000 no good for FIPS

2000-10-10 Thread Anderson, Tim TL33E
real advice is get a nice big hard drive :-) Tim -Original Message- From: Mike [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 10:53 PM To: debian user Subject:Re: Defrag in Win2000 no good for FIPS Matthew Sherborne wro

Re: Defrag in Win2000 no good for FIPS

2000-10-10 Thread Willy Lee
"Matthew" == Matthew Sherborne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does anyone know of a good defrag program for plain DOS or Win2000 > that won't leave directory entries at the end of the drive ? > I want to install Debian to share a Win2000 computer but, I can

Re: Defrag in Win2000 no good for FIPS

2000-10-09 Thread Mike
Matthew Sherborne wrote: > Does anyone know of a good defrag program for plain DOS or Win2000 that > won't leave directory entries at the end of the drive ? > > I want to install Debian to share a Win2000 computer but, I can't defrag the > drive to shift everything to

Defrag in Win2000 no good for FIPS

2000-10-09 Thread Matthew Sherborne
Does anyone know of a good defrag program for plain DOS or Win2000 that won't leave directory entries at the end of the drive ? I want to install Debian to share a Win2000 computer but, I can't defrag the drive to shift everything to the front. Matthew Sherborne <>

Re: problems with defrag 0.73

1999-08-26 Thread Jonathan H. Wheaton
That's correct. I've had filesystems for years that never get more than a few percent fragmentation. If you *really* want to do this, you need to copy e2fsck and defrag to a floppy and boot off the rescue disk. When the installation screen comes up, go to the option to start a shell

Re: problems with defrag 0.73

1999-08-23 Thread Cheshire
You sure you need to defrag? I forget where the info was drawn from before, but anyway, by nature of the e2 file system, it's quite the rarity that it needs to be defraged--one of those FAT habits I was glad to kick. |cheshire| -Original Message- From: Oliver Larisch <[EMAIL P

problems with defrag 0.73

1999-08-23 Thread Oliver Larisch
Hi ! I ve a little problem with defrag 0.73. I tried to e2defrag my root partition /dev/hda4 and defrag said: cannot work on mounted device. Then I 've tried to umount it but my system (debian 2.1 kernel 2.2.5) said: device is busy. I went to runlevel 1 in order to singelu

Re: defrag

1999-07-24 Thread Cheshire
Stephen Pitts wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 23, 1999 at 12:05:51PM -0600, Cheshire wrote: > > I wanted to defrag my file system but on the command 'defrag /dev/hda5' > > and 'e2defrag /dev/hda5' I get: [e2]defrag: bad magic number in > > super-block > >

Re: defrag

1999-07-24 Thread Stephen Pitts
On Fri, Jul 23, 1999 at 12:05:51PM -0600, Cheshire wrote: > I wanted to defrag my file system but on the command 'defrag /dev/hda5' > and 'e2defrag /dev/hda5' I get: [e2]defrag: bad magic number in > super-block > > Feedback welcome and appreciated. > Ar

defrag

1999-07-23 Thread Cheshire
I wanted to defrag my file system but on the command 'defrag /dev/hda5' and 'e2defrag /dev/hda5' I get: [e2]defrag: bad magic number in super-block Feedback welcome and appreciated. |cheshire|

Re: defrag

1999-05-10 Thread Raymond A. Ingles
On Mon, 10 May 1999, Kenneth Scharf wrote: > I installed the defrag package and read the man pages. I'm not sure > how to use this since my only filesystem is (usually) mounted, and > anyway the defrag executable is on that filesystem! I suppose I can > copy the executable t

defrag

1999-05-10 Thread Kenneth Scharf
I installed the defrag package and read the man pages. I'm not sure how to use this since my only filesystem is (usually) mounted, and anyway the defrag executable is on that filesystem! I suppose I can copy the executable to a floppy, go to single user mode and then unmount the filesyste

Re: defrag, non-contiguous file system

1999-05-09 Thread Vincent Murphy
so what should I do? i know that there is a package (in admin i think) called defrag, which you may want to take a look at. maybe there's something in the docs. -vinny

defrag, non-contiguous file system

1999-05-09 Thread Kenneth Scharf
Each time my system runs fsck on reboot (when the disk reaches it's mount count limit) the file system appears more fragmented. On the last fsck run it reported 5.7% non-contiguous. Is this a problem and if so what should I do? === Amateur Radio, when all else fails! http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze

Re: defrag

1999-04-29 Thread Dietmar Schultz
On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Micha Feigin wrote: > How do i go about running defrag on the system. pre1st: Read this and decide if you realy want to do so, 1st: Make a backup, 2nd: Make shure the filesystem isn't mounted, 3rd: Start e2defrag /dev/??? # ??? = hda2, sdb4 etc... > I ge

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1999-04-27 Thread Micha Feigin
How do i go about running defrag on the system. I get either an answear that it can't run on a mounted filsystem or that it can't work on the disk. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Re: W95 defrag [also lilo+Linux+Win98 FAT32]

1999-04-24 Thread Matt Folwell
On Fri, Apr 23, 1999 at 09:39:12PM -0400, Jan Muszynski wrote: > > > On 23 Apr 99, at 23:45, Matt Folwell > wrote about Re: W95 defrag [also lilo+Linux+Win: > > > Which FM did you find this is? I've been unable to boot windows from lilo > > /usr/docs/lilo/

Re: W95 defrag [also lilo+Linux+Win98 FAT32]

1999-04-24 Thread Jan Muszynski
On 23 Apr 99, at 23:45, Matt Folwell wrote about Re: W95 defrag [also lilo+Linux+Win: > On Thu, Apr 22, 1999 at 05:42:09PM -0500, Brad wrote: > > > For quite a while, Windows refused to boot at all from lilo. i finally > > solved the problem by using some obscure commands

Re: W95 defrag [also lilo+Linux+Win98 FAT32]

1999-04-23 Thread Matt Folwell
On Thu, Apr 22, 1999 at 05:42:09PM -0500, Brad wrote: > For quite a while, Windows refused to boot at all from lilo. i finally > solved the problem by using some obscure commands buried deep in TFM. > Probably you won't need them, but they're here for a reference anyway. > > other=/dev/hdb1 >

Re: W95 defrag

1999-04-23 Thread Ray
On Thu, Apr 22, 1999 at 06:03:27PM +0100, H C Pumphrey wrote: > > A related question: the Linux+Win95 mini-HOWTO says that if you have FAT32 > you should not try using LILO. Is this info up-to-date? I believe it's ok to use LILO but don't let it replace the MBR. Just install LILO on the same par

Re: W95 defrag

1999-04-22 Thread Colin Marquardt
* Holger Mense <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, H C Pumphrey wrote: >> Greetings, fellow Debian fans, >> >> This is only a proto-debian question, I'm afraid, but I have tried to >> RTFM, honest. I'm trying to defrag the disc o

Re: W95 defrag [also lilo+Linux+Win98 FAT32]

1999-04-22 Thread Brad
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, H C Pumphrey wrote: > > Greetings, fellow Debian fans, Greetings (: > This is only a proto-debian question, I'm afraid, but I have tried to > RTFM, honest. I'm trying to defrag the disc on a W95 laptop prior to using > FIPS to re-partition it so

Re: W95 defrag

1999-04-22 Thread Holger Mense
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, H C Pumphrey wrote: > Greetings, fellow Debian fans, > > This is only a proto-debian question, I'm afraid, but I have tried to > RTFM, honest. I'm trying to defrag the disc on a W95 laptop prior to using > FIPS to re-partition it so I can put Deb

W95 defrag

1999-04-22 Thread Kenneth Scharf
Turn file mirror off and then defrag again. === Amateur Radio, when all else fails! http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze Debian Gnu Linux, Live Free or . _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Re: W95 defrag

1999-04-22 Thread Alec Smith
> > This is only a proto-debian question, I'm afraid, but I have tried to > > RTFM, honest. I'm trying to defrag the disc on a W95 laptop prior to using > > FIPS to re-partition it so I can put Debian on it as well[1]. W95 defrag > > will move a lot of stuff (which i

Re: W95 defrag

1999-04-22 Thread Leen Besselink
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, H C Pumphrey wrote: > > Greetings, fellow Debian fans, > > This is only a proto-debian question, I'm afraid, but I have tried to > RTFM, honest. I'm trying to defrag the disc on a W95 laptop prior to using > FIPS to re-partition it so I ca

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