Re: debian architecture history question

2010-06-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Vi, 11 iun 10, 11:09:18, Aaron Toponce wrote: > Other than the kernel, which is compiled for 686 instruction sets, and > maybe a few core packages that would benefit from targeting the 686 > architecture, Debian compiles the rest of the packages against 386. AFAIR support for 386 was dropped

Re: debian architecture history question

2010-06-16 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Ron Johnson put forth on 6/15/2010 10:21 AM: > On 06/15/2010 04:34 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > [snip] >> >> Disclaimer: my comments below intentionally exclude x86-64 capable CPUs >> >> >> There are different kernels for different models of the Intel x86 >> processor >> family and compatibles, but

Re: debian architecture history question

2010-06-15 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 15 June 2010 10:21:06 Paul E Condon wrote: > But for these packages, if the > instruction set for the two classes of chip are the same, what is it that > is different from the point of view of the kernel software requirements? The micro-architecture. Basically, how the instruction set

Re: debian architecture history question

2010-06-15 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 15 June 2010 04:34:23 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Again, the differences in the various 32bit kernels have nothing to do with > the instruction sets being different. They are identical. Incorrect. The i486 lines of chip (486 architecture in gcc) supports CMPXCHG and 5 other instructions w

Re: debian architecture history question

2010-06-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/15/2010 04:34 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: [snip] Disclaimer: my comments below intentionally exclude x86-64 capable CPUs There are different kernels for different models of the Intel x86 processor family and compatibles, but make no mistake, they all use the same instruction set introduced

Re: debian architecture history question

2010-06-15 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100615_043423, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Aaron Toponce put forth on 6/14/2010 10:02 AM: > > On 6/12/2010 8:11 PM, Anand Sivaram wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 22:39, Aaron Toponce >> > wrote: > >> Other than the kernel, which is compiled for 686 instructi

Re: debian architecture history question

2010-06-15 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Aaron Toponce put forth on 6/14/2010 10:02 AM: > On 6/12/2010 8:11 PM, Anand Sivaram wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 22:39, Aaron Toponce > > wrote: >> Other than the kernel, which is compiled for 686 instruction sets, and >> maybe a few core packages that

Re: debian architecture history question

2010-06-14 Thread Aaron Toponce
On 6/12/2010 8:11 PM, Anand Sivaram wrote: > On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 22:39, Aaron Toponce > wrote: > Other than the kernel, which is compiled for 686 instruction sets, and > maybe a few core packages that would benefit from targeting the 686 > architectu

Re: debian architecture history question

2010-06-12 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/12/2010 09:11 PM, Anand Sivaram wrote: On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 22:39, Aaron Toponce mailto:aaron.topo...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 6/11/2010 11:03 AM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > I'm not exactly sure what the policy is for packages in the i386 archives in > general, but

Re: debian architecture history question

2010-06-12 Thread Anand Sivaram
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 22:39, Aaron Toponce wrote: > On 6/11/2010 11:03 AM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > I'm not exactly sure what the policy is for packages in the i386 archives > in > > general, but I believe they are supposed to have -586 or -686 in their > package > > name is they requir

Re: debian architecture history question

2010-06-11 Thread Aaron Toponce
On 6/11/2010 11:03 AM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > I'm not exactly sure what the policy is for packages in the i386 archives in > general, but I believe they are supposed to have -586 or -686 in their > package > name is they require those instruction sets. Some of the A/V codec libraries

Re: debian architecture history question

2010-06-11 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 11 June 2010 11:42:16 Paul E Condon wrote: > I'm in the process of working a bug on my desktop PC. The CPU is a > Semperon (32bit AMD). I recall that I once used i686. But now I think > I am using i386. When I make a bug report, reportbug includes the > line: > "Architecture: i386 (i686

Re: debian architecture history question

2010-06-11 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-06-11 18:42 +0200, Paul E Condon wrote: > I'm in the process of working a bug on my desktop PC. The CPU is a > Semperon (32bit AMD). I recall that I once used i686. But now I think > I am using i386. No, you always used the Debian architecture i386. The kernel may be built for a 686-co

Re: debian architecture history question

2010-06-11 Thread Jordan Metzmeier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 06/11/2010 12:42 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: > I'm in the process of working a bug on my desktop PC. The CPU is a > Semperon (32bit AMD). I recall that I once used i686. But now I think > I am using i386. When I make a bug report, reportbug include

debian architecture history question

2010-06-11 Thread Paul E Condon
I'm in the process of working a bug on my desktop PC. The CPU is a Semperon (32bit AMD). I recall that I once used i686. But now I think I am using i386. When I make a bug report, reportbug includes the line: "Architecture: i386 (i686)" I guess that i686 has somehow been merged into i386, but I