Re: debian 12 installers

2023-03-12 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Debian used to include xv, with patches and PNG support. I wonder how the xv license permitted this. The only trace i found is a dead link at "XV Jumbo Patches" http://www.gregroelofs.com/greg_xv.html "fully patched XV source code (but Debian has permission)" > un

Re: debian 12 installers

2023-03-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Mar 12, 2023 at 02:09:09PM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > So just for curiosity i tried what happens if i build xv on Debian 11. > > wget ftp://ftp.trilon.com/pub/xv/xv-3.10a.tar.gz > tar xzf xv-3.10a.tar.gz > cd xv-3.10a > view INSTALL Debian used to include xv, with patches and

Re: debian 12 installers

2023-03-12 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Van Snyder wrote: > > I use some old stuff such as xv Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > I can't see XV in modern Debian That's most probably because of its license terms as "shareware". I love it much and it turns out that my Debian 11 uses a binary which i made on a SuSE machine about 10 years ag

Re: debian 12 installers

2023-03-12 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 05:41:23PM -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > On Sat, 2023-03-11 at 18:32 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > The installation *process* > > doesn't change. After the base system has been installed, you're given a > > menu from which you can select additional software to install -- SSH

Re: debian 12 installers

2023-03-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 05:41:23PM -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > With other distributions, for example back when Scientific Linux > actually existed, the list of "additional software to install" provided > by the installer was much larger. It included development software, > publishing software, web s

Re: debian 12 installers

2023-03-11 Thread Van Snyder
On Sat, 2023-03-11 at 18:32 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > The installation *process* > doesn't change. After the base system has been installed, you're given a > menu from which you can select additional software to install -- SSH server, > various Desktop Environments, and so on > > After th

Re: debian 12 installers

2023-03-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 02:07:53PM -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > What's the "alpha2 installer?" > > I usually do a netinst. Then I have to install each thing I actually > use when I discover that it's not installed by netinst. > > I need development tools. I need LaTeX. I use some old stuff such as

Re: debian 12 installers

2023-03-11 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-03-11 23:19:56 +0100, digital...@gmx.de wrote: > Am Samstag, 11. März 2023, 23:07:53 CET schrieb Van Snyder: > > On Sat, 2023-03-11 at 22:26 +0100, digital...@gmx.de wrote: > > > My installation is a complete new one from the alpha2 installer. > > > > What's the "alpha2 installer?" > > >

Re: debian 12 installers

2023-03-11 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 02:07:53PM -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > On Sat, 2023-03-11 at 22:26 +0100, digital...@gmx.de wrote: > > My installation is a complete new one from the alpha2 installer. > > What's the "alpha2 installer?" > > I usually do a netinst. Then I have to install each thing I actuall

Re: debian 12 installers

2023-03-11 Thread digitalwop
Am Samstag, 11. März 2023, 23:07:53 CET schrieb Van Snyder: > On Sat, 2023-03-11 at 22:26 +0100, digital...@gmx.de wrote: > > My installation is a complete new one from the alpha2 installer. > > What's the "alpha2 installer?" > > I usually do a netinst. Then I have to install each thing I actuall

debian 12 installers

2023-03-11 Thread Van Snyder
On Sat, 2023-03-11 at 22:26 +0100, digital...@gmx.de wrote: > My installation is a complete new one from the alpha2 installer. What's the "alpha2 installer?" I usually do a netinst. Then I have to install each thing I actually use when I discover that it's not installed by netinst. I need develo