Hi.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 10:08:10PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Lu, 19 aug 19, 09:54:08, john doe wrote:
> > Hi Rico, thanks for your answer.
> > On 8/19/2019 9:37 AM, Reco wrote:
> > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 09:25:56AM +0200, john doe wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Here is the requested o
On Lu, 19 aug 19, 09:54:08, john doe wrote:
> Hi Rico, thanks for your answer.
> On 8/19/2019 9:37 AM, Reco wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 09:25:56AM +0200, john doe wrote:
> >>
> >> Here is the requested output from a test server:
> >>
> >> $ apt purge dbus -s
> > <...>
> >> dbus* libpam-sys
Le lundi 19 août 2019 à 10:15 -0400, Greg Wooledge a écrit :
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 11:41:33AM +0200, Bastien Durel wrote:
> > Ok, there muste have been an error somewhere ...
> >
> > root@corrin-2:~# apt-cache policy systemd-container
> > systemd-container:
> > Installed: (none)
> > Candid
On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 11:41:33AM +0200, Bastien Durel wrote:
> Ok, there muste have been an error somewhere ...
>
> root@corrin-2:~# apt-cache policy systemd-container
> systemd-container:
> Installed: (none)
> Candidate: 241-5
> Version table:
> 241-5 500
> 500 http://ftp.fr.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 11:41:33AM +0200, Bastien Durel wrote:
> Le lundi 19 août 2019 à 11:54 +0300, Reco a écrit :
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 10:23:54AM +0200, Bastien Durel wrote:
> > > Le lundi 19 août 2019 à 10:37 +0300, Reco a écrit :
> > > > > $ apt purge dbus -s
> > > > <.
Le lundi 19 août 2019 à 11:54 +0300, Reco a écrit :
> Hi.
>
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 10:23:54AM +0200, Bastien Durel wrote:
> > Le lundi 19 août 2019 à 10:37 +0300, Reco a écrit :
> > > > $ apt purge dbus -s
> > > <...>
> > > >dbus* libpam-systemd*
> > >
> > > So, dbus is not needed th
Hi.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 10:23:54AM +0200, Bastien Durel wrote:
> Le lundi 19 août 2019 à 10:37 +0300, Reco a écrit :
> > > $ apt purge dbus -s
> > <...>
> > >dbus* libpam-systemd*
> >
> > So, dbus is not needed there.
>
> Hello. Same here, but with dbus removed, my jobs using sys
Le lundi 19 août 2019 à 10:37 +0300, Reco a écrit :
> > $ apt purge dbus -s
> <...>
> >dbus* libpam-systemd*
>
> So, dbus is not needed there.
Hello. Same here, but with dbus removed, my jobs using systemd-nspawn
fails with:
Failed to open system bus: Connection refused
So testing your syst
On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 09:54:08AM +0200, john doe wrote:
> >> If things goes well on this server, which is a test server, I'll
> >> consider purging dbus from my production server(s) on which a reboot is
> >> to be avoided.
> >>
> >> Here is the requested output from a test server:
> >>
> >> $ apt
Hi Rico, thanks for your answer.
On 8/19/2019 9:37 AM, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 09:25:56AM +0200, john doe wrote:
>> On 8/18/2019 4:59 PM, Reco wrote:
>>> On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 04:56:34PM +0200, john doe wrote:
On 8/18/2019 3:19 PM, Brian wrote:
> On Sun 18 Au
Hi.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 09:25:56AM +0200, john doe wrote:
> On 8/18/2019 4:59 PM, Reco wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 04:56:34PM +0200, john doe wrote:
> >> On 8/18/2019 3:19 PM, Brian wrote:
> >>> On Sun 18 Aug 2019 at 12:17:59 +0200, john doe wrote:
> >>>
> On 8/17/2019 8:15
On 8/18/2019 4:59 PM, Reco wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 04:56:34PM +0200, john doe wrote:
>> On 8/18/2019 3:19 PM, Brian wrote:
>>> On Sun 18 Aug 2019 at 12:17:59 +0200, john doe wrote:
>>>
On 8/17/2019 8:15 PM, Brian wrote:
> On Tue 13 Aug 2019 at 20:07:49 +0200, john doe wrote:
>
On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 04:56:34PM +0200, john doe wrote:
> On 8/18/2019 3:19 PM, Brian wrote:
> > On Sun 18 Aug 2019 at 12:17:59 +0200, john doe wrote:
> >
> >> On 8/17/2019 8:15 PM, Brian wrote:
> >>> On Tue 13 Aug 2019 at 20:07:49 +0200, john doe wrote:
> >>>
> Hi,
>
> While upgra
On 8/18/2019 3:19 PM, Brian wrote:
> On Sun 18 Aug 2019 at 12:17:59 +0200, john doe wrote:
>
>> On 8/17/2019 8:15 PM, Brian wrote:
>>> On Tue 13 Aug 2019 at 20:07:49 +0200, john doe wrote:
>>>
Hi,
While upgrading the dbus deamon, I get the following:
"A reboot is required t
On Sun 18 Aug 2019 at 12:17:59 +0200, john doe wrote:
> On 8/17/2019 8:15 PM, Brian wrote:
> > On Tue 13 Aug 2019 at 20:07:49 +0200, john doe wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> While upgrading the dbus deamon, I get the following:
> >>
> >> "A reboot is required to replace the running dbus-daemon.
> >>
On 8/17/2019 8:15 PM, Brian wrote:
> On Tue 13 Aug 2019 at 20:07:49 +0200, john doe wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> While upgrading the dbus deamon, I get the following:
>>
>> "A reboot is required to replace the running dbus-daemon.
>> Please reboot the system when convenient."
>>
>>
>> I have no plan to re
On Tue 13 Aug 2019 at 20:07:49 +0200, john doe wrote:
> Hi,
>
> While upgrading the dbus deamon, I get the following:
>
> "A reboot is required to replace the running dbus-daemon.
> Please reboot the system when convenient."
>
>
> I have no plan to reboot that server, what are the pros and con
On Sat 17 Aug 2019 at 12:59:16 +0300, Reco wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 11:23:48PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> >
> > ipptool depends on libcups2.
>
> Which does not make it require CUPS on the other side - [2].
> And note - a conventional RFC1918 IP is used there. No "discovery"
> involved.
Anyth
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 11:23:48PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 22:39:09 +0300, Reco wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 07:14:58PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > > On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 09:51:15 +0300, Reco wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 08:47:34PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> >
On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 22:39:09 +0300, Reco wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 07:14:58PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 09:51:15 +0300, Reco wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 08:47:34PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > >
> > > > Nowadays that system often relies on printer/print queue
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 07:14:58PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 09:51:15 +0300, Reco wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 08:47:34PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> >
> > > Nowadays that system often relies on printer/print queue Bonjour
> > > broadcasts.
> >
> > And that is called "jumping
On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 09:51:15 +0300, Reco wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 08:47:34PM +0100, Brian wrote:
>
> > Nowadays that system often relies on printer/print queue Bonjour
> > broadcasts.
>
> And that is called "jumping to conclusions".
> Printing itself haven't changed a bit for last 15 y
On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 08:39:43 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 09:53:20AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:36:57PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > > On Thu 15 Aug 2019 at 22:15:59 +0100, Tixy wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, 2019-08-15 at 19:41 +0100, Brian wrote:
> > >
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 09:53:20AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:36:57PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Thu 15 Aug 2019 at 22:15:59 +0100, Tixy wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 2019-08-15 at 19:41 +0100, Brian wrote:
> > > > The fact remains that dbus is not a DE only package. How did anyone
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 12:46:17PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 13:21:11 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > I'm getting old, so this piqued somewhat my vanity. I double-checked:
[...]
> It's a fair cop!
:-)
Cheers
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On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 13:21:11 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 12:15:18PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 13:01:10 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > > No, I didn't get that idea -- wasn't it you who reminded us that CUPS
> > > doesn't require a
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 12:15:18PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 13:01:10 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
[...]
> > No, I didn't get that idea -- wasn't it you who reminded us that CUPS
> > doesn't require avahi-daemon?
>
> I don't think so; not in this thread anyway.
I'm getting o
On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 13:01:10 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 11:54:50AM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 11:48:30 +0100, Brian wrote:
> >
> > > On my print server with buster:
> > >
> > > root@futro:~# apt purge dbus
> > > Reading package lists...
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 11:54:50AM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 11:48:30 +0100, Brian wrote:
>
> > On my print server with buster:
> >
> > root@futro:~# apt purge dbus
> > Reading package lists... Done
> > Building dependency tree
> > Reading state informatio
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 11:48:30AM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 12:24:14 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 11:03:41AM +0100, Brian wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus/
> > ^^^
> >
> > ;-)
>
On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 11:48:30 +0100, Brian wrote:
> On my print server with buster:
>
> root@futro:~# apt purge dbus
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
> dbus* l
On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 12:24:14 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 11:03:41AM +0100, Brian wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus/
> ^^^
>
> ;-)
DE - Desktop *Environment*. A case of selective censorship? :)
> [...]
>
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 11:03:41AM +0100, Brian wrote:
[...]
> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus/
^^^
;-)
[...]
> As Reco said:
>
> > If you don't need it - just uninstall it.
>
> What do you get for 'apt purge dbus'?
Not the OP, but here's mine:
toma
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 11:06:43AM +0200, john doe wrote:
[...]
> Okay, as far as I understand it, depends means that it will be pulled as
> an dependency but not that it is required for it to work properly.
> What I'm starting to realise is that to much dependencies are pulled to
> implement lot
On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 09:51:15 +0300, Reco wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 08:47:34PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Thu 15 Aug 2019 at 21:05:10 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 07:41:06PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > >
> > > > I wouldn't try to dissuade anyone from using l
On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 11:06:43 +0200, john doe wrote:
> On 8/15/2019 6:52 PM, Brian wrote:
> > On Wed 14 Aug 2019 at 07:36:21 +0200, john doe wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Rico, and thanks for your answer.
> >>
> >> On 8/13/2019 9:25 PM, Reco wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 08:07:49PM +0200, john doe wr
On 8/15/2019 6:52 PM, Brian wrote:
> On Wed 14 Aug 2019 at 07:36:21 +0200, john doe wrote:
>
>> Hi Rico, and thanks for your answer.
>>
>> On 8/13/2019 9:25 PM, Reco wrote:
>>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 08:07:49PM +0200, john doe wrote:
I have no plan to reboot that server, what are the pros and
On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:36:57PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Thu 15 Aug 2019 at 22:15:59 +0100, Tixy wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 2019-08-15 at 19:41 +0100, Brian wrote:
> > > The fact remains that dbus is not a DE only package. How did anyone
> > > get the idea it was?
> >
> > Perhaps because D-Bus stand
On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 08:47:34PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Thu 15 Aug 2019 at 21:05:10 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 07:41:06PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> >
> > > I wouldn't try to dissuade anyone from using last century's
> > > technology
> > > if they have their heart s
On Thu 15 Aug 2019 at 22:15:59 +0100, Tixy wrote:
> On Thu, 2019-08-15 at 19:41 +0100, Brian wrote:
> > The fact remains that dbus is not a DE only package. How did anyone
> > get the idea it was?
>
> Perhaps because D-Bus stands for Desktop Bus and according to Wikipedia
> [1]
>
>D-Bus was
On Thu, 2019-08-15 at 19:41 +0100, Brian wrote:
> The fact remains that dbus is not a DE only package. How did anyone
> get the idea it was?
Perhaps because D-Bus stands for Desktop Bus and according to Wikipedia
[1]
D-Bus was developed as part of the freedesktop.org project [...] to
standa
On Thu 15 Aug 2019 at 21:05:10 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 07:41:06PM +0100, Brian wrote:
>
> > I wouldn't try to dissuade anyone from using last century's technology
> > if they have their heart set on it [...]
>
> C'mon. You /know/ you're talking nonsense. Old is o
On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 07:41:06PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> I wouldn't try to dissuade anyone from using last century's technology
> if they have their heart set on it [...]
C'mon. You /know/ you're talking nonsense. Old is old, and new is new.
Beyond that...
BTW I still use TeX, so... 1980s. Works
On Thu 15 Aug 2019 at 19:14:19 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 05:52:39PM +0100, Brian wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Those setting up a print server would likely not see a corner case here.
>
> CUPS depends on avahi depends somehow on dbus. Try some day lprng,
> works a charm
On Thu 15 Aug 2019 at 19:14:19 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 05:52:39PM +0100, Brian wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Those setting up a print server would likely not see a corner case here.
>
> CUPS depends on avahi depends somehow on dbus. Try some day lprng,
> works a charm
On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 05:52:39PM +0100, Brian wrote:
[...]
> Those setting up a print server would likely not see a corner case here.
CUPS depends on avahi depends somehow on dbus. Try some day lprng,
works a charm :-)
Cheers
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On Wed 14 Aug 2019 at 07:36:21 +0200, john doe wrote:
> Hi Rico, and thanks for your answer.
>
> On 8/13/2019 9:25 PM, Reco wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 08:07:49PM +0200, john doe wrote:
> >> I have no plan to reboot that server, what are the pros and cons of not
> >> doing that
> >
> > Pro
On 2019-08-14, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 08:58:56AM +0200, Sven Hartge wrote:
>> Reco wrote:
>>
>> > 1) libpam-systemd, loginctl and friends.
>> > Useful for a workstation, useless for a server.
>>
>> I wouldn't go this far. libpam-systemd and loginctl can be useful on
Hi.
On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 08:58:56AM +0200, Sven Hartge wrote:
> Reco wrote:
>
> > 1) libpam-systemd, loginctl and friends.
> > Useful for a workstation, useless for a server.
>
> I wouldn't go this far. libpam-systemd and loginctl can be useful on a
> server, depening on its job and
Reco wrote:
> 1) libpam-systemd, loginctl and friends.
> Useful for a workstation, useless for a server.
I wouldn't go this far. libpam-systemd and loginctl can be useful on a
server, depening on its job and role.
Grüße,
Sven.
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Hi.
On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 07:36:21AM +0200, john doe wrote:
> > dbus is not mandatory and is redundant for typical server software.
> > If you don't need it - just uninstall it. Simple as that.
>
> okay, dbus is only required when a DE (Gnome,Mate, ...) is present.
> If I'm correct, and
Hi Rico, and thanks for your answer.
On 8/13/2019 9:25 PM, Reco wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 08:07:49PM +0200, john doe wrote:
>> I have no plan to reboot that server, what are the pros and cons of not
>> doing that
>
> Pro: keeping uptime
> Con: keeping previous, possibly buggy, version for d
On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 08:07:49PM +0200, john doe wrote:
> I have no plan to reboot that server, what are the pros and cons of not
> doing that
Pro: keeping uptime
Con: keeping previous, possibly buggy, version for dbus running.
> or how can I avoid rebooting altogether?
dbus is not mandatory a
Hi,
While upgrading the dbus deamon, I get the following:
"A reboot is required to replace the running dbus-daemon.
Please reboot the system when convenient."
I have no plan to reboot that server, what are the pros and cons of not
doing that or how can I avoid rebooting altogether?
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