Status of ISC Stork (monitoring daemon to ISC Kea) in Debian

2024-01-06 Thread Ralph Aichinger
Hi everybody! Normally I am quite good at finding out if and why not something is packaged in Debian, but I have not found any information about ISC Stork, basically an optional accessory to ISC Kea. While migrating to Kea from ISC dhcpd, I noticed that this component is not packaged Or have I o

Re: Security question about daemon-init

2023-08-29 Thread Darac Marjal
:11): avc:  denied  { getattr } for  pid=3104 comm="daemon-init" path="/home/bcv/.thunderbird" dev="dm-5" ino=257 scontext=system_u:system_r:virtd_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:thunderbird_home_t:s0 tclass=lnk_file permissive=0 I am not sure why on earth

Security question about daemon-init

2023-08-29 Thread Bhasker C V
comm="daemon-init" path="/home/bcv/.thunderbird" dev="dm-5" ino=257 scontext=system_u:system_r:virtd_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:thunderbird_home_t:s0 tclass=lnk_file permissive=0 I am not sure why on earth would daemon-init try to read .thunderbird directory

Re: transmission-daemon Out of Memory

2022-09-29 Thread Jiri Kanicky
Thank you. On 29/9/22 13:37, John Verhoeven wrote: On Thursday, 29 September 2022 10:48:43 AM AWST Jiri Kanicky wrote: I updated debian sid recently and the process is being killed after a half of a day. Sep 26 04:33:33 server kernel: Out of memory: Killed process 16702 (transmission-da) total

Re: transmission-daemon Out of Memory

2022-09-28 Thread John Verhoeven
On Thursday, 29 September 2022 10:48:43 AM AWST Jiri Kanicky wrote: > I updated debian sid recently and the process is being killed after a > half of a day. > > Sep 26 04:33:33 server kernel: Out of memory: Killed process 16702 > (transmission-da) total-vm:4933944kB, anon-rss:3566896kB, file-rss:0

transmission-daemon Out of Memory

2022-09-28 Thread Jiri Kanicky
I updated debian sid recently and the process is being killed after a half of a day. Sep 26 04:33:33 server kernel: Out of memory: Killed process 16702 (transmission-da) total-vm:4933944kB, anon-rss:3566896kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:0kB, UID:133 pgtables:7928kB oom_score_adj:0d Any ideas?

Re: avahi-daemon allow/deny interfaces question

2022-07-15 Thread Ram Ramesh
lem. Earlier, I was trying to keep the interface alive with "ping -i 60 xxx"  instead of setting "/sys/usb/ power/control" to "on". Not sure if that was not enough and $extif actually powered off in between pings and avahi-daemon was simply reporting this in daemon

Re: avahi-daemon allow/deny interfaces question

2022-07-14 Thread Ram Ramesh
interface alive with "ping -i 60 xxx"  instead of setting "/sys/usb/ power/control" to "on". Not sure if that was not enough and $extif actually powered off in between pings and avahi-daemon was simply reporting this in daemon.log. However, kernel reset the inte

Re: avahi-daemon allow/deny interfaces question

2022-07-14 Thread Ram Ramesh
Hi Ramesh, There are numerous reports (mostly old, afaics) of the issue you describe, but with various suggested reasons. I suspect the avahi related part is a consequence rather than a cause - I didn't think avahi was capable of disabling interfaces, the message looks like it's updating a ta

Re: avahi-daemon allow/deny interfaces question

2022-07-13 Thread Gareth Evans
On Thu 14 Jul 2022, at 01:03, Ram Ramesh wrote: [...] > I take back some of what I said. It is both - I mean usb > autosupend+avahi_daemon. I need to keep the adaptor from autosuspending > and tell avahi-daemon not to disable the interface in the OS. > > I also found the power/c

Re: avahi-daemon allow/deny interfaces question

2022-07-13 Thread Ram Ramesh
,  This is what I find in daemon.log Jul 12 18:27:16 new-yoda avahi-daemon[441]: Withdrawing address record for fe80::daeb:97ff:febf:5ad0 on enxd8eb97bf5ad0. Jul 12 18:27:16 new-yoda avahi-daemon[441]: Withdrawing address record for 192.168.1.124 on enxd8eb97bf5ad0. After this happens, most of

Re: avahi-daemon allow/deny interfaces question

2022-07-13 Thread Ram Ramesh
) since debian 5.0.7. I have not upgraded that machine as it is working fine. However that hardware is too old (10+ years) and I wanted to replace it with something more modern running latest OS and that is why I built the above machine.  My old machine does not seem have avahi-daemon. So, it runs

Re: avahi-daemon allow/deny interfaces question

2022-07-13 Thread Gareth Evans
On Wed 13 Jul 2022, at 01:21, Ram Ramesh wrote: > Do you know a simple way to disable autopowerdown of > just this usb NIC? May be there is something that I can do with ethtool? I wonder if powertop may be of use here. It has a "tunables" section where (I think) power-saving features can be

Re: avahi-daemon allow/deny interfaces question

2022-07-12 Thread Ram Ramesh
that machine as it is working fine. However that hardware is too old (10+ years) and I wanted to replace it with something more modern running latest OS and that is why I built the above machine.  My old machine does not seem have avahi-daemon. So, it runs fine. However, my new machine has

Re: avahi-daemon allow/deny interfaces question

2022-07-12 Thread Gareth Evans
> On 11 Jul 2022, at 17:48, Ram Ramesh wrote: [...] > . However, my new machine has this daemon running which notices that $extif > does not have much activity and disables it after some timeout idle time. > Today I noticed that my $extif is vanishing and /var/log/daemon.log s

avahi-daemon allow/deny interfaces question

2022-07-11 Thread Ram Ramesh
. However that hardware is too old (10+ years) and I wanted to replace it with something more modern running latest OS and that is why I built the above machine.  My old machine does not seem have avahi-daemon. So, it runs fine. However, my new machine has this daemon running which notices that

Re: cups/avahi-daemon - worrying logs

2022-03-16 Thread Richard Hector
ng log messages like these: Mar  7 15:47:47 whio avahi-daemon[310]: Record [Brother\032HL-2140\032\064\032whio._ipps._tcp.local#011IN#011SRV 0 0 631 whio.local ; ttl=120] not fitting in legacy unicast packet, dropping. Mar  7 15:47:47 whio avahi-daemon[310]: Record [whio.local#011IN#011 fe80:

Re: cups/avahi-daemon - worrying logs

2022-03-16 Thread mick crane
7:47 whio avahi-daemon[310]: Record [Brother\032HL-2140\032\064\032whio._ipps._tcp.local#011IN#011SRV 0 0 631 whio.local ; ttl=120] not fitting in legacy unicast packet, dropping. Mar  7 15:47:47 whio avahi-daemon[310]: Record [whio.local#011IN#011 fe80::3e4a:92ff:fed3:9e16 ; ttl=120] not fi

Re: cups/avahi-daemon - worrying logs

2022-03-16 Thread Richard Hector
On 8/03/22 13:25, Richard Hector wrote: Hi all, I've recently set up a small box to run cups, to provide network access to a USB-only printer. It's a 32-bit machine running bullseye. I'm seeing log messages like these: Mar  7 15:47:47 whio avahi-daemon[310]: Record [Brother

cups/avahi-daemon - worrying logs

2022-03-07 Thread Richard Hector
Hi all, I've recently set up a small box to run cups, to provide network access to a USB-only printer. It's a 32-bit machine running bullseye. I'm seeing log messages like these: Mar 7 15:47:47 whio avahi-daemon[310]: Record [Brother\032HL-2140\032\064\032whio._ipps._

Re: minimize daemon downtime for apt upgrade

2021-04-08 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 01:47:22PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 10:46:06 -0500 > Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > > > If I wait for a few months to perform an "apt upgrade", many packages > > get upgraded. > > ... > > > Is there something more elegant? > > As Dan Ritter already m

Re: minimize daemon downtime for apt upgrade

2021-04-08 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 10:46:06 -0500 Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > If I wait for a few months to perform an "apt upgrade", many packages > get upgraded. ... > Is there something more elegant? As Dan Ritter already mentioned, you can configure a failover DHCP server, usually a good idea anyway. Why a

Re: minimize daemon downtime for apt upgrade

2021-04-08 Thread Joe
On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 10:46:06 -0500 Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > Greetings! > > Scenario: > > I have a Sid desktop computer that acts as a router for my home > network. > > If I wait for a few months to perform an "apt upgrade", many packages > get upgraded. > Not offering an answer, but if you're

Re: minimize daemon downtime for apt upgrade

2021-04-08 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 10:46:06AM -0500, Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > Greetings! > > Scenario: > > I have a Sid desktop computer that acts as a router for my home network. > > If I wait for a few months to perform an "apt upgrade", many packages get > upgraded. > > The upgrade starts with shutting

Re: minimize daemon downtime for apt upgrade

2021-04-08 Thread Dan Ritter
Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > I have a Sid desktop computer that acts as a router for my home network. I have a Stable mini-ITX "desktop" computer that acts as a router for my home network. > If I wait for a few months to perform an "apt upgrade", many packages get > upgraded. I use apticron to auto

minimize daemon downtime for apt upgrade

2021-04-08 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
Greetings! Scenario: I have a Sid desktop computer that acts as a router for my home network. If I wait for a few months to perform an "apt upgrade", many packages get upgraded. The upgrade starts with shutting down isc-dhcp-server (in order to upgrade it), then starts to upgrade all the packag

Re: IPv6 prefix delegation: avahi-daemon vs dhcpcd vs kernel

2019-07-29 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 29/07/2019 à 13:08, Pascal Hambourg a écrit : Prefix delegation is a DHCPv6 feature. The kernel does managed it. Oops ! I meant "the kernel does NOT manage it".

Re: IPv6 prefix delegation: avahi-daemon vs dhcpcd vs kernel

2019-07-29 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 29/07/2019 à 11:07, Harald Dunkel a écrit : question about IPv6 support in sid: Whose job is it to bother about the IPv6 addresses dynamically bound to eth0? It depends what dynamic configuration method is used. SLAAC (using router advertisements) is in kernelspace. However some informatio

Re: IPv6 prefix delegation: avahi-daemon vs dhcpcd vs kernel

2019-07-29 Thread Reco
the kernel sees the prefix delegation on eth0, sets the > old IPv6 address to "deprecated" and registers the new one. How > comes that avahi daemon and dhcpcd and possibly others interfere? I won't say anything about the avahi (don't see the need to install it), but I'

IPv6 prefix delegation: avahi-daemon vs dhcpcd vs kernel

2019-07-29 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, question about IPv6 support in sid: Whose job is it to bother about the IPv6 addresses dynamically bound to eth0? AFAIU the kernel sees the prefix delegation on eth0, sets the old IPv6 address to "deprecated" and registers the new one. How comes that avahi daemon and

Cron Daemon - LibClamAV errors

2018-07-16 Thread Hubert Hauser
Good afternoon! I have been receiving since a long time following mails: From: Cron Daemon Subject: Cron test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily ) To: r...@autisticstory.net /etc/cron.daily/clamscan_daily: Starting a daily scan of / directory.  Amount

Re: Lite SMTP server/daemon

2018-05-08 Thread Steve Kemp
> >qpsmtpd? It is small, plugin-based, and also written in Perl. > I couldn't discern, BTW, whether it supports TLS / SSL to an > upstream MTA? I did find this thread: > > http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.qpsmtpd/2005/07/msg3404.html That thread, I think, is about presenting TLS to t

avahi-daemon: Failed to open /etc/resolv.conf: Invalid argument chroot.c: open() failed: No such file or directory

2018-02-04 Thread Curt
I'm getting the error avahi-daemon: Failed to open /etc/resolv.conf: Invalid argument chroot.c: open() failed: No such file or directory at boot. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=800643 Is the workaround mentioned above (and below) still valid (bug date Oct

Re: How to get ssh to run in daemon script

2016-11-28 Thread Russell Gadd
eeded to send a root public key to the NAS to get it to accept the connection when run from the daemon. /root/.ssh/authorized_keys in the NAS (running some version of Linux) only had the normal user public key. Thanks to all for the replies.

Re: How to get ssh to run in daemon script

2016-11-28 Thread Richard Hector
On 27/11/16 23:55, Russell Gadd wrote: > So I'm scrambling around in the dark. Currently my vague ideas as to > what might be wrong are: > > script doesn't know what nasbox is (it is defined in /etc/hosts) You could test that by using the IP address > ssh is being run without being associated as

Re: How to get ssh to run in daemon script

2016-11-27 Thread Russell Gadd
On 27/11/16 13:00, Nemeth Gyorgy wrote: ... What user runs the daemon? If it is a separate user then run the ssh with that user interactively. If the user does not have the ~/.ssh/known_hosts file or the destination host is not in it, then you will have problems. I've now discovered tha

Re: How to get ssh to run in daemon script

2016-11-27 Thread Nemeth Gyorgy
2016-11-27 11:55 keltezéssel, Russell Gadd írta: I am trying to add a command into a script to shut down my NAS when the UPS detects a power loss. There is a daemon apcupsd which gets a signal from the UPS and runs various scripts which can be modified by the user. I have a script doshutdown

How to get ssh to run in daemon script

2016-11-27 Thread Russell Gadd
I am trying to add a command into a script to shut down my NAS when the UPS detects a power loss. There is a daemon apcupsd which gets a signal from the UPS and runs various scripts which can be modified by the user. I have a script doshutdown as follows #!/bin/sh ... various messages and

Re: [solved] C program launched by start-stop-daemon fails to catch signals

2016-05-07 Thread CN
On Sat, May 7, 2016, at 02:43 PM, Christian Seiler wrote: > > No, it does catch the signal without a problem. But start-stop-daemon > closes the standard filedescriptors and replaces them with /dev/null. > > Try it: > > /tmp/t.sh start > ps ax | grep a.out > lsof -p

Re: C program launched by start-stop-daemon fails to catch signals

2016-05-06 Thread Christian Seiler
On 05/07/2016 06:39 AM, CN wrote: > The following compilable C++ program catches signals as expected if it > runs directly from shell /tmp/a.out. > > However, this program fails to catch any signal and silently terminates > if it is fired by Debian's start-stop-daemon. N

C program launched by start-stop-daemon fails to catch signals

2016-05-06 Thread CN
The following compilable C++ program catches signals as expected if it runs directly from shell /tmp/a.out. However, this program fails to catch any signal and silently terminates if it is fired by Debian's start-stop-daemon. (My real life multiple threaded program does not silently termi

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-28 Thread Mart van de Wege
Dennis Wicks writes: > Mart van de Wege wrote on 07/27/2015 12:49 AM: >> Gary Dale writes: >> >>> On 26/07/15 02:44 PM, Mart van de Wege wrote: Gary Dale writes: >>> Upgrading to sid is asking for trouble. Sid isn't called unstable for >>> nothing. >> >> I know. I really do. I only ha

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-27 Thread Dennis Wicks
Mart van de Wege wrote on 07/27/2015 12:49 AM: Gary Dale writes: On 26/07/15 02:44 PM, Mart van de Wege wrote: Gary Dale writes: Upgrading to sid is asking for trouble. Sid isn't called unstable for nothing. I know. I really do. I only have been running Debian since potato. On the other

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-27 Thread Dennis Wicks
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote on 07/26/2015 03:40 PM: On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 15:27:50 -0500 John Hasler wrote: I want to be able to set the time if for some reason the clock is completely incorrect (this occurred from time to time in the past). Use your wristwatch. Or better, your cellphone or G

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Mart van de Wege
Gary Dale writes: > On 26/07/15 02:44 PM, Mart van de Wege wrote: >> Gary Dale writes: >> > Upgrading to sid is asking for trouble. Sid isn't called unstable for > nothing. I know. I really do. I only have been running Debian since potato. On the other hand, someone's gotta run Sid, or it'll ne

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Gary Dale
On 26/07/15 02:44 PM, Mart van de Wege wrote: Gary Dale writes: I haven't had any significant problems with systemd but then I waited several months before upgrading my servers to jessie and before upgrading my workstation to stretch. Maybe it's because of MS-DO but I've learned to wait for th

Re: OT Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 09:34:46PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 07/26/2015 at 08:51 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 12:02:07PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: > > >> Much of this discussion reminds me of an old Monty Python skit > >> ending with the line "Lucky we didn't say a

Re: OT Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread The Wanderer
On 07/26/2015 at 08:51 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 12:02:07PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: >> Much of this discussion reminds me of an old Monty Python skit >> ending with the line "Lucky we didn't say anything about the dirty >> knife". :) > > IIRC, it was a dirty fork. N

Re: OT Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 12:02:07PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: > On 26/07/15 10:45 AM, John Hasler wrote: > >>It may have been an X-Y question, but the answer to the question > >>actually asked, was "ntp". > >That is *an* answer. The full answer is that the Chrony and Ntp > >packages provide time daem

Re: OT Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015, Gary Dale wrote: Much of this discussion reminds me of an old Monty Python skit ending with the line "Lucky we didn't say anything about the dirty knife". :) I don't recall that bit, but then NO ONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION! Recently I checked out the price of

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015, John Hasler wrote: Systemd-timesyncd is not a replacement for Ntpd or Chrony. It is just an SNTP client similar to that used by Microsoft. It queries a single server and does no error checking or authentication. Basically, it replaces a cron job running Ntpdate. A ver

Re: OT Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: The question was: "What package contains the time daemon?" It may have been an X-Y question, but the answer to the question actually asked, was "ntp". You are (again) stunningly correct Lisi. I don't seem to have been able

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
John Hasler wrote: The Wanderer writes: The original question was "What package contains the daemon that updates the time from a central site?". The ntp package contains such a daemon - indeed, until systemd, almost certainly the primary such daemon. The chrony package provi

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-07-26 15:27:50 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Vincent Lefevre writes: > > I want to be able to set the time if for some reason the clock is > > completely incorrect (this occurred from time to time in the past). > > Use your wristwatch. This may be too late. The machine doesn't warn when the

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Ron
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 15:27:50 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > > I want to be able to set the time if for some reason the clock is > > completely incorrect (this occurred from time to time in the past). > > Use your wristwatch. Or better, your cellphone or GPS receiver. Cheers, Ron. --

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread John Hasler
Vincent Lefevre writes: > I want to be able to set the time if for some reason the clock is > completely incorrect (this occurred from time to time in the past). Use your wristwatch. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debia

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Vincent Lefevre
hat the authentication system is Autokey, but see above. > > Even without it, though, sucessfully spoofing all four of the servers > > you use would be challenging. > > > I don't see why this would be difficult for someone who controls the > > local network (e.g. the wifi

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-07-26 14:45:57 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sun 26 Jul 2015 at 15:39:48 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > IMHO, it is bad to be forced to uninstall a package just to make > > some other package work. > > Like not being able to have postfix/exim4 and cups/lprng on a machine at > the same time,

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Mart van de Wege
Gary Dale writes: > I haven't had any significant problems with systemd but then I waited > several months before upgrading my servers to jessie and before > upgrading my workstation to stretch. Maybe it's because of MS-DO but > I've learned to wait for the .1 release before upgrading. :) I actu

Re: What package contains the time daemon? (approx vs ntp)

2015-07-26 Thread Gary Dale
On 26/07/15 12:47 PM, Dennis Wicks wrote: Paul E Condon wrote on 07/26/2015 10:14 AM: On 20150726_0252-0700, anxious...@gmail.com wrote: Also years ago, and still today, there is approx which does a much more sophisticated analysis of the data stream of repeated queries of an ntp server. In

Re: What package contains the time daemon? (approx vs ntp)

2015-07-26 Thread Dennis Wicks
Paul E Condon wrote on 07/26/2015 10:14 AM: On 20150726_0252-0700, anxious...@gmail.com wrote: Also years ago, and still today, there is approx which does a much more sophisticated analysis of the data stream of repeated queries of an ntp server. In addition to setting the local clock to the

Re: OT Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Gary Dale
On 26/07/15 10:45 AM, John Hasler wrote: It may have been an X-Y question, but the answer to the question actually asked, was "ntp". That is *an* answer. The full answer is that the Chrony and Ntp packages provide time daemons. Systemd-timesyncd provides an SNTP client which is probably adequa

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Gary Dale
On 26/07/15 08:57 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 26 July 2015 13:17:02 Renaud OLGIATI wrote: On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 10:54:35 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: But that is for wheezy and earlier. systemd is, of course, different. Maybe the list should implement a rule, that people asking a question tel

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Sven Hartge
Sven Hartge wrote: >> /lib/systemd/system/systemd-timesyncd.service.d/disable-with-time-daemon.conf > That one is not present in Sid. Ah, -ENOCOFFEE, I meant of course "That one is not present in Jessie." S° -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ.

Re: What package contains the time daemon? (approx vs ntp)

2015-07-26 Thread Nicolas George
L'octidi 8 thermidor, an CCXXIII, Paul E Condon a écrit : > Also years ago, and still today, there is chrony which does a much > more sophisticated analysis of the data stream of repeated queries of > an ntp server. In addition to setting the local clock to the > same time as the external reference

Re: What package contains the time daemon? (approx vs ntp)

2015-07-26 Thread John Hasler
Paul E Condon writes: > Also years ago, and still today, there is approx which does a much > more sophisticated analysis of the data stream of repeated queries of > an ntp server. In addition to setting the local clock to the same time > as the external reference clock as is done by both ntp and nt

Re: What package contains the time daemon? (CHRONY not approx vs ntp)

2015-07-26 Thread Paul E Condon
REPLACE approx with chrony in the following; > Also years ago, and still today, there is approx which does a much > more sophisticated analysis of the data stream of repeated queries of > an ntp server. In addition to setting the local clock to the > same time as the external reference clock as is

Re: What package contains the time daemon? (approx vs ntp)

2015-07-26 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150726_0252-0700, anxious...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sunday, 26 July 2015 05:30:04 UTC+1, CaT wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 11:32:53PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > It is, once ntpdate has slammed the correct time into the system at boot > > > time, then ntp takes over. > > > > Unless

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread John Hasler
n without it, though, sucessfully spoofing all four of the servers > you use would be challenging. > I don't see why this would be difficult for someone who controls the > local network (e.g. the wifi hotspot). If your laptop needs precise time and you are a target for such attacks tak

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Lisi Reisz
ting an error message about PID 0. As in this (left hand edge is missing): # aptitude reinstall tdm-trinity up tdm-trinity 94:14.0.1~pre21-0debian8.0.0.2~a)... top-daemon:pid value must be a number greater than 0 start-stop-daemon --help for more information ---

Re: OT Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread John Hasler
> It may have been an X-Y question, but the answer to the question > actually asked, was "ntp". That is *an* answer. The full answer is that the Chrony and Ntp packages provide time daemons. Systemd-timesyncd provides an SNTP client which is probably adequate for most users. -- John Hasler jha

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread John Hasler
Systemd-timesyncd is not a replacement for Ntpd or Chrony. It is just an SNTP client similar to that used by Microsoft. It queries a single server and does no error checking or authentication. Basically, it replaces a cron job running Ntpdate. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 26.07.2015 um 14:57 schrieb Lisi Reisz: > Yes, on my one systemd box, I had a problem with which no-one could help me. > > I do not allege that systemd directly caused it, but that the advent of > systemd caused a lot that had worked one way before, to have to work > differently now; that th

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Michael Biebl
t; /lib/systemd/system/systemd-timesyncd.service.d/disable-with-time-daemon.co >>>> nf [Unit] >>>> # don't run timesyncd if we have another NTP daemon installed >>>> ConditionFileIsExecutable=!/usr/sbin/ntpd >>>> ConditionFileIsExecutable=!/usr/sb

Re: OT Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 26 July 2015 14:52:56 Bob Bernstein wrote: > Another reason why > the correct answer to the OP's question is NOT "ntp." The question was: "What package contains the time daemon?" It may have been an X-Y question, but the answer to the question ac

OT Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015, Michael Biebl wrote: Yes. You actually need to do that. As long as ntp is installed, systemd-timesyncd won't start. I'd like to suggest that if I were a vindictive, morally shallow person I would be rushing back into this thread to point out: "Oh look! Another reason why

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Brian
t; > > > > # > > > > /lib/systemd/system/systemd-timesyncd.service.d/disable-with-time-daemon.co > > > >nf [Unit] > > > > # don't run timesyncd if we have another NTP daemon installed > > > > ConditionFileIsExecutable=!/usr/sbin/n

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Vincent Lefevre
n't start. > > > The assumption here is, that if the admin explicitly installed ntp, it > > > should be preferred of systemd-timesyncd. > > > See > > > > > > # > > > /lib/systemd/system/systemd-timesyncd.service.d/disable-with-ti

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Brian
min explicitly installed ntp, it > > should be preferred of systemd-timesyncd. > > See > > > > # > > /lib/systemd/system/systemd-timesyncd.service.d/disable-with-time-daemon.co > >nf [Unit] > > # don't run timesyncd if we have another NTP daemon instal

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Brian
On Sun 26 Jul 2015 at 14:57:02 +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: > Michael Biebl wrote: > > > The assumption here is, that if the admin explicitly installed ntp, it > > should be preferred of systemd-timesyncd. > > See > > > /lib/systemd/system/systemd-timesyncd.service.d/disable-with-time-daemon.conf

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-07-26 07:53:45 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Vincent Lefevre writes: > > Unfortunately none of them is secure, I mean: some attacker won't tend > > to make the date on your machine incorrect because of lack of > > authentication. > > http://www.ntp.org/ntpfaq/NTP-s-config-adv.htm > > See se

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 02:38:45PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 26.07.2015 um 13:44 schrieb Chris Bannister: > > On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 02:03:48AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > >>> > >>> If you are using systemd, look for timedatectl. Settings are at > >>> /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf > >> > >>

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Sven Hartge
wondering if my Jessie system is updating its clock >>>>> regularly. It gives a different time than my Windows box. What >>>>> package contains the daemon that updates the time from a central >>>>> site? [...] >> I think that answers my other

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Lisi Reisz
oyer: > >>>> I am wondering if my Jessie system is updating its clock regularly. It > >>>> gives a > >>>> different time than my Windows box. What package contains the daemon > >>>> that updates the time from a central site? >

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 26 July 2015 13:17:02 Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 10:54:35 +0100 > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > But that is for wheezy and earlier. systemd is, of course, different. > > Maybe the list should implement a rule, that people asking a question tell > us whether they are running

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread John Hasler
Vincent Lefevre writes: > Unfortunately none of them is secure, I mean: some attacker won't tend > to make the date on your machine incorrect because of lack of > authentication. http://www.ntp.org/ntpfaq/NTP-s-config-adv.htm See section 6.6.2, Authentication Even without it, though, sucessfully

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Michael Biebl
dating its clock regularly. It >>>> gives a >>>> different time than my Windows box. What package contains the daemon >>>> that updates the time from a central site? >>> >>> If you are using systemd, look for timedatectl. Settings are at >>&

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Ron
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 10:54:35 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > But that is for wheezy and earlier. systemd is, of course, different. Maybe the list should implement a rule, that people asking a question tell us whether they are running systemd or not. Given that the advent of systemd has, as a stroke

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread John Hasler
anxiousmac writes: > Years ago ... we didn't all have always-on connections. Chrony was developed to solve that problem. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listm

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread John Hasler
CaT writes: > Unless I misremember, you don't even need ntpdate. Starting ntp with > -g will do just fine (and it's the default config - I add -N). I don't > even have ntpdate installed. Yes. Ntpdate is obsolete. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to d

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-07-26 02:31:45 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > You can have a client, which is a daemon. > ntp implements both, an NTP client and server. > systemd-timesyncd only implements a client (running as daemon). > chrony, fwiw, is another client (running as daemon). > ntpdate is a cl

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Chris Bannister
erent time than my Windows box. What package contains the daemon > >> that updates the time from a central site? > > > > If you are using systemd, look for timedatectl. Settings are at > > /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf > > In most cases, simply running "

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 10:54:35AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 26 July 2015 05:09:37 CaT wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 11:32:53PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > It is, once ntpdate has slammed the correct time into the system at boot > > > time, then ntp takes over. > > > > Unless I

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread anxiousmac
On Sunday, 26 July 2015 05:30:04 UTC+1, CaT wrote: > On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 11:32:53PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > It is, once ntpdate has slammed the correct time into the system at boot > > time, then ntp takes over. > > Unless I misremember, you don't even need ntpdate. Starting ntp with

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-26 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 26 July 2015 05:09:37 CaT wrote: > On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 11:32:53PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > It is, once ntpdate has slammed the correct time into the system at boot > > time, then ntp takes over. > > Unless I misremember, you don't even need ntpdate. Starting ntp with > -g will d

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-25 Thread CaT
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 11:32:53PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > It is, once ntpdate has slammed the correct time into the system at boot > time, then ntp takes over. Unless I misremember, you don't even need ntpdate. Starting ntp with -g will do just fine (and it's the default config - I add -N).

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-25 Thread Gene Heskett
gt; question. Since ntpdate does not depend on ntp, then I > have to say, simply REALLY! But ntpdate is only used at bootup, once. The machine can and will drift. Running ntp as a daemon, it checks the round trip time and initially adjusts the time to within a few milliseconds of NBS time, tr

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-25 Thread John Hasler
The Wanderer writes: > The original question was "What package contains the daemon that > updates the time from a central site?". > The ntp package contains such a daemon - indeed, until systemd, almost > certainly the primary such daemon. The chrony package provides a tim

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-25 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015, The Wanderer wrote: This is bordering on code-of-conduct questionability. I'm glad to hear that. I can see that my work here is done. -- I am not a loony. Why should I be tarred with the epithet 'loony' merely because I have a pet halibut? I've heard tell that Sir Ge

Re: What package contains the time daemon?

2015-07-25 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 26.07.2015 um 02:23 schrieb The Wanderer: > The original question was "What package contains the daemon that updates > the time from a central site?". > > The ntp package contains such a daemon - indeed, until systemd, almost > certainly the primary such daemon. (And

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