On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 11:31:07PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
Hi, is it OK to forward your mail to debian-devel. I don't think
mailing to debian-user will have any effect on this issue?
No, I don't think it's appropriate to try and recruit an army from other
mailing lists to try and prop up y
Hi.
On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 07:16:30PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > Will the merge-usr cause myself problem ?
>
> You would end up with an empty partition, and possibly an overflowed
> root partition, if you made the root partition too small to hold all
> of the content from /usr.
I
Hi,
On 2021-07-18 7:21 p.m., Andy Smith wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 05:54:33PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
> wrote:
>> On 2021-07-18 5:07 p.m., Andy Smith wrote:
>>> I recommend understanding the issue before putting forth an opinion.
>>>
>> Maybe I shall correct what I s
On Sun 18 Jul 2021 at 19:16:30 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 11:31:07PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
> > Hi, is it OK to forward your mail to debian-devel. I don't think
> > mailing to debian-user will have any effect on this issue?
>
> What issue?
-devel are presently ha
On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 11:31:07PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
> Hi, is it OK to forward your mail to debian-devel. I don't think
> mailing to debian-user will have any effect on this issue?
What issue?
> On Sun, 2021-07-18 at 16:31 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
> wrote:
> > I currently
Hi, is it OK to forward your mail to debian-devel. I don't think
mailing to debian-user will have any effect on this issue?
On Sun, 2021-07-18 at 16:31 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > > But in any case, given that merged-usr-via-aliased-dirs is not
> > > really
> > > su
Hello,
On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 04:31:11PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> My personal opinion is that Debian is going into a mostly "we got the
> best idea in the world but forgot that not everyone implement things the
> same way".
I recommend understanding the issue before puttin
Hi,
>> But in any case, given that merged-usr-via-aliased-dirs is not really
>> supported by dpkg anyway, it is broken by design [B], I have no
>> intention whatsoever to break any of my systems with such layout
>> going forward, I'm thus planning to spend any necessary volunteer
>> time implement
On Dec 29, 2007 5:03 PM, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> FasterFox is considered harmful. It breaks spec and connects to web
> servers more than two concurrent times, and prefetches a tad too
> aggressively for many webservers to keep up properly.
Really? What ab
On 2007-12-29T14:03:38-0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> FasterFox is considered harmful. It breaks spec and connects to web
> servers more than two concurrent times, and prefetches a tad too
> aggressively for many webservers to keep up properly.
It has a number a of presets including &
*much* faster.
> >
> > Have you tried the FasterFox add-on?
>
> FasterFox is considered harmful. It breaks spec
How so?
> and connects
> to web servers more than two concurrent times, and prefetches a
> tad too aggressiv
On Dec 29, 2007 9:18 AM, Allan Wind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Quickloading of pages. I don't know if this is a Galeon thing, but side
> > by side with IceWeasel Galeon loads pages *much* faster.
>
> Have you tried the FasterFox add-on?
FasterFox is considered
On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 09:26:05AM -0500, David Clymer wrote:
> Someone has been trying to convice me that advising someone to use
> sysctl or sysctl.conf to query, or set kernel parameters is dangerous,
> or unsupported in Debian.
Ignore the moron.
>From /usr/share/doc/netbase/Readme.Debian:
*
David Clymer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Someone has been trying to convice me that advising someone to use
> sysctl or sysctl.conf to query, or set kernel parameters is dangerous,
> or unsupported in Debian. In particular, enabling/disabling ip
> forwarding. I happen to think this is BS.
'Sounds l
Someone has been trying to convice me that advising someone to use
sysctl or sysctl.conf to query, or set kernel parameters is dangerous,
or unsupported in Debian. In particular, enabling/disabling ip
forwarding. I happen to think this is BS.
Is there any conceivable, or more importantly, a probab
James Vahn writes:
> Novell, SuSE, TrollTech (KDE's Qt), SCO, Caldera. They (and more) are
> all tied together though the Canopy Group.
Canopy has never had any influence over Novell. Canopy once had a small
interest in Troll Tech. They sold it quite a while ago. Canopy fired
Yarro and severed
Marc Shapiro wrote:
> Caldera purchased some of the assets of SCO, including the SCO name.
Novell, SuSE, TrollTech (KDE's Qt), SCO, Caldera.
They (and more) are all tied together though the Canopy Group.
I wouldn't be suprised to see Corel as another one.
> SCO then renamed itself Tarantella.
> C
to the the only two responses elicited by
> > > my request for help in installing WordPerfect 8.0 which contained
> > > suggestions as to how to solve my problem -- those from Kent West
> > > and Patrick Wiseman.
> >
> > WordPerfect is conside
roblem -- those from Kent West and
Patrick Wiseman.
WordPerfect is considered harmful. SCO makes WordPerfect, and has proven
itself very anti-Linux. Don't install WordPerfect, don't use WordPerfect,
return it and DEMAND full refund.
Corel produced a WP6 for the SCO Unix platform years
Patrick writes:
> I can find no evidence that SCO owns Corel.
The SCO Group (formerly Caldera), the company that now calls itself SCO,
owns neither Corel nor WordPerfect.
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help in installing WordPerfect 8.0 which contained>> > suggestions as to how to solve my problem -- those from Kent West and>> > Patrick Wiseman.>>>> WordPerfect is considered harmful. SCO makes WordPerfect, and has proven
>> itself very anti-Linux. Don't insta
gt;> > suggestions as to how to solve my problem -- those from Kent West and
>> > Patrick Wiseman.
>>
>> WordPerfect is considered harmful. SCO makes WordPerfect, and has proven
>> itself very anti-Linux. Don't install WordPerfect, don't use WordPerfect,
>&g
in installing WordPerfect 8.0 which contained
> > suggestions as to how to solve my problem -- those from Kent West and
> > Patrick Wiseman.
>
> WordPerfect is considered harmful. SCO makes WordPerfect, and has
> proven
> itself very anti-Lin
t and
> Patrick Wiseman.WordPerfect is considered harmful. SCO makes WordPerfect, and has provenitself very anti-Linux. Don't install WordPerfect, don't use WordPerfect,return it and DEMAND full refund.
Corel produced a WP6 for the SCO Unix platform years ago. SCO, as
far as I can tell, has nev
em -- those from Kent West and
> > Patrick Wiseman.
>
> WordPerfect is considered harmful. SCO makes WordPerfect, and has proven
> itself very anti-Linux. Don't install WordPerfect, don't use WordPerfect,
> return it and DEMAND full refund.
http://www.corel.com still
solve my problem -- those from Kent West
> > and Patrick Wiseman.
>
> WordPerfect is considered harmful. SCO makes WordPerfect, and has
> proven itself very anti-Linux. Don't install WordPerfect, don't use
> WordPerfect, return it and DEMAND full refund.
I do believe
Ken Heard wrote:
> Herewith is my follow-up to the the only two responses elicited by my
> request for help in installing WordPerfect 8.0 which contained
> suggestions as to how to solve my problem -- those from Kent West and
> Patrick Wiseman.
WordPerfect is considered harmful
On mandag 12 september 2005, 17:47, Angelo Bertolli wrote:
> Ok, but what's the Apache configuration answer to this? I write out
> my virtual hosts without using mod_rewrite, and I really don't want
> to write TWO virtual host blocks just for the sake of redirecting
> domain.com to www.domain.com.
Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
On mandag 12 september 2005, 02:07, David Clymer wrote:
but wouldnt it
be much easier to add a ServerAlias to the vitualhost config?
Without trying to respond to the original question, I would like to
point out that ServerAliases are vil and architecturally
On mandag 12 september 2005, 02:07, David Clymer wrote:
> but wouldnt it
> be much easier to add a ServerAlias to the vitualhost config?
Without trying to respond to the original question, I would like to
point out that ServerAliases are vil and architecturally broken.
The redirect should ha
On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 08:17:39PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >> The only response I send to challenges is a response to postmaster to
> >> stop using TMDA. I'm wondering if there's any good resources on the web
> >> that summarize the harms of TMDA,
Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
> Too bad I haven't found a filter program that comes anywhere close to
> approaching the simplicity of tmda. The rules are *so freaking easy* to
> implement. This is a good thing.
What about Exim's own filtering? I find that rather easy to implement yet
retaining q
On 2004-07-13, Paul Johnson penned:
>
> So, in essence, TMDA's unfortunate creep in popularity is extremely
> harmful because it threatens to very quickly double or triple the
> damage spam causes.
Too bad I haven't found a filter program that comes anywhere close to
approaching the simplicity of
On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 23:17, Paul Johnson wrote:
> Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >> The only response I send to challenges is a response to postmaster to
> >> stop using TMDA. I'm wondering if there's any good resources on the web
> >> that summarize the harms of TMDA, and if so, w
Paul Johnson wrote:
Ask Karsten M. Self. I have no idea where his stuff is. He has written
or researched on a myriad of things. TMDA included.
Is Karsten still posting here?
Here or d-i. Can't spell his name tho:-) He gave a broken link to his
website in the last day or so.
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Jo
Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> The only response I send to challenges is a response to postmaster to
>> stop using TMDA. I'm wondering if there's any good resources on the web
>> that summarize the harms of TMDA, and if so, where they are located.
>
> Ask Karsten M. Self. I have no i
On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 22:35, Paul Johnson wrote:
> Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > David Fokkema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >>> - The premise that responses to challenges can be reliably predicted
> >>> is false. Legitimate senders will refuse to answer challenges.
> >
Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> David Fokkema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>> - The premise that responses to challenges can be reliably predicted
>>> is false. Legitimate senders will refuse to answer challenges.
>>> Spammers can and do respond to challenges.
>>
>> not eno
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Adam Funk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Saturday 03 July 2004 08:10, Paul Johnson wrote:
>
>> An article on vnunet reminds me that I was going to post how to get
>> exim4 to go around those plain retarded DULs. I finally got around to
>> it, and h
On 2004-06-03, Tim Connors penned:
>
> Spammers already break so many laws[1] that if if was easy to catch
> them (and it is[2]), something would be done about them, if law
> enforcement cared at all.
>
Speaking of spamming, please don't CC me. It's against the list policy,
I already get your mis
Keeping spam out of my inbox is easy; I just delete every email that
has a link to a known spam site in the body before it goes through my
other regex filters; If they do not add a site for the product they
are trying to sell (and that's rare) the other filters get it easily,
after the first co
"Monique Y. Mudama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Wed, 2 Jun 2004 09:24:20 -0600:
> On 2004-06-02, Tim Connors penned:
> >
> > If challenge response ever becomes ubiquitous, then spammers will
> > trivially be able to verify the responses without providing their own
> > email address. They will simpl
Rob writes:
> http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/05/27/tech.spam.reut
No cracked machines involved.
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On Wednesday 02 June 2004 11:25 am, John Hasler wrote:
> monique writes:
> > At least that method of circumvention is a serious legal offense ...
>
> If so why have none been prosecuted for it?
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/05/27/tech.spam.reut/
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monique writes:
> At least that method of circumvention is a serious legal offense ...
If so why have none been prosecuted for it?
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On 2004-06-02, Tim Connors penned:
>
> If challenge response ever becomes ubiquitous, then spammers will
> trivially be able to verify the responses without providing their own
> email address. They will simply do what the currently do - open up
> millions of backdoors on cracked computers, go thro
Tim Connors wrote:
richard lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Tue, 1 Jun 2004 12:36:59 -0400:
Wow, what nice spammers you meet: give you real addresses. Mine all
use fake sending addresses, so would never receive any challenge I
sent.
If challenge response ever becomes ubiquitous, then spammers
richard lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Tue, 1 Jun 2004 12:36:59 -0400:
> On Tuesday 01 June 2004 08:29, Tom Allison wrote:
> [...]
> > They are also a pain in the neck when you get a CR sent to a
> > mailing list.
> >
> > But most importantly, and this is from personal experience here,
> > they
richard lyons wrote:
> Wow, what nice spammers you meet: give you real addresses. Mine all
> use fake sending addresses, so would never receive any challenge I
> sent. In fact, that is why I always thought some sort of challenge
> system would be effective - it would remove 99% of the spam tha
On Tuesday 01 June 2004 08:29, Tom Allison wrote:
[...]
> They are also a pain in the neck when you get a CR sent to a
> mailing list.
>
> But most importantly, and this is from personal experience here,
> they are not very useful. I played with a CR mechanism for a few
> months on my own mail ser
Adam Aube wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
Now for anybody else considering challenge-response email systems,
this is why they're considered harmful.
How are they any more harmful than autoresponders or list subscription
confirmations (like those used by the Debian lists)?
Adam
Subscri
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Adam Aube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Paul Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> Now for anybody else considering challenge-response email systems,
>>> this is why they're considered harmful.
>>
&
On Saturday 29 May 2004 22:08, Adam Aube wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
> > Now for anybody else considering challenge-response email
> > systems, this is why they're considered harmful.
>
> How are they any more harmful than autoresponders or list
> subscription conf
Adam Aube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
>
>> Now for anybody else considering challenge-response email systems,
>> this is why they're considered harmful.
>
> How are they any more harmful than autoresponders or list subscription
> confir
Paul Johnson wrote:
> Now for anybody else considering challenge-response email systems,
> this is why they're considered harmful.
How are they any more harmful than autoresponders or list subscription
confirmations (like those used by the Debian lists)?
Adam
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On Wed, May 26, 2004 at 10:31:21AM -0700, Bill Moseley wrote:
> On Wed, May 26, 2004 at 09:36:52AM -0600, s. keeling wrote:
> > Usenix' ;login: had an article recently discussing this sort of
> > vulnerability. If you're letting just anyone at your C compiler, you
> > MAY be facilitating exploits.
verify that the message you
>>
>> Now for anybody else considering challenge-response email systems,
>> this is why they're considered harmful.
>
> Oh come on. It's a feature. It flags the sender as an immediate
> useful entry in your killfile. Kill him and that
response email systems,
> this is why they're considered harmful.
Oh come on. It's a feature. It flags the sender as an immediate
useful entry in your killfile. Kill him and that's yet another nitwit
you'll never have to bother with again.
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Any technology
2 to authenticate. When you authenticate I'll receive your
> > email and you'll never have to authenticate for me again, no matter
> > what spam rating your emails get.
>
> Now for anybody else considering challenge-response email systems,
> this is why they
for me again, no matter
> what spam rating your emails get.
Now for anybody else considering challenge-response email systems,
this is why they're considered harmful.
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Hi,
Am Fr, den 19.12.2003 schrieb Adam um 09:02:
> On Thursday 18 December 2003 21:40, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote:
>
> > You share a network neighbourhood with _others_. Your machine start
> > connections to my machine, and when my machine want's to answer your
> > machine half an hour later, _you
On Thursday 18 December 2003 21:40, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote:
> You share a network neighbourhood with _others_. Your machine start
> connections to my machine, and when my machine want's to answer your
> machine half an hour later, _your_ machine is gone, or another machine
> is answering, or...
Hi,
Am Do, den 18.12.2003 schrieb Karsten M. Self um 03:11:
> on Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:37:09PM +0100, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote:
> > Am Mi, den 17.12.2003 schrieb Karsten M. Self um 01:21:
> > > - There are highly specific filters and methods which can effectively
> > > discriminate betwe
on Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:37:09PM +0100, Joerg Rossdeutscher ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for your useful mail. This thread started to fill my killfile...
> :-)
>
> Am Mi, den 17.12.2003 schrieb Karsten M. Self um 01:21:
> > - There are highly specific filters and methods which
Hi,
Thanks for your useful mail. This thread started to fill my killfile...
:-)
Am Mi, den 17.12.2003 schrieb Karsten M. Self um 01:21:
> - There are highly specific filters and methods which can effectively
> discriminate between spam and non-spam content. Activity-based
> lists, Baye
Incoming from Magnus von Koeller:
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> On Wednesday 17 December 2003 01:21, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > This isn't acceptable for general-purpose communications, however.
> > And I'd suggest you look into common carrier laws as well (I'm
>
> And if you don't like your
On Wednesday 17 December 2003 01:21, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> This isn't acceptable for general-purpose communications, however.
> And I'd suggest you look into common carrier laws as well (I'm
> somewhat familiar with US statutes) as to showing preferences by
> customer. I see little distinction
on Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 09:09:18PM +, Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 01:34:03PM -0700, Wesley J Landaker wrote:
> > On Tuesday 16 December 2003 1:08 pm, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote:
> > > A mailserver can harm _others_.
> >
> > I totally agree. Which is why I'm
On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 06:10, Paul Johnson wrote:
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> On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 03:39:06AM -0300, Anthony Rowe wrote:
> > There is usually a one-line description of a newsgroup which is
> > displayed beside one's personal list of subscribed newsgroups
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Aug 6 08:41:46 2003
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 10:57:21PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
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> > On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 09:55:11AM +0200, David Fokkema wrote:
> > > Agreed. Although the 'very high' depends on the
On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 03:50:31PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 14:39:27 -0700
> Alan Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > In fact he perports that C-R is a better defense than PGP.
>
> > No. I didn't ever say anything like that.
>
> Alan, there's one thing I absolutel
Refinement: If the domain isn't one of the major isps, then run whois
on it and grep out the name of the hosting ISP.
Send the complaint to THAT abuse dept.
Easy.
Alan
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On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 12:32:53PM -0700, Alan Connor wrote:
> Right. A properly designed CR requires the recipient of the CR to hit Reply
> and paste a string on the subject line. ONCE. Only one time EVER.
Wrong. I want to communicate with lots of people. I have to do that
for every CR system use
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On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 08:23:29PM -0500, Michael D. Schleif wrote:
> So, basically, *ALL* mail from those domains will pass -- UN-challenged
> -- by your C-R system? And, _none_ of those emails can possibly contain
> spam?
Yeah. He's in for a wakeu
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 03:10:14AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 03:39:06AM -0300, Anthony Rowe wrote:
> > There is usually a one-line description of a newsgroup which is
> > displayed beside one's personal list of subscribed newsgroups. It
> > gives a very short summary of
It seems that Mr. Connor never paid attention to Sesame St. when the Count
was on.
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 08:54:03 -0700
Alan Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
= 1. First level of quoting.
> > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Aug 6 08:41:46 2003
^^^
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 16:45, Steve Lamb wrote:
[...]
> So "Game, set, match" means "He won the game which won him the set
> and as a result won the match."
As long we are all clear _who_ won...
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On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 09:10:03 -0700, Alan Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I hate to have to do this, but I own an apology to Paul Johnson.
>
> (Having received a mail from a list member with an example of a false
> CR. Talk about FAST.)
For all that you do in trying to fight the spam problem,
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On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 09:43:56PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> > USENET was designed as a replacement to listservs. Given the origin,
> > lost functionality, and it's about as effective as C-R for reducing
> > spam, mungin
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On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 03:10:21PM -0700, Alan Connor wrote:
> No offense intended, Lance, but you are just the sort of person that my
> CR system is designed to filter out.
Or you're just another person on the net wanting to ask an off-topic
question
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 22:33:58 -0700
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> However, it generates less spam than signing up for Yahoo, even when
> used over years.
How can you be so sure?
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On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 11:32:50 -0700
Alan Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 7 11:30:45 2003
> > Alan Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > But the widespread use of CR systems would eliminate spam from the face
> > > of the earth.
> > What do you do about spam th
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On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 09:21:52AM -0700, Alan Connor wrote:
> What we NEED are "advertising servers" that check the legality and
> trustworthiness of any advertising they offer.
Licenses to advertise. Rght. Go read
nntp://news.spamcop.net/spam
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On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 10:52:41PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> > However, it generates less spam than signing up for Yahoo, even when
> > used over years.
>
> How can you be so sure?
It was one of the last straws that made me to start serving myse
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On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 12:31:12PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What is the proper way to report spam?
Essentially, trace headers back to the originator, forward copies of
the spam including headers to the originating ISP and any webhosting
provi
Carlos Sousa writes:
> Do you also have an account at my service provider? Or is it that you're
> just incapable of setting up your mail system to show the real origin of
> your emails? Anyway, you're incurring in mail forgery.
No he isn't. His "From:" line reads "From: alanc". As it contains no
What we NEED are "advertising servers" that check the legality and
trustworthiness of any advertising they offer.
THEN you can put that server on your passlist. You'd register a password
with that server, which could be changed at will. All the "spam" they sent
you would include that password in
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 11:32:50AM -0700, Alan Connor wrote:
> The traditional spamfighting strategies just don't work. Period.
Please define: don't work.
David
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On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 04:10:02PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 11:38:48AM -0300, Anthony Rowe wrote:
> >
> > It turns out that the References: and Message-ID: headers are
> > rewritten by the news gateway. I have since discovered that threading
> > can (hopefully) be pres
On 05 Aug 2003 14:29:34 -0400
Mark Roach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> how does challenge response help if I post on debian-user and set my
> From: header to say "Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" and rant and rave
> against debian in general and other users in particular? Obviously you
> can't prove
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 07:20:02 -0700
Alan Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 5 07:07:40 2003
> > On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 16:04:11 -0500, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > alanconnor writes:
> > > > Still doesn't make sense to me and I am seriously considering
This procmail recipe would do the trick. No more spam on the list.
(there *might* be one or two, occassionally, but that password would
be promptly killed. )
Anyone subscribing to the list would have to validate their address
by answering a CR, which is *standard* pracice on the vast majority
of
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 09:44:50AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> First off, you're responding to two different people as if they were one.
> Secondly David Fokkema has been on the pro-C-R side of the fence. I do not
> recall him ever complaining about bandwidth (unlike one Mr. Connor who
> compl
On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 09:26:08PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 12:58:07PM -0300, Anthony Rowe wrote:
> > > I wouldn't mind taking up the cause. What are the newsgroups this is
> > > heard on?
> >
> > linux.debian.user
>
> Isn't it also in muc.* someplace?
not that I am
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Aug 6 12:22:35 2003
>
I just worked the last bugs out of the expire script for MSP.
It goes in cron.daily and checks all the password/address combos for
Challenge-Responses that were issued more than 48 hours in the past, and
for which a reply has not been rece
I hate to have to do this, but I own an apology to Paul Johnson.
(Having received a mail from a list member with an example of a false CR. Talk
about FAST.)
Spammers DO send false CRs, but they are EASY to spot.
A real one will have:
Subject: Re: The_Subject_of_Your_Original_Message
AND the
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 08:55:49PM -0700, Alan Connor wrote:
> Facts are facts, and the fact is that traditional spam-blocking strategies
> don't work, and CR programs do.
Please define: traditional ... strategies don't work. And, since you say
it is a _fact_, please show us the _facts_.
> Now I
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 09:09:31 +0200
David Fokkema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Let me get this straight: NO user intervention after the first
> harrassing mail? Isn't this a bit risky (just trying to help you out)?
> For example, A sends B the following e-mail:
> B!!! You are a empty-minded son of
On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 10:41:23 -0500
Kirk Strauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 2003-08-05T14:20:02Z, Alan Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Please fix your mail headers ^^
Anyone else find it mildly ironic that Alan here bitches about mangled
headers and
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 16:29:23 -0700 Alan Connor wrote:
> > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Aug 6 16:21:40 2003
> >
> > On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 09:10:03 -0700, Alan Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > ...
> >
> > For all that you do in trying to fight the spam problem, I find it
> > ironic that you y
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