Re: brasero requires systemd-sysv

2014-09-04 Thread Martin Read
On 04/09/14 12:43, The Wanderer wrote: On 09/03/2014 at 01:52 PM, Martin Read wrote: was done in response to the decision of the kernel's cgroup subsystem maintainer, Tejun Heo, that the way cgroups hierarchies worked was terrible and a single hierarchy single-writer model would be far more sens

Re: brasero requires systemd-sysv

2014-09-04 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/03/2014 at 01:52 PM, Martin Read wrote: > On 03/09/14 17:14, The Wanderer wrote: > >> IMO, any functionality which anything not part of the init >> system might legitimately want to depend on - such as the >> functionality needed by libpam-sy

Re: brasero requires systemd-sysv

2014-09-03 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Wed, 3 Sep 2014 19:19:01 +0100 Brian napísal: > On Wed 03 Sep 2014 at 13:27:04 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > > John Hasler wrote: > > > > > >Thus Brasero does not require that Systemd be init. > > > > Except, there has been recent discussion on debian-dev indicating > > that curre

Re: brasero requires systemd-sysv

2014-09-03 Thread Rob Owens
- Original Message - > From: "The Wanderer" > > On 09/03/2014 at 11:41 AM, B wrote: > > > On Wed, 3 Sep 2014 11:12:24 -0400 (EDT) Rob Owens > > wrote: > > > >> I'd also like to know if there are any features of brasero that > >> *really* require systemd to be used as the init syste

Re: brasero requires systemd-sysv

2014-09-03 Thread Brian
On Wed 03 Sep 2014 at 13:27:04 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > John Hasler wrote: > > > >Thus Brasero does not require that Systemd be init. > > Except, there has been recent discussion on debian-dev indicating > that current versions of systemd-shim are incompatible with the > latest versions of

Re: brasero requires systemd-sysv

2014-09-03 Thread Brian
On Wed 03 Sep 2014 at 11:12:24 -0400, Rob Owens wrote: > brasero depends on systemd-sysv. Here is the chain of dependencies > I've identified, with the help of some folks on this list: Brasero requires the installation of systemd-sysv (or systemd-shim) but it is not one of its dependencies. > b

Re: brasero requires systemd-sysv

2014-09-03 Thread Martin Read
On 03/09/14 17:14, The Wanderer wrote: IMO, any functionality which anything not part of the init system might legitimately want to depend on - such as the functionality needed by libpam-systemd - should be implemented first, primarily, and indeed probably *only* as something that is *not* part o

Re: brasero requires systemd-sysv

2014-09-03 Thread Miles Fidelman
John Hasler wrote: thumper/~ 19 apt-cache show libpam-systemd Package: libpam-systemd Source: systemd Version: 208-8 Installed-Size: 114 Maintainer: Debian systemd Maintainers Architecture: amd64 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14), libcap2 (>= 1:2.10), libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.0.2), libpam0g (>= 0.99.7.1), sys

Re: brasero requires systemd-sysv

2014-09-03 Thread Bzzzz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 12:14:16 -0400 The Wanderer wrote: [SNIP] You are preaching to the choir, Wanderer ;) - From all that I read, my conviction is Linux was becoming way too secured, ssl too (despite of recent events), thus systemd will add weakn

Re: brasero requires systemd-sysv

2014-09-03 Thread John Hasler
thumper/~ 19 apt-cache show libpam-systemd Package: libpam-systemd Source: systemd Version: 208-8 Installed-Size: 114 Maintainer: Debian systemd Maintainers Architecture: amd64 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14), libcap2 (>= 1:2.10), libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.0.2), libpam0g (>= 0.99.7.1), systemd (= 208-8), libpa

Re: brasero requires systemd-sysv

2014-09-03 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 11:12:24AM -0400, Rob Owens wrote: > brasero depends on systemd-sysv. Here is the chain of dependencies I've > identified, with the help of some folks on this list: > > brasero -> gvfs -> gvfs-daemons -> udisks2 -> libpam-systemd -> systemd-sysv No hard evidence of this

Re: brasero requires systemd-sysv

2014-09-03 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/03/2014 at 11:41 AM, B wrote: > On Wed, 3 Sep 2014 11:12:24 -0400 (EDT) Rob Owens > wrote: > >> I'd also like to know if there are any features of brasero that >> *really* require systemd to be used as the init system -- >> features th

Re: brasero requires systemd-sysv

2014-09-03 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 3 Sep 2014 11:12:24 -0400 (EDT) Rob Owens wrote: > I'd also like to know if there are any features of brasero that > *really* require systemd to be used as the init system -- features > that would not work with sysvinit. I'm hoping Michael or some other > developers can chime in on this

brasero requires systemd-sysv

2014-09-03 Thread Rob Owens
brasero depends on systemd-sysv. Here is the chain of dependencies I've identified, with the help of some folks on this list: brasero -> gvfs -> gvfs-daemons -> udisks2 -> libpam-systemd -> systemd-sysv For now I'd like to ignore the option of using systemd-shim and just examine why a cd burn