Re: bewildering boot problem -- a little more info

2015-10-05 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 11:05:20PM -0600, Glenn English wrote: [...] > > Hmmm. Sorry to be so unspecific. > > No prob. Everybody's happy now. I just have some data to copy over from the > old disk. At least it wasn't the hardware... In any case, g

Re: bewildering boot problem -- a little more info

2015-10-05 Thread Glenn English
On Oct 5, 2015, at 12:51 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > Do you have an entry in /etc/hosts matching your actual IP to the content in > /etc/hostname when you observe this delay? Yup. I rely on the host files, so I keep then correct and accurate. -- Glenn English

Re: bewildering boot problem -- a little more info

2015-10-05 Thread Glenn English
On Oct 5, 2015, at 11:53 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Hmm. Weird. I dimly remember that tcpwrappers did something > similar: to check the host name they sometimes tried a > reverse host lookup, which took its time when it failed. I've never seen or heard of anything like this -- the kernel comp

Re: bewildering boot problem -- a little more info

2015-10-05 Thread Felix Miata
Glenn English composed on 2015-10-04 18:14 (UTC-0600): > I disabled XDM (sure is nice to have text config files) and rebooted. It > came up at a regular login prompt, and no error messages. startx took a > *very* long time -- said it couldn't find the hostname (something like > that) -- but it eve

Re: bewildering boot problem -- a little more info

2015-10-05 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 11:53:06AM -0600, Glenn English wrote: > > On Oct 5, 2015, at 1:04 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > Then try "ssh @localhost". > > Works, kinda. It does the same thing to localhost or the hostname, from the > console or fro

Re: bewildering boot problem -- a little more info

2015-10-05 Thread Glenn English
On Oct 5, 2015, at 1:04 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Then try "ssh @localhost". Works, kinda. It does the same thing to localhost or the hostname, from the console or from a terminal in XFCE. (I've got SSH running with keys around the local net(s) (no login required)). The MOTD comes up right

Re: bewildering boot problem -- a little more info

2015-10-05 Thread Glenn English
On Oct 5, 2015, at 1:04 AM, wrote: > All those 30-ish seconds timeout and the error message you mention > above smell of something trying to resolve a host name, failing > and giving up (timeout). Yup. The timeouts do, anyway. The error messages from the kernel when I start XFCE never time ou

Re: bewildering boot problem -- a little more info

2015-10-05 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 04, 2015 at 06:14:44PM -0600, Glenn English wrote: > I disabled XDM (sure is nice to have text config files) and rebooted. It came > up at a regular login prompt, and no error messages. startx took a *very* > long time -- said it couldn't

bewildering boot problem -- a little more info

2015-10-04 Thread Glenn English
I disabled XDM (sure is nice to have text config files) and rebooted. It came up at a regular login prompt, and no error messages. startx took a *very* long time -- said it couldn't find the hostname (something like that) -- but it eventually started XFCE. And the messages were back. Something