Re: Probable bug in mc shell link when reading non-ASCII file names

2024-01-19 Thread Sven Joachim
I tested it >> with mc from Ubuntu 18 and from the current Mint). File and directory >> names on the remote Debian Testing computer containing UTF-8 Non-ASCII >> characters are displayed incorrectly and the files and directories >> cannot be read. >> For example, inste

Re: Probable bug in mc shell link when reading non-ASCII file names

2024-01-19 Thread Sven Joachim
ry > names on the remote Debian Testing computer containing UTF-8 Non-ASCII > characters are displayed incorrectly and the files and directories > cannot be read. > For example, instead of a file with a name containing the Polish > letters "AąCćEę", Shell Link mc sees a file name

Re: Probable bug in mc shell link when reading non-ASCII file names

2024-01-19 Thread tomas
le and directory names on the remote > Debian Testing computer containing UTF-8 Non-ASCII characters are displayed > incorrectly and the files and directories cannot be read. > For example, instead of a file with a name containing the Polish letters > "AąCćEę", Shell Link mc sees

Probable bug in mc shell link when reading non-ASCII file names

2024-01-19 Thread jureq
operly. The bug appeared today and is visible on all computers connecting to remote Debian Testing systems regardless of MC version (I tested it with mc from Ubuntu 18 and from the current Mint). File and directory names on the remote Debian Testing computer containing UTF-8 Non-ASCII character

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-02-07 Thread Anton Shepelev
Pandoc), while remaining a read- able plain-text file, which is compromise. You don't need this compromise if the ASCII is your only intended output. My own quest for the formatting of ASCII files ended up in GNU Troff, which can do all the standard ele- ments of sturcutured documents,

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-02-05 Thread Curt
On 2023-02-05, TRS-80 wrote: > >> 2- a simple way to align some text to the right (that is to say to >> automatically calculate how many spaces are needed to fill the gap >> between the text on the left an the text on the right for 72 characters >> line. > > #+begin_src emacs-lisp > (defun my-in

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-02-04 Thread TRS-80
king > for a simple way to write email with some minimal ASCII formatting. This > is why I am looking for an automatic solution. As Greg already stated, you only need to calculate spaces if the content will be changing (i.e., date or other field(s)). Otherwise just write what you want staticall

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-02-03 Thread Cousin Stanley
> Pierre Willaime posted > > > For example I am looking for a convenient way to > "draw" some ASCII boxes such as > > # > ## some title here ## > # I have a python program that does this $ py

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-02-02 Thread debian-user
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 11:06:44PM +0100, Pierre Willaime wrote: > >1- a simple way to draw a line (without pressing 72 times on "-") > >--- > > Are you using emacs? I'm *sure* there must be a quick short-hand to do > this. I

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-02-02 Thread songbird
Pierre Willaime wrote: ... > I would like to format plain text emails to increase readability and > information separation. The idea is to go beyond markdown and to have > more visible elements. For example I am looking for a convenient way to > "draw" so

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-02-02 Thread tomas
On Thu, Feb 02, 2023 at 10:50:59AM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 11:06:44PM +0100, Pierre Willaime wrote: > > 1- a simple way to draw a line (without pressing 72 times on "-") > > --- > > Are you using e

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-02-02 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 11:06:44PM +0100, Pierre Willaime wrote: 1- a simple way to draw a line (without pressing 72 times on "-") --- Are you using emacs? I'm *sure* there must be a quick short-hand to do this. I use vi, and t

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-02-01 Thread David Wright
aligned to the left and some other text aligned to > the right, same line). > > But you are right, .signature file is only written once and I am looking > for a simple way to write email with some minimal ASCII formatting. This > is why I am looking for an automatic solution. > >

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-02-01 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
r file named anything like either of those two things, in >> > current Debian testing and stable. >> >> You use the built-in package manager: 'M-x package-install RET >> ascii-art-draw RET'. > > ... what in the HELL is that? An emacs command? Does emacs ha

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-02-01 Thread The Wanderer
or file named anything like either of those two things, in >> > current Debian testing and stable. >> >> You use the built-in package manager: 'M-x package-install RET >> ascii-art-draw RET'. > > ... what in the HELL is that? An emacs command? Y

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-02-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
bian testing and stable. > > You use the built-in package manager: 'M-x package-install RET ascii-art-draw > RET'. ... what in the HELL is that? An emacs command? Does emacs have its own packages?

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-02-01 Thread Curt
On 2023-02-01, The Wanderer wrote: > > Can you double-check what (Debian) package that's in? I'm not finding > any package or file named anything like either of those two things, in > current Debian testing and stable. You use the built-in package manager: 'M-x package

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-02-01 Thread The Wanderer
e good >> advice about this question. >> -- >> >> I would like to format plain text emails to increase readability and >> information separation. The idea is to go beyond markdown and to have >> more visible elements. For example I am looking for a convenient way to &

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-02-01 Thread Curt
format plain text emails to increase readability and > information separation. The idea is to go beyond markdown and to have > more visible elements. For example I am looking for a convenient way to > "draw" some ASCII boxes such as > > # > ## som

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-02-01 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 07:49:18PM +0100, Pierre Willaime wrote: I would like to format plain text emails to increase readability and information separation. The idea is to go beyond markdown and to have more visible elements. If you do this, please have some consideration for how screen reader

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-02-01 Thread Max Nikulin
On 01/02/2023 01:49, Pierre Willaime wrote: I would like to format plain text emails to increase readability and information separation. The following message is result of ascii export from Emacs Org mode, the source file is attached. Export backend is customizable. https

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-01-31 Thread Anssi Saari
Pierre Willaime writes: > 1- a simple way to draw a line (without pressing 72 times on "-") > --- > > 2- a simple way to align some text to the right (that is to say to > automatically calculate how many spaces are needed to fill

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-01-31 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 05:14:01PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 23:06:44 +0100 > Pierre Willaime wrote: > > > 1- a simple way to draw a line (without pressing 72 times on "-") > > --- > > In emacs, ctl-u 7

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-01-31 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 23:06:44 +0100 Pierre Willaime wrote: > 1- a simple way to draw a line (without pressing 72 times on "-") > --- In emacs, ctl-u 7 2 -

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-01-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 05:32:07PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Again, a programming language can easily take an input string, measure > its length in characters, and produce an output string that looks like > a "box" around the input string. (Less easily if full Unicode is in play.) Here's a si

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-01-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 11:06:44PM +0100, Pierre Willaime wrote: > I do not want to do ASCII art, I am only searching a simple way to do > something close to the debian-annouce emails. > > > The

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-01-31 Thread David Wright
On Tue 31 Jan 2023 at 15:03:30 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 01:42:10PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > The question then is why emacs uses ; as a comment character. > > Because of LISP. > > https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Comments.html I had as

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-01-31 Thread err404
On 1/31/23 23:07, err...@free.fr wrote: On 1/31/23 19:49, Pierre Willaime wrote: (...) For example I am looking for a convenient way to "draw" some ASCII boxes such as # ## some title here ## # (...) the package 'figlet' is what y

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-01-31 Thread Pierre Willaime
Le 31/01/2023 à 20:44, Jude DaShiell a écrit : > chafa may help https://hpjansson.org/chafa/ Thanks! Not exactly what I am looking for (cf. my other answer) but very useful.

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-01-31 Thread err404
On 1/31/23 19:49, Pierre Willaime wrote: (...) For example I am looking for a convenient way to "draw" some ASCII boxes such as # ## some title here ## # (...) the package 'figlet' is what you want

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-01-31 Thread Pierre Willaime
is only written once and I am looking for a simple way to write email with some minimal ASCII formatting. This is why I am looking for an automatic solution. I do not want to do ASCII art, I am only searching a simple way to do something close to the d

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-01-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 07:49:18PM +0100, Pierre Willaime wrote: > # > ## some title here ## > # > > (I am using emacs comment-box feature in a buffer to do this and I > replace ; by #, I suppose there is nicer way to do this). > > I often see email signatu

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-01-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 01:42:10PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > The question then is why emacs uses ; as a comment character. Because of LISP. https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Comments.html

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-01-31 Thread Jude DaShiell
boxes specializes in that. chafa may help those that get your ascii boxes put those characters into the printable set. Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Tue, 3

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-01-31 Thread David Wright
gt; "draw" some ASCII boxes such as > > # > ## some title here ## > # > > (I am using emacs comment-box feature in a buffer to do this and I > replace ; by #, I suppose there is nicer way to do this). The question then is why

Re: ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-01-31 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 01:49:18 PM Pierre Willaime wrote: > ... I am looking for a convenient way to > "draw" some ASCII boxes such as > > # > ## some title here ## > # > Do you know dedicated tools or text editor to d

ASCII formatting for plain text email

2023-01-31 Thread Pierre Willaime
idea is to go beyond markdown and to have more visible elements. For example I am looking for a convenient way to "draw" some ASCII boxes such as # ## some title here ## # (I am using emacs comment-box feature in a buffer to do this and I replace

Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-25 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 25.01.20 05:51, Richard Owlett wrote: > My current project is dealing with oddly formatted data. Mostly just plain > ASCII. Progress on another aspect of my project has made this thread moot. For the thread, there's also: $ apt-cache search bvi bvi -

Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-25 Thread Richard Owlett
tools are inconvenient. I need to:   1. Simultaneously display in _both_ HEX and ASCII format   2. Know the current offset in *DECIMAL* format. {knowing the offset also in HEX might be nice}   3. Goto to an offset - expressed in DECIMAL.   4. Advance a specific number of bytes.   5. Search for an AS

Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread Stefan Pietsch
ly display in _both_ HEX and ASCII format  2. Know the current offset in *DECIMAL* format.     {knowing the offset also in HEX might be nice}  3. Goto to an offset - expressed in DECIMAL.  4. Advance a specific number of bytes.  5. Search for an ASCII string.  6. Search for arbitrary sequenc

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread David Wright
On Fri 24 Jan 2020 at 07:16:05 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 01/23/2020 06:51 PM, David Wright wrote: > > [snip] A quick grep on my system shows that I've > > never installed any package containing the string "ghex"... > ^^^ > > IOW if you've never used program XYZ

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 09:53:58AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: [...] > Emacs, which I gather you think is not a GUI application?) [...] Ah, it's *not*? Twenty-five years using that thing and I still didn't know. Bummer ;-P Cheers -- tomás signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/24/2020 08:53 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: I posted in two fora (here and a LUG mailing list). *NOBODY* picked up on two key features I presumed obvious ;/ That's likely because noone cares about what you want. Bloody bastards! While I'm here, let me give another suggestion (besides the use

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread John Hasler
Stefan writes: > I'm pretty sure this time it *really* doesn't do what you asked; but > OTOH, there's a good chance it might be useful for what you're doing. hexl-mode would do what he wants but there's no reason to learn Emacs just for that (there lots of other good reasons, though). -- John Has

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I posted in two fora (here and a LUG mailing list). > *NOBODY* picked up on two key features I presumed obvious ;/ That's likely because noone cares about what you want. Bloody bastards! While I'm here, let me give another suggestion (besides the use of Emacs, which I gather you think is not a

Re: Pedantic Comment (Was Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII)

2020-01-24 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/24/2020 07:47 AM, John Hasler wrote: Richard writes: I would prefer an actual GUI. But for a command line program it does very well. Text UI or interactive, not command line. ... As I've said elsewhere -- "If retirement not for learning - what use is it?" and thanks.

Pedantic Comment (Was Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII)

2020-01-24 Thread John Hasler
Richard writes: > I would prefer an actual GUI. But for a command line program it does > very well. Text UI or interactive, not command line. With a command line program you enter the program name, some options and some arguments at the shell prompt and hit enter. The program runs, sends its out

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread The Wanderer
ned/implied *DISPLAY*. >>>>I never even hinted at editing. >>> >>> I think you'll find that displaying a file as hex and ASCII is >>> pretty much of a monopoly of hex editors. I don't know any other kind >>> of program that can do

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/23/2020 06:51 PM, David Wright wrote: [snip] A quick grep on my system shows that I've never installed any package containing the string "ghex"... ^^^ IOW if you've never used program XYZ it therefore is of no use. See also: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/23/2020 09:54 PM, The Wanderer wrote: On 2020-01-23 at 16:42, Joe wrote: On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 15:20:44 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: 2. I repeatedly mentioned/implied *DISPLAY*. I never even hinted at editing. I think you'll find that displaying a file as hex and ASC

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/23/2020 03:42 PM, Joe wrote: On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 15:20:44 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: 2. I repeatedly mentioned/implied *DISPLAY*. I never even hinted at editing. I think you'll find that displaying a file as hex and ASCII is pretty much of a monopoly of hex editors.

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-23 Thread The Wanderer
On 2020-01-23 at 16:42, Joe wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 15:20:44 -0600 > Richard Owlett wrote: > >>2. I repeatedly mentioned/implied *DISPLAY*. >> I never even hinted at editing. > > I think you'll find that displaying a file as hex and ASCII is &g

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-23 Thread ghe
t editing. >>> >> >> I think you'll find that displaying a file as hex and ASCII is pretty >> much of a monopoly of hex editors. > > ...except the most obvious choice for command line folks, "hexdump -C", > which was already mentioned in this thread. Or hexedit (CTL^C to get out) -- Glenn English

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-23 Thread David Wright
> > Just downloaded ghex. I like the display format. > > I posted in two fora (here and a LUG mailing list). > *NOBODY* picked up on two key features I presumed obvious ;/ > 1. For my problem domain, GUI is obvious way to go: > a. Intuitive (IMMHO) connection of a select

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-23 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 09:42:11PM +, Joe wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 15:20:44 -0600 > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > >2. I repeatedly mentioned/implied *DISPLAY*. > > I never even hinted at editing. > > > > I think you'll find that dis

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-23 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 09:42:11PM +, Joe wrote: > I think you'll find that displaying a file as hex and ASCII is pretty > much of a monopoly of hex editors. I don't know any other kind of > program that can do it. Plenty of hex dumpers do it, including "hd",

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-23 Thread Joe
On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 15:20:44 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: >2. I repeatedly mentioned/implied *DISPLAY*. > I never even hinted at editing. > I think you'll find that displaying a file as hex and ASCII is pretty much of a monopoly of hex editors. I don't know any ot

Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-23 Thread Richard Owlett
). *NOBODY* picked up on two key features I presumed obvious ;/ 1. For my problem domain, GUI is obvious way to go: a. Intuitive (IMMHO) connection of a selection in BOTH the ASCII an HEX views b. Presumption that GUI is more intuitive for "quick n dirty" c. I gave

Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-23 Thread Stefan Monnier
Emacs comes with `hexl-mode` which provides some of that. The `nhexl-mode` (which you can subsequently install via `M-x package-list RET`) is an alternative which provides a few extra features. > I need to: > 1. Simultaneously display in _both_ HEX and ASCII format I'd expect they

Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-22 Thread Linux-Fan
David Wright writes: On Wed 22 Jan 2020 at 16:46:19 (+0100), Linux-Fan wrote: > > My favorite hex editor is `dhex` (Debian package `dhex`). > From to the list of requirements, it does 4 of 6. I've used hexedit very occasionally. I installed dhex to try it out; unfortunately it refused at the fi

Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-22 Thread David Wright
On Wed 22 Jan 2020 at 16:46:19 (+0100), Linux-Fan wrote: > > My favorite hex editor is `dhex` (Debian package `dhex`). > From to the list of requirements, it does 4 of 6. I've used hexedit very occasionally. I installed dhex to try it out; unfortunately it refused at the first fence and merely ex

Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII (Quoting error)

2020-01-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 04:49:38PM +0100, Linux-Fan wrote: > > My favorite hex editor is `dhex` (Debian package `dhex`). > > > From to the list of requirements, it does 4 of 6. > > Excuse me, this is mis-quoted, it should of course have been this > (i.e. both lines attributed to me): > > > My fav

Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII (Quoting error)

2020-01-22 Thread Linux-Fan
Linux-Fan writes: Bob Weber writes: On 1/22/20 8:12 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm running Debian 9.8 with MATE desktop. I'm exploring a data file with the intention of eventually parsing it in a useful fashion. Just downloaded ghex. I like the display format. Its tools are inconvenient. Sugge

Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-22 Thread Linux-Fan
_both_ HEX and ASCII format Yes.  2. Know the current offset in *DECIMAL* format.     {knowing the offset also in HEX might be nice} No. dhex displays offset in hex only.  3. Goto to an offset - expressed in DECIMAL. No. dhex jumps to offsets in hex only.  4. Advance a specific numbe

Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-22 Thread David Wright
re inconvenient. > > I need to: > 1. Simultaneously display in _both_ HEX and ASCII format > 2. Know the current offset in *DECIMAL* format. > {knowing the offset also in HEX might be nice} > 3. Goto to an offset - expressed in DECIMAL. > 4. Advance a specific number

Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-22 Thread Bob Weber
display in _both_ HEX and ASCII format  2. Know the current offset in *DECIMAL* format.     {knowing the offset also in HEX might be nice}  3. Goto to an offset - expressed in DECIMAL.  4. Advance a specific number of bytes.  5. Search for an ASCII string.  6. Search for arbitrary sequence of bytes

Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-22 Thread Richard Owlett
I'm running Debian 9.8 with MATE desktop. I'm exploring a data file with the intention of eventually parsing it in a useful fashion. Just downloaded ghex. I like the display format. Its tools are inconvenient. I need to: 1. Simultaneously display in _both_ HEX and ASCII format 2

Re: Hex editor with ASCII line underneath the line of hex.

2019-10-16 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> Which hex editor shows a line of hex with the corresponding ASCII under the >> line of hex ? > I suspect that it shouldn't be too hard to get something working if you > start from nhexl-mode in Emacs: And indeed, I just added a `nhexl-separate-line` user config to nhexl

Re: Hex editor with ASCII line underneath the line of hex.

2019-10-15 Thread Anuradha Weeraman
On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:22:31AM +1300, C.T.F. Jansen wrote: > Which hex editor shows a line of hex with the corresponding ASCII under the > line of hex ? hexdump supports format strings to customize the output. There are few examples in the man page that may be useful. -- Regards Anuradha

Re: Hex editor with ASCII line underneath the line of hex.

2019-10-15 Thread Stefan Monnier
> (similar to the output of `od -t xz`). BTW, I see that `od -t x1c` is using a format like the one you're asking for (it's not an *editor*, tho). Stefan

Re: Hex editor with ASCII line underneath the line of hex.

2019-10-15 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Which hex editor shows a line of hex with the corresponding ASCII under the > line of hex ? I suspect that it shouldn't be too hard to get something working if you start from nhexl-mode in Emacs: E.g. from abcdefghabcdefgh you can go

Hex editor with ASCII line underneath the line of hex.

2019-10-15 Thread C.T.F. Jansen
Greetings, Which hex editor shows a line of hex with the corresponding ASCII under the line of hex ? Having the ASCII off to the right is of limited use. Looking at a formatted dump one sees the ASCII, EBCDIC etc *under* the hex and not far away on the other side of the page. shed is the

Re: so much for your ascii only emails and 80 char lines :)

2017-07-19 Thread Reco
encoding had it coming and deserves any critique just for being > hypocritical. The encoding in OP's e-mail works just fine for me. Sending pure HTML e-mail on the other hand in explicitly forbidden by [1]. > And btw. posting to a high volume mailinglist should always be ASCII > on

Re: so much for your ascii only emails and 80 char lines :)

2017-07-18 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 4:58 AM, Dominik George wrote: > it? Thanks! > topic and stop > gone horribly off- > that this thread has > all just agree > So, can we > Sent from my very colourful mailer which encodes as it pleases. > ROFCOL :) Just for reference, this thread just misses paralleling a

Re: so much for your ascii only emails and 80 char lines :)

2017-07-18 Thread Dominik George
it? Thanks! topic and stop gone horribly off- that this thread has all just agree So, can we Sent from my very colourful mailer which encodes as it pleases.

Re: so much for your ascii only emails and 80 char lines :)

2017-07-18 Thread Henning Follmann
But do not > blame the form, blame the substance. > Well, the OP complaining about HTML and using himself an equally stupid encoding had it coming and deserves any critique just for being hypocritical. And btw. posting to a high volume mailinglist should always be ASCII only and inte

Re: so much for your ascii only emails and 80 char lines :)

2017-07-18 Thread Fungi4All
From: geo...@nsup.org To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Le decadi 30 messidor, an CCXXV, mar...@martinbrandenburg.com a écrit : > I don"t read messages from you or in fact anyone at your domain, except > this one, because they"re written in base64. =If you see the base64, then your mail software is

Re: so much for your ascii only emails and 80 char lines :)

2017-07-18 Thread Nicolas George
Le decadi 30 messidor, an CCXXV, mar...@martinbrandenburg.com a écrit : > I don't read messages from you or in fact anyone at your domain, except > this one, because they're written in base64. If you see the base64, then your mail software is broken or hopelessly outdated. Technically, this mail w

Re: so much for your ascii only emails and 80 char lines :)

2017-07-18 Thread martin
> From fungil...@protonmail.com Tue Jul 18 13:32:11 2017 > Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 05:18:19 -0400 > To: debian users > From: Fungi4All > Reply-To: Fungi4All > Subject: Re: so much for your ascii only emails and 80 char lines :) > > This is a multi-par

Re: so much for your ascii only emails and 80 char lines :)

2017-07-18 Thread Fungi4All
Can you read it now? Nobody has ever complained about the encoding of English before. Unless you are the source of the spam! From: fungil...@protonmail.com It seems the virus has moved now to Turkey's smart phone community If we do the stats in a month or two this will be 90% of the daily traffic.

Re: so much for your ascii only emails and 80 char lines :)

2017-07-17 Thread martin
> From fungil...@protonmail.com Mon Jul 17 17:27:45 2017 > Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 16:18:46 -0400 > From: Fungi4All > Reply-To: Fungi4All > Subject: Re: so much for your ascii only emails and 80 char lines :) > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > This is a multi-par

Re: so much for your ascii only emails and 80 char lines :)

2017-07-17 Thread Fungi4All
It seems the virus has moved now to Turkey's smart phone community If we do the stats in a month or two this will be 90% of the daily traffic. When I use to run lists off of unix server and free open software in the past decade I can block messages or content based on format and based on coming fro

Re: libsdl1.2-dev – Nolonger supports Color Ascii Ourput (libcaca) - WHY?!

2012-09-04 Thread Jon Dowland
Please note that you tried to submit a bug but didn't get the syntax right, so it won't have worked. On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 05:17:06AM -0700, Nzvr Salamon wrote: > What the fuck? Why did you drop support for libcaca output. Check the changelog. It reads: libsdl1.2 (1.2.14-6.3) unstable; urgency

Re: libsdl1.2-dev – Nolonger supports Color Ascii Ourput (libcaca) - WHY?!

2012-09-04 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 05:17:06 -0700, Nzvr Salamon wrote: > What the fuck? Please refrain from bad wording and also from sending html posts... :-/ > Why did you drop support for libcaca output. You mean "us"? This list is for users not devels, we did "nothing". So better that you start first by

libsdl1.2-dev – Nolonger supports Color Ascii Ourput (libcaca) - WHY?!

2012-09-04 Thread Nzvr Salamon
What the fuck? Why did you drop support for libcaca output. Secondly, what are the commands to download the source, then change one setting (add the libcaca support to sdl), and then recompile a new sdl package? SDL_VIDEODRIVER=caca ./dgen SONIC1.BIN sdl: Couldn't init SDL: No available video d

Re: What are the 94 printable characters from the 128 characters of ASCII table?

2011-08-04 Thread Joel Rees
irst 128 characters of the ASCII table" > > it would have been easier to understand if they simply said to use > characters between 0x21 to 0x7e. Many programs that use passwords for whatever purpose do accept space. Many do not. Some with, for instance, underscore, or, for that matter,

Re: What are the 94 printable characters from the 128 characters of ASCII table?

2011-07-26 Thread Bob Proulx
shawn wilson wrote: > Ummm, earlier printers than that didn't have moveable heads like that. There > was this printer that used a chain with a few sets of letters and 80 > hammers. When the right letter moved under the proper hammer, it fired (and > if you asked it to print a row with letters in th

Re: What are the 94 printable characters from the 128 characters of ASCII table?

2011-07-26 Thread Bob Proulx
Paul E Condon wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > DEL 0x7f is a control character. It is not a printable character. > > And its history is interesting. > > The original name for DEL was RUBOUT. It was used by telegraphers to > rub out a mistaken punch in a paper tapes that they were preparing off > li

Re: What are the 94 printable characters from the 128 characters of ASCII table?

2011-07-26 Thread shawn wilson
On Jul 26, 2011 12:51 AM, "Bob Proulx" wrote: > > Paul E Condon wrote: > > but 2 are non printing: 0x20 and 0x7F > > I leave the last step as an exercise for the reader. ;-) > > I hate to make this thread longer... Sigh. > > Whether something is printable or not was easier to see in the old > day

Re: What are the 94 printable characters from the 128 characters of ASCII table?

2011-07-26 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 03:48:49PM +1000, yudi v wrote: > I am pretty sure you are mistaken, > > 126-32 = 94 > and space is a printable character. Space is a printable character. The C isprint(3) function says: #include #include #include int main() { char upper = 'a', lower = 'a'; for(;

Re: What are the 94 printable characters from the 128 characters of ASCII table?

2011-07-26 Thread Jon Dowland
Oh. I missed half the thread when I posted my reply. apologies for the noise. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110726091821.GH1860@pris

Re: What are the 94 printable characters from the 128 characters of ASCII table?

2011-07-25 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20110725_225047, Bob Proulx wrote: > Paul E Condon wrote: > > but 2 are non printing: 0x20 and 0x7F > > I leave the last step as an exercise for the reader. ;-) > > I hate to make this thread longer... Sigh. > > Whether something is printable or not was easier to see in the old > days when pr

Re: What are the 94 printable characters from the 128 characters of ASCII table?

2011-07-25 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20110726_120103, yudi v wrote: > Thanks Paul. > Was having a tough time trying to understand. > > Instead of saying the following: > > "It is highly advisable to only use the 94 printable characters from the > first 128 characters of the ASCII table" &g

Re: What are the 94 printable characters from the 128 characters of ASCII table?

2011-07-25 Thread Bob Proulx
Paul E Condon wrote: > but 2 are non printing: 0x20 and 0x7F > I leave the last step as an exercise for the reader. ;-) I hate to make this thread longer... Sigh. Whether something is printable or not was easier to see in the old days when printers had dot matrix or daisy wheels or selectric bal

Re: What are the 94 printable characters from the 128 characters of ASCII table?

2011-07-25 Thread yudi v
Thanks Paul. Was having a tough time trying to understand. Instead of saying the following: "It is highly advisable to only use the 94 printable characters from the first 128 characters of the ASCII table" it would have been easier to understand if they simply said to use characte

Re: What are the 94 printable characters from the 128 characters of ASCII table?

2011-07-25 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20110725_154849, yudi v wrote: > Hi Paul, > > I am pretty sure you are mistaken, > > 126-32 = 94 > and space is a printable character. > > > Yudi ascii is organized into four blocks of 32 symbols. ( 4 * 32 = 128 ) block 1 is all control functions, none print.

Re: What are the 94 printable characters from the 128 characters of ASCII table?

2011-07-25 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 09:51:12AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 01:02:45PM +0700, Ivan Shmakov wrote: > > > yudi v writes: > > > > > Hi Paul, > > > I am pretty sure you are mistaken, > > > > > 126-32 = 94 > > > > Let's try a simpler range: 32 to 32 is 1 charact

Re: What are the 94 printable characters from the 128 characters of ASCII table?

2011-07-25 Thread Roger Leigh
st the GNU implementation of the standard, not the standard itself. The answer is to be found in the ISO 2022 character set registry: http://www.itscj.ipsj.or.jp/ISO-IR/2-1.htm For US ASCII, it's this: http://www.itscj.ipsj.or.jp/ISO-IR/006.pdf And you can see that SPACE and DEL are missing (

Re: What are the 94 printable characters from the 128 characters of ASCII table?

2011-07-24 Thread Ivan Shmakov
6c P 6d P 6e P 6f P 70 P 71 P 72 P 73 P 74 P 75 P 76 P 77 P 78 P 79 P 7a P 7b P 7c P 7d P 7e P 7f 8081828384858687 … f8f9fafbfcfdfeff $ So, as per GNU Libc, the printable ASCII characters are 0x20 t

Re: What are the 94 printable characters from the 128 characters of ASCII table?

2011-07-24 Thread shawn wilson
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 01:48, yudi v wrote: > Hi Paul, > > I am pretty sure you are mistaken, > > 126-32 = 94 > and space is a printable character. > saying space is printable is like saying cr and/or lf or bs or tab etc are printable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.deb

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