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On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 12:39:21PM -0400, Brenda J. Butler wrote:
> Anyway, the chap who started the thread is right. The open
> source collection now isn't the same as it was when we-all learned
> linux. These days, it _is_ really confusing to try to learn it by
> reading what comes on the syste
On Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 09:22:50AM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> Mind you, I'm not complaining (my dog ate my flameproof suit, you
> understand); I'm just trying to hopefully illuminate what Brenda was
> saying. Or at least that's my take on it, but then, I'm an idiot and
> don't usually know what I
Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier wrote:
On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, Brenda J. Butler wrote:
I'm not complaining about open source stuff (on my home systems
that's all I use and I'm very grateful for it), but open source
has changed from when we learned it. It's hard to learn it
that way any more, because lot
On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, Brenda J. Butler wrote:
> > On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is misquoted - I actually wrote this.
> > The thing that got people like Karsten riled is the fact that this
> > guy expected everyone else to provide him with wonderful documentation,
> > on top of
It's not *that* hard. I was able to do it and I'm relatively new.
Just takes a little reading and a lot of effort (and this list)
Cameron Matheson
On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 12:39:21PM -0400, Brenda J. Butler wrote:
> > On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > The thing that got people lik
> On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The thing that got people like Karsten riled is the fact that this
> guy expected everyone else to provide him with wonderful documentation,
> on top of excellent software (something many are already trying to
> do), but in the same breath told every
on Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 11:08:13AM -0600, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier ([EMAIL
PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
<...>
> I don't know Karsten, but I have a feeling that I'd like him if
> I met him.
Oooh!! Ooohh Another candidate for my gullible-and-easily-persu
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 01:40:48PM -0500, Tim Kelley wrote:
> On Thursday 12 April 2001 13:52, Andrew D Dixon wrote:
>
> Not to mention they think of windows as free as well (probably only 30% of
> windows users actually paid for it), and don't understand the "free speech" /
> "free beer" distin
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 10:59:22AM -0700, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
> On Thursday 12 April 2001 10:08, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier wrote:
> I think Mr. Stokes could be VERY valuable to the linux cause, in time. I
> don't think however, that we should take a newbie and request them to start a
> docum
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 11:08:13AM -0600, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier wrote:
> I don't know Karsten, but I have a feeling that I'd like him if
> I met him.
me too. he's been amazingly helpful to me. (so far. :)
--
americans should never read anything so subversive as what's at
http://www.salon.com/
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 08:35:58AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> So, next time you feel the urge to impress everyone with threats of adding
> people to your killfile with "four keystrokes", think about the impression
> you are making. I have no respect for someone who has tons of skill and
> t
On Thursday 12 April 2001 13:52, Andrew D Dixon wrote:
Not to mention they think of windows as free as well (probably only 30% of
windows users actually paid for it), and don't understand the "free speech" /
"free beer" distinction. Notice it is also almost always Americans whining.
Don't see
%% [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
t> Ok, so let me get this straight. Calling people "dumb lazy idiots"
t> for wanting decent documentation is OK
No one is calling anyone a "dumb lazy idiot" for wanting decent
documentation.
Hell, _everyone_ wants decent documentation. We'd all _love_ decent
do
On Thursday 12 April 2001 10:08, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier wrote:
> So...arrogant newbie whiners should be tolerated?
Yes - as hard as it is to handle, but yes.
> Let's face it, the thing that pissed most people off about the user
> who stared this thread wasn't
Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 11:34:04AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> > > Tom writes:
> > > > ...bad name...arrogant...self-important...blowhard...
> > > >
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Sent: donderdag 12 april 2001 19:08
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: John Hasler; debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Should arrogant, self-important people be encouraged to use
Linux?
On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 11:34:04AM -0500, John Hasl
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 09:27:14AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Ok, so let me get this straight. Calling people "dumb lazy idiots" for
> wanting decent documentation is OK, but calling people on being arrogant is
> not.
The Linux community is full of people who have tre
On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 11:34:04AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> > Tom writes:
> > > ...bad name...arrogant...self-important...blowhard...
> > > ...being an ass...bloated sense of importance...an ass...
&
Maybe we should open up a [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailinglist ? or even publish a manual on how to REALLY piss someone off by
sending stupid, childish or even insulting mails to a PUBLIC list. I bet
this list even has people attached to it who're getting annoyed by the
amount of bullshit they have receiv
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 11:34:04AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Tom writes:
> > ...bad name...arrogant...self-important...blowhard...
> > ...being an ass...bloated sense of importance...an ass...
> > ...a lousy personality...
> > ...
> > Now, execute those four sim
Tom writes:
> ...bad name...arrogant...self-important...blowhard...
> ...being an ass...bloated sense of importance...an ass...
> ...a lousy personality...
> ...
> Now, execute those four simple keystrokes and add me to your killfile.
Ok. >plonk<
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PR
say I'm doing a
> fair job. And, yes, I've benefitted directly from my online rep for
> much of the past ten years -- the 'Net is an awesome way for a bright
> kid in any backwood of the world to make a literally worldwide
> reputation. What reputation, and to what end,
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