On Du, 19 apr 20, 18:40:44, Michael Howard wrote:
>
> I don't think apt and dpkg are linked in this respect, they didn't used to
> be. i.e. holding through apt had no affect on dpkg.
More like apt didn't have any interface to set/clear holds.
It seems to me like dpkg is the "keeper" of hold stat
On 2020-04-19 19:11 +0200, Sven Hartge wrote:
> The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> Does holding a package to not-installed even work? I thought I'd tried
>> that in the past, and had the result be ignored.
>
> No, it does work. Or at least it should, since you are holding the
> package state, which is "uni
On 19/04/2020 18:27, The Wanderer wrote:
On 2020-04-19 at 13:08, Michael Lange wrote:
Hi,
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 12:57:12 -0400 The Wanderer
wrote:
Does holding a package to not-installed even work? I thought I'd
tried that in the past, and had the result be ignored.
not sure about that, man
On 2020-04-19 at 13:08, Michael Lange wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 12:57:12 -0400 The Wanderer
> wrote:
>
>> Does holding a package to not-installed even work? I thought I'd
>> tried that in the past, and had the result be ignored.
>
> not sure about that, man apt-mark says
>
> " hold
The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2020-04-19 at 12:46, Michael Howard wrote:
>> On 19/04/2020 17:34, Michael Lange wrote:
>>> But then, I noticed that sudo-ldap is not actually installed here,
>>> and in fact it appears to conflict with sudo so apparently both
>>> cannot coexist.
>>>
>>> So maybe the ba
Hi,
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 12:57:12 -0400
The Wanderer wrote:
> Does holding a package to not-installed even work? I thought I'd tried
> that in the past, and had the result be ignored.
not sure about that, man apt-mark says
" hold is used to mark a package as held back, which will prevent the
pa
On 2020-04-19 at 12:46, Michael Howard wrote:
> On 19/04/2020 17:34, Michael Lange wrote:
>> But then, I noticed that sudo-ldap is not actually installed here,
>> and in fact it appears to conflict with sudo so apparently both
>> cannot coexist.
>>
>> So maybe the basic problem here is that we
On 19/04/2020 17:34, Michael Lange wrote:
Hi,
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 09:25:18 +0200
Sven Hartge wrote:
Michael Howard wrote:
root@bamford:/etc# apt-mark hold sudo sudo-ldap
sudo set on hold.
sudo-ldap set on hold.
root@bamford:/etc# apt-mark showhold
bash
dash
sudo
sudo-ldap
Still good, but t
Hi,
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 09:25:18 +0200
Sven Hartge wrote:
> Michael Howard wrote:
>
> > root@bamford:/etc# apt-mark hold sudo sudo-ldap
> > sudo set on hold.
> > sudo-ldap set on hold.
> > root@bamford:/etc# apt-mark showhold
> > bash
> > dash
> > sudo
> > sudo-ldap
>
> > Still good, but then
Michael Howard wrote:
> root@bamford:/etc# apt-mark hold sudo sudo-ldap
> sudo set on hold.
> sudo-ldap set on hold.
> root@bamford:/etc# apt-mark showhold
> bash
> dash
> sudo
> sudo-ldap
> Still good, but then,
> root@bamford:/etc# apt-mark hold xterm
> xterm set on hold.
> root@bamford:/etc#
Hi,
On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 21:43:09 +0100
Michael Howard wrote:
> On 18/04/2020 21:34, Michael Howard wrote:
> > On 18/04/2020 21:02, Sven Hartge wrote:
(...)
> > Still good, but then,
> >
> > root@bamford:/etc# apt-mark hold xterm
> > xterm set on hold.
> > root@bamford:/etc# apt-mark showhold
> >
On 18/04/2020 21:34, Michael Howard wrote:
On 18/04/2020 21:02, Sven Hartge wrote:
Michael Howard wrote:
I've not used apt-mark much (or it's previous methods) so I'm a bit
confused by what I'm seeing.
If I use 'apt-mark hold ' and then 'apt-mark
showhold' I get ' ' listed.
If I then do 'apt
On 18/04/2020 21:02, Sven Hartge wrote:
Michael Howard wrote:
I've not used apt-mark much (or it's previous methods) so I'm a bit
confused by what I'm seeing.
If I use 'apt-mark hold ' and then 'apt-mark
showhold' I get ' ' listed.
If I then do 'apt-mark hold ' followed by 'apt-mark showhold'
Michael Howard wrote:
> I've not used apt-mark much (or it's previous methods) so I'm a bit
> confused by what I'm seeing.
> If I use 'apt-mark hold ' and then 'apt-mark
> showhold' I get ' ' listed.
> If I then do 'apt-mark hold ' followed by 'apt-mark showhold'
> I get only '' listed. This
I've not used apt-mark much (or it's previous methods) so I'm a bit
confused by what I'm seeing.
If I use 'apt-mark hold ' and then 'apt-mark
showhold' I get ' ' listed.
If I then do 'apt-mark hold ' followed by 'apt-mark showhold'
I get only '' listed. This can't be right, surely?
Am I m
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