Recovered!! (Re: Anyone Care to Critique my Apt Preferences? (was Re: apt-cacher as package rollback buffer))

2010-03-01 Thread Freeman
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:01:44PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > Or, just use "sudo dpkg -i old-package.deb" (maybe in chroot). > > Please read "Chapter 2. Debian package management" > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-refere

Re: Anyone Care to Critique my Apt Preferences? (was Re: apt-cacher as package rollback buffer)

2010-02-28 Thread Freeman
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 09:22:34PM -0500, Celejar wrote: > On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 09:05:58 -0800 > Freeman wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:01:44PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > ... > > > > Osamu > > > > OMG! > > > > Osamu as in "Debian Reference Copyright 2007-2009 Osamu Aoki"? > > > > T

Re: Anyone Care to Critique my Apt Preferences? (was Re: apt-cacher as package rollback buffer)

2010-02-27 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 09:05:58 -0800 Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:01:44PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: ... > > Osamu > > OMG! > > Osamu as in "Debian Reference Copyright 2007-2009 Osamu Aoki"? > > That was an undertaking. > > There is a great deal of clarity in the way the referenc

Re: Recovered!! (was Re: Anyone Care to Critique my Apt Preferences? (was Re: apt-cacher as package rollback buffer))

2010-02-27 Thread Tony Nelson
On 10-02-27 12:04:08, Freeman wrote: ... > Following the big xserver-org/mesa seg-fault/crash I was at grub > playing space invaders. > > 1.) I could reach the diversion to maintenance mode where it > recommended running e2fsck on mounted partitions, which I eventually > did, reluctantly. I wou

Re: Anyone Care to Critique my Apt Preferences? (was Re: apt-cacher as package rollback buffer)

2010-02-27 Thread Freeman
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:01:44PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 11:41:26AM -0800, Freeman wrote: > > > In which case, I pin the rolled back version to 1001. The preferences file > > can live on in moderation for the sake of learning. > > Or, just use "sudo dpkg -i o

Recovered!! (was Re: Anyone Care to Critique my Apt Preferences? (was Re: apt-cacher as package rollback buffer))

2010-02-27 Thread Freeman
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:01:44PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 11:41:26AM -0800, Freeman wrote: > > > > My ego may be the more delicately balanced but my system is the more > > > > precious. :) > > > > > > This squeeze testing cycle has been rough because of major t

Re: Anyone Care to Critique my Apt Preferences? (was Re: apt-cacher as package rollback buffer)

2010-02-22 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 11:41:26AM -0800, Freeman wrote: > > > My ego may be the more delicately balanced but my system is the more > > > precious. :) > > > > This squeeze testing cycle has been rough because of major transitions. > > My recent upgrade in one of the multiboot setup from stabl

Re: Anyone Care to Critique my Apt Preferences? (was Re: apt-cacher as package rollback buffer)

2010-02-21 Thread Freeman
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 06:41:35PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:15:24PM -0800, Freeman wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 05:10:26PM -0800, evenso wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 02:33:05PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > > > On Monday 15 February 201

Re: Anyone Care to Critique my Apt Preferences? (was Re: apt-cacher as package rollback buffer)

2010-02-20 Thread Freeman
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 06:41:35PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:15:24PM -0800, Freeman wrote: > > I'd rather find out that the above Preferences are destructive here than > > during an install! > > Your setting will install latest experimental of a package which

Re: Anyone Care to Critique my Apt Preferences? (was Re: apt-cacher as package rollback buffer)

2010-02-20 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 20 February 2010 11:24:01 Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sat,20.Feb.10, 18:41:35, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > FYI: > > The upcoming apt_preferences(5) manpage (e.g.: apt_0.7.26~exp2_i386.deb) > > states: > > > >Preferences are a strong power in the hands of a system > > administrator but

Re: Anyone Care to Critique my Apt Preferences? (was Re: apt-cacher as package rollback buffer)

2010-02-20 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat,20.Feb.10, 18:41:35, Osamu Aoki wrote: > FYI: > The upcoming apt_preferences(5) manpage (e.g.: apt_0.7.26~exp2_i386.deb) > states: > >Preferences are a strong power in the hands of a system administrator >but they can become also their biggest nightmare if used without ca

Re: Anyone Care to Critique my Apt Preferences? (was Re: apt-cacher as package rollback buffer)

2010-02-20 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <20100220094135.gc12...@osamu.debian.net>, Osamu Aoki wrote: >Right >now, stable and testing have too much gap usually to be useful. That's not true. I mix stable/backports/testing/unstable/experimental. Roughly 78% of my systems is packages from stable with the remainder mostly from testin

Re: Anyone Care to Critique my Apt Preferences? (was Re: apt-cacher as package rollback buffer)

2010-02-20 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:15:24PM -0800, Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 05:10:26PM -0800, evenso wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 02:33:05PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > > On Monday 15 February 2010 13:30:19 Freeman wrote: > > > > > > > > > However, could a rollback

Anyone Care to Critique my Apt Preferences? (was Re: apt-cacher as package rollback buffer)

2010-02-19 Thread Freeman
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 05:10:26PM -0800, evenso wrote: > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 02:33:05PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > On Monday 15 February 2010 13:30:19 Freeman wrote: > > > > > > However, could a rollback represent an incursion on the priority system? > > > > With testing/unsta

Re: apt-cacher as package rollback buffer

2010-02-15 Thread Freeman
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 02:33:05PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Monday 15 February 2010 13:30:19 Freeman wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:59:33PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > > > > > Mixed systems that are supported with no configuration change: > > > stable/backports

Re: apt-cacher as package rollback buffer

2010-02-15 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 15 February 2010 13:30:19 Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:59:33PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > On Monday 15 February 2010 12:22:08 Freeman wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:18:51AM -0500, Rob Owens wrote: > > > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:32:10AM -0800, free

Re: apt-cacher as package rollback buffer

2010-02-15 Thread Freeman
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:59:33PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Monday 15 February 2010 12:22:08 Freeman wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:18:51AM -0500, Rob Owens wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:32:10AM -0800, freeman wrote: > > > > Is pinning really necessary or can I get

Re: apt-cacher as package rollback buffer

2010-02-15 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 15 February 2010 12:22:08 Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:18:51AM -0500, Rob Owens wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:32:10AM -0800, freeman wrote: > > > Is pinning really necessary or can I get by with aptitude and my > > > apt.conf file: > > > > > > APT::Default-Release "

Re: apt-cacher as package rollback buffer

2010-02-15 Thread Freeman
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:18:51AM -0500, Rob Owens wrote: > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:32:10AM -0800, freeman wrote: > > > I've used apt-cacher, and it worked well. However, I recommend > apt-cacher-ng (which I'm using now). I have Ubuntu and Debian machines > on my LAN, and apt-cacher did not

Re: apt-cacher as package rollback buffer

2010-02-15 Thread Rob Owens
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:32:10AM -0800, freeman wrote: > I installed apt-cacher because I wanted a way to reliably roll back one > version of a package in testing. This way, if a new version is buggy, the > way the recent xserver-xorg/mesa was for me, and I let it slip by > apt-listbugs, I may p

apt-cacher as package rollback buffer

2010-02-15 Thread freeman
I installed apt-cacher because I wanted a way to reliably roll back one version of a package in testing. This way, if a new version is buggy, the way the recent xserver-xorg/mesa was for me, and I let it slip by apt-listbugs, I may possibly choose the old version from apt-cacher rather than nearly