Re: alternative file systems

2014-10-25 Thread lee
Reco writes: >> One of the disadvantages with mdadm is that it can severely impact >> performance. > > Agreed. Still, I view RAID as a disaster prevention tool first, and any > performance increases come only second if they do at all. Yes --- disk failures are so frequent that there's no way to

Re: alternative file systems

2014-10-18 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 19/10/14 00:14, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 12:06:17 +0400 > Reco wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 18:24:16 -0400 >> Steve Litt wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 03:00:26 +0200 >>> lee wrote: >>> >>> But when it eats files and is 10 years behind, why are people >>>

Re: alternative file systems

2014-10-18 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 12:06:17 +0400 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 18:24:16 -0400 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 03:00:26 +0200 > > lee wrote: > > > > > > > But when it eats files and is 10 years behind, why are people > > > buying it? > > > > > > So how can we sa

Re: alternative file systems

2014-10-18 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 18:24:16 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 03:00:26 +0200 > lee wrote: > > > > But when it eats files and is 10 years behind, why are people buying > > it? > > > > So how can we safely store large amounts of data? > > I thought Postgres was supposed to b

Re: alternative file systems

2014-10-18 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 03:00:26 +0200 lee wrote: > Reco writes: > > > On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 03:33:15AM +0200, lee wrote: > >> > A correct guess. A recommended minimum is kernel 3.14 - [2]. > >> > >> So this is a rather new feature. How reliable and how well does it > >> work? > > > > I w

Re: alternative file systems

2014-10-17 Thread lee
Steve Litt writes: > On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 03:00:26 +0200 > lee wrote: > > >> But when it eats files and is 10 years behind, why are people buying >> it? >> >> So how can we safely store large amounts of data? > > I thought Postgres was supposed to be powerful, stable, reliable, and > great for l

Re: alternative file systems

2014-10-17 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 03:00:26 +0200 lee wrote: > But when it eats files and is 10 years behind, why are people buying > it? > > So how can we safely store large amounts of data? I thought Postgres was supposed to be powerful, stable, reliable, and great for lots of data. SteveT Steve Litt

Re: alternative file systems

2014-10-17 Thread lee
John Holland writes: > I don't see zfs as super fast, lvm based raid would be faster. But > the snapshots and other features are awesome. I love cloning a vm > instantly. And not to forget the checksumming :) The checksumming is the nicer the more data you store. But seriously store large amo

Re: alternative file systems

2014-10-17 Thread lee
John Holland writes: > http://zfsonlinux.org/faq.html#WhatKernelVersionsAreSupported "Debian 7.0 (Wheezy) - x86_64" Unfortunately, that isn't sufficiently recent. -- Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons might swallow us. Finally, this fear has become reasonab

Re: alternative file systems

2014-10-17 Thread lee
Reco writes: > On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 03:33:15AM +0200, lee wrote: >> > A correct guess. A recommended minimum is kernel 3.14 - [2]. >> >> So this is a rather new feature. How reliable and how well does it >> work? > > I wouldn't trust my data to that feature :) It has 'experimental' and > 'bi

Re: alternative file systems

2014-10-13 Thread Reco
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 03:33:15AM +0200, lee wrote: > > A correct guess. A recommended minimum is kernel 3.14 - [2]. > > So this is a rather new feature. How reliable and how well does it > work? I wouldn't trust my data to that feature :) It has 'experimental' and 'biohazard' labels strapped e

Re: alternative file systems (was: Re: lvm: creating a snapshot)

2014-10-12 Thread John Holland
http://zfsonlinux.org/faq.html#WhatKernelVersionsAreSupported On October 10, 2014 9:20:50 PM EDT, lee wrote: >John Holland writes: > >> I'm having very good results using their repo and DKMS system to >build >> support into kernel modules. It's very easy to set up. I'm using it >> with Linux 3.2

Re: alternative file systems

2014-10-12 Thread John Holland
I've been running Zfsonlinux.org zfs on debian for maybe two years. I don't have root fs on zfs. I keep a working copy of the system dirs I have mounted on zfs on ext3. (Var and usr). ONE time, the dkms had problems and I was glad I had those extra copies (rsync from the zfs ones in a cron job)

Re: alternative file systems

2014-10-12 Thread lee
Reco writes: > Hi. > > On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 03:20:50 +0200 > lee wrote: > >> > The license of ZFS makes it impossible to be part of >> > the kernel per se. The DKMS system is well known for supporting kernel >> > modules for video and wireless hardware among others. >> >> So there isn't really

Re: alternative file systems

2014-10-12 Thread lee
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI writes: > On 10/10/2014 10:20 PM, lee wrote: >>> The license of ZFS makes it impossible to be part of >>> the kernel per se. The DKMS system is well known for supporting kernel >>> modules for video and wireless hardware among others. >> So there isn't really any way to tell

Re: alternative file systems (was: Re: lvm: creating a snapshot)

2014-10-11 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 03:20:50 +0200 lee wrote: > > The license of ZFS makes it impossible to be part of > > the kernel per se. The DKMS system is well known for supporting kernel > > modules for video and wireless hardware among others. > > So there isn't really any way to tell whether it w

Re: alternative file systems

2014-10-11 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 10/10/2014 10:20 PM, lee wrote: >> The license of ZFS makes it impossible to be part of >> the kernel per se. The DKMS system is well known for supporting kernel >> modules for video and wireless hardware among others. > So there isn't really any way to tell whether it works or not? Which > ker

alternative file systems (was: Re: lvm: creating a snapshot)

2014-10-10 Thread lee
John Holland writes: > I'm having very good results using their repo and DKMS system to build > support into kernel modules. It's very easy to set up. I'm using it > with Linux 3.2.0. Does it work with Debians 3.16 kernels? > The license of ZFS makes it impossible to be part of > the kernel per