On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 07:20 Nicolas George wrote:
...
> Tom Browder (12023-03-05):
> > Yes, but please use its new name, Raku. Note new releases come out
> monthly
> so you shouldn't use the Debian packages since they are way behind. We
> have
I shouldn't have said "you shouldn't use the Debi
On Sun 05 Mar 2023 at 16:30:10 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 05, 2023 at 02:37:48PM -0600, David Wright wrote:
> > There are many lists of dangerous aliases on the web, but I haven't
> > found a list of such aliases that can't be transcribed into functions.
>
> Here's one document:
>
Le 3/4/23 à 09:22, Ken Young a écrit :
Hello,
Hi Ken!
3) the content of bash script
$ cat get.sh
#!/bin/bash
source ~/.bash_profile
k get node
4) alias can't work
$ ./get.sh
./get.sh: line 5: k: command not found
Two options :
1. either use #!/bin/bash -i as your shebang.
The
On Sun, Mar 05, 2023 at 02:37:48PM -0600, David Wright wrote:
> There are many lists of dangerous aliases on the web, but I haven't
> found a list of such aliases that can't be transcribed into functions.
Here's one document:
https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/aliases.html
On Sat 04 Mar 2023 at 12:23:58 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 04, 2023 at 11:14:39AM -0600, David Wright wrote:
> > > This use is discouraged
> >
> > There's a place for warning about the use of aliases in, say,
> > Greg's BashPitfalls, or books, but not here.
>
> Discouraging th
On Sun, Mar 05, 2023 at 02:19:38PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
> Tom Browder (12023-03-05):
> > Yes, but please use its new name, Raku. Note new releases come out monthly
> > so you shouldn't use the Debian packages since they are way behind. We have
> > a member on the release team who provides D
Tom Browder (12023-03-05):
> Yes, but please use its new name, Raku. Note new releases come out monthly
> so you shouldn't use the Debian packages since they are way behind. We have
> a member on the release team who provides Debian packages as "rakudo-pkg"
> so apt/aptitude update/upgrade work as
On Sun, Mar 05, 2023 at 07:30:18PM +0800, Ken Young wrote:
> Is perl6 production ready?
Of course. But be aware that it is quite a different language.
> I have not used perl for a long time.
If you prefer the "old" Perl (I do, for... reasons), it's still
being maintained actively, too.
Cheers
-
On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 05:30 Ken Young wrote:
> Is perl6 production ready?
>
Yes, but please use its new name, Raku. Note new releases come out monthly
so you shouldn't use the Debian packages since they are way behind. We have
a member on the release team who provides Debian packages as "rakudo
Is perl6 production ready?
I have not used perl for a long time.
Sincerely,
Ken Young
On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 7:28 PM Tom Browder wrote:
> My take:
>
> I use aliases heavily in my shell (bash), but I rarely use bash scripting
> at all.
>
> For any serious scripting, since about 2016 I'ved used
My take:
I use aliases heavily in my shell (bash), but I rarely use bash scripting
at all.
For any serious scripting, since about 2016 I'ved used Raku (formerly Perl
6). Before that I used Perl. Both are much easier to use.
-Tom
On Sun, Mar 05, 2023 at 09:26:41AM +0800, Ken Young wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 4, 2023 at 5:53 PM David wrote:
> > Debian's default shell is 'dash'. Its manual, readable using 'man dash',
> > says
> my debian 11's default shell is just bash.
>
> root@nxacloud-bloghost:~# echo $SHELL
>
> /bin/bash
Bo
On Sat, Mar 4, 2023 at 5:53 PM David wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Mar 2023 at 19:30, Ken Young wrote:
>
> > Do you know why my alias can't work in the bash script?
> > The info is as follows.
> >
> > 1) this alias does exist
> > $ alias |grep 'k='
> > alias k='minikube kubectl --'
> >
> > 2) it also exis
On Sat, Mar 04, 2023 at 11:14:39AM -0600, David Wright wrote:
> > This use is discouraged
>
> There's a place for warning about the use of aliases in, say,
> Greg's BashPitfalls, or books, but not here.
Discouraging the use of legacy features that are considered dangerous
in modern usage is f
On Sat 04 Mar 2023 at 20:52:15 (+1100), David wrote:
> Hi. Friends don't help friends to do bad things :)
>
> Debian's default shell is 'dash'. Its manual, readable using 'man dash',
> says
>
> Aliases provide a convenient way for naive users to create shorthands
> for commands without h
On Sun, Mar 05, 2023 at 01:39:35AM +1100, David wrote:
> I am aware. 'man dash' better describes how aliases should be
> used in modern times,
???
Is this the paragraph you mean?
Aliases provide a convenient way for naive users to create shorthands for
commands without having to learn
On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 at 00:12, Tom Furie wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 04, 2023 at 08:52:15PM +1100, David wrote:
> > Debian's default shell is 'dash'. Its manual, readable using 'man dash',
> > says
>
> The script explicitly calls bash. The rest of your point is still
> (coincidentally) valid though, as it
On Sat, Mar 04, 2023 at 08:52:15PM +1100, David wrote:
> Debian's default shell is 'dash'. Its manual, readable using 'man dash',
> says
The script explicitly calls bash. The rest of your point is still
(coincidentally) valid though, as it would be in most of the popular shells
as far as I'm aware
On Sat, 4 Mar 2023 at 19:30, Ken Young wrote:
> Do you know why my alias can't work in the bash script?
> The info is as follows.
>
> 1) this alias does exist
> $ alias |grep 'k='
> alias k='minikube kubectl --'
>
> 2) it also exists in .bash_profile
> $ cat ~/.bash_profile |grep 'k='
> alias k=
On Sat, Mar 04, 2023 at 10:23:24AM +0100, Kamil Jońca wrote:
> Ken Young writes:
> [..]
>
> I am not bash expert (prefer zsh) but as far as I know they are
> expadnded during interactive session only, not in scripts.
That's at least what the man page says (man bash(1)):
ALIASES
Aliases allo
Ken Young writes:
[..]
I am not bash expert (prefer zsh) but as far as I know they are
expadnded during interactive session only, not in scripts.
>
> $ ./get.sh
>
> ./get.sh: line 5: k: command not found
>
https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bash.html#Aliases
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Hello,
Do you know why my alias can't work in the bash script?
The info is as follows.
1) this alias does exist
$ alias |grep 'k='
alias k='minikube kubectl --'
2) it also exists in .bash_profile
$ cat ~/.bash_profile |grep 'k='
alias k="minikube kubectl --"
3) the content of bash script
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