Re: accented chars. shown as question marks in non-browser tools, sarge

2007-03-09 Thread Thomas Dickey
Arlie Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sarge and etch offer two packages containing xterm - one of which > calls itself something like XTERM(unicode), except not quite that. Perhaps you're thinking of rxvt-unicode (which is not xterm). -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://

Re: accented chars. shown as question marks in non-browser tools, sarge

2007-03-09 Thread Thomas Dickey
H.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was helping a friend setup his system with Indic fonts with unicode > support some time ago (a few months). We couldn't get it working in > xterm but it was a breeze to get gnome-terminal and konsole working with Reading your comment closely, it appears that

Re: accented chars. shown as question marks in non-browser tools, sarge

2007-03-09 Thread Thomas Dickey
H.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thomas Dickey wrote: >> H.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Arlie Stephens wrote: >> I've got the same basic problem with just about every tool I use, notably my email client mutt. Other versions of linux have somehow >> >>> Do you use mutt in xterm? If

Re: accented chars. shown as question marks in non-browser tools, sarge

2007-03-08 Thread H.S.
Arlie Stephens wrote: Well, what I got was a different kind of gobbletygook. I presume it won't cut and paste ;-) but looking at a message that should be quoting Icelandic, I'm seeing improbably characters like a capital A with a horizontal bar across it, embedded in the middle of words. (This i

Re: accented chars. shown as question marks in non-browser tools, sarge

2007-03-08 Thread Arlie Stephens
On Mar 08 2007, H.S. wrote: > Thomas Dickey wrote: > >H.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Arlie Stephens wrote: > > > >>>I've got the same basic problem with just about every tool I use, > >>>notably my email client mutt. Other versions of linux have somehow > > > >>Do you use mutt in xterm? If so,

Re: accented chars. shown as question marks in non-browser tools, sarge

2007-03-08 Thread H.S.
Thomas Dickey wrote: H.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Arlie Stephens wrote: I've got the same basic problem with just about every tool I use, notably my email client mutt. Other versions of linux have somehow Do you use mutt in xterm? If so, it will be very difficult to get this right. Try

Re: accented chars. shown as question marks in non-browser tools, sarge

2007-03-08 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 13:10:13 -0800, Arlie Stephens wrote: [...] > And let me guess - there's no way to automatically determine what > encoding a given message may contain, and the mutt mail client > probably cannot switch encodings on the fly. The charset should be given in the header of th

Re: accented chars. shown as question marks in non-browser tools, sarge

2007-03-08 Thread Arlie Stephens
On Mar 08 2007, Arlie Stephens wrote: > > 3. Make sure the relevant language fonts are installed. > > It looks like this is the problem. Not the fonts but the locales - the > only locales I have are 'C' and 'POSIX', at least on the system I use > most frequently. > > Interestingly, another sar

Re: accented chars. shown as question marks in non-browser tools, sarge

2007-03-08 Thread Arlie Stephens
On Mar 08 2007, Arlie Stephens wrote: > > Hi, > > Thanks for the detailed suggestions and explanation. I can't test this > immediately, but from what I can check, I think it's going to work. Well, I'm now at home, trying this, and it didn't quite work - the bottom line being that not all the mes

Re: accented chars. shown as question marks in non-browser tools, sarge

2007-03-08 Thread John L Fjellstad
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arlie Stephens) writes: > Etch _claimed_ to default to UTF-8 - not my preference, but any > consistent and working setup is better than nothing - and I need to > check whether _that_ encoding actually works. (How can I find some > text that's definitely encoded in that format?)

Re: accented chars. shown as question marks in non-browser tools, sarge

2007-03-08 Thread Arlie Stephens
Hi, Thanks for the detailed suggestions and explanation. I can't test this imemdiatley, but from what I can check, I think it's going to work. On Mar 08 2007, H.S. wrote: > Arlie Stephens wrote: > > > > >I've got the same basic problem with just about every tool I use, > >notably my email client

Re: accented chars. shown as question marks in non-browser tools, sarge

2007-03-08 Thread Thomas Dickey
H.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Finally, open gnome-terminal or konsole and fire up mutt. You should see > various language characters in all their glory. BTW, xterm does not > support UTF-8 properly yet. that, or you're not reading the manpage. (hint: provide a useful bug report) -- Thomas

Re: accented chars. shown as question marks in non-browser tools, sarge

2007-03-08 Thread Thomas Dickey
H.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Arlie Stephens wrote: >> >> I've got the same basic problem with just about every tool I use, >> notably my email client mutt. Other versions of linux have somehow > Do you use mutt in xterm? If so, it will be very difficult to get this > right. Try this: yawn

Re: accented chars. shown as question marks in non-browser tools, sarge

2007-03-08 Thread H.S.
Arlie Stephens wrote: I've got the same basic problem with just about every tool I use, notably my email client mutt. Other versions of linux have somehow Do you use mutt in xterm? If so, it will be very difficult to get this right. Try this: 1. Use gnome-terminal or konsole (at least it ou

accented chars. shown as question marks in non-browser tools, sarge

2007-03-08 Thread Arlie Stephens
Hi All, On Mar 08 2007, H.S. wrote: > > Hello, > > In Debian Etch Mozilla browser (Iceape), I notice that sometimes > accented characters are not displayed properly. They are shown as > question marks in black diamonds. For example, on this web page (CNN): > http://www.time.com/time/nation/art