On 18/08/2021 21:16, Harald Dunkel wrote:
...sid becomes the next release in 2 years
Sid is always sid.
Testing (now Bookworm) will become stable in ~2 years.
--
John
On 2021-08-18 14:16 +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote:
> On 8/17/21 21:55, Sven Joachim wrote:
>> On 2021-08-17 19:59 +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> How can I make sure I don't have to change passwords on 400+ hosts?
>> Do not run sid on 400+ hosts. Do not run testing either, especially
>> in
>>
On 8/17/21 21:55, Sven Joachim wrote:
On 2021-08-17 19:59 +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote:
How can I make sure I don't have to change passwords on 400+ hosts?
Do not run sid on 400+ hosts. Do not run testing either, especially in
the first months after a release.
Of course not. But sid become
On 2021-08-17 21:55 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2021-08-17 19:59 +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote:
>
>> After the most recent update of a host running sid there was a
>> password change dialog:
>>
>> You are required to change your password immediately (administr
On 2021-08-17 19:59 +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote:
> After the most recent update of a host running sid there was a
> password change dialog:
>
> You are required to change your password immediately (administrator enforced).
> You are required to change your password immediately
After the most recent update of a host running sid there was a
password change dialog:
You are required to change your password immediately (administrator enforced).
You are required to change your password immediately (administrator enforced).
That would be me, but I cannot remember having set
On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 11:57:32 +
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 02:31:42PM -, Curt wrote:
> >If any survey was to occur, perhaps it would have been best to engage in
> >it preliminarily.
>
> I think that's a little unreasonable. On a relaxed list such as this, I
> don't
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 02:31:42PM -, Curt wrote:
If any survey was to occur, perhaps it would have been best to engage in
it preliminarily.
I think that's a little unreasonable. On a relaxed list such as this, I
don't think posters can be expected to put in the kind of research work
that m
Celejar wrote:
> It will often be somewhat more complicated. Many smarthosts will refuse
> to accept mail if the envelope 'From' and / or the email 'From:' header
> do not match the user's account name with the smarthost, so address
> rewriting will be necessary.
>From what I know is that sooner
On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 18:56:50 -0600
David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 22 Feb 2019 at 14:16:43 (+), Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 02:08:40PM -, Curt wrote:
> > > What Linux mail user agents lack this feature, if it is uncommon?
> >
> > I thought it was uncommon, but perhap
On Fri 22 Feb 2019 at 14:16:43 (+), Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 02:08:40PM -, Curt wrote:
> > What Linux mail user agents lack this feature, if it is uncommon?
>
> I thought it was uncommon, but perhaps it isn't. I'm not going to spend
> my time exhaustively surveying
On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 14:16:43 +
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 02:08:40PM -, Curt wrote:
> >What Linux mail user agents lack this feature, if it is uncommon?
>
> I thought it was uncommon, but perhaps it isn't. I'm not going to spend
> my time exhaustively surveying the
On 2019-02-22, Reco wrote:
>>
>> What Linux mail user agents lack this feature, if it is uncommon?
>
> Let's see.
> kmail, balsa, evolution - basically anything that's either shipped with
> DE, or written with "Modern App" approach in mind.
Kmail has it:
https://docs.kde.org/trunk5/en/pim/kmai
Hi.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 02:08:40PM -, Curt wrote:
> On 2019-02-22, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 09:37:06AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >>> (2) Mutt has a feature that lets you send an EXACT copy of a message
> >>> to a different address, preserving all of t
On 2019-02-22, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 02:08:40PM -, Curt wrote:
>>What Linux mail user agents lack this feature, if it is uncommon?
>
> I thought it was uncommon, but perhaps it isn't. I'm not going to spend
> my time exhaustively surveying them to be sure. Perhaps i
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 02:08:40PM -, Curt wrote:
What Linux mail user agents lack this feature, if it is uncommon?
I thought it was uncommon, but perhaps it isn't. I'm not going to spend
my time exhaustively surveying them to be sure. Perhaps it's just not
generally a well-known feature.
On 2019-02-22, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 09:37:06AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> (2) Mutt has a feature that lets you send an EXACT copy of a message
>>> to a different address, preserving all of the headers and content
>>> verbatim. Mutt calls this "bouncing".
>>
>>If t
Hi.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 10:52:37AM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> The same result can be achieved with a procmail recipe, or a shell
> script, if you have access to the raw mail.
... and if you do not - you're not using a proper e-mail client anyway.
Reco
On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 09:37:06AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
(2) Mutt has a feature that lets you send an EXACT copy of a message
to a different address, preserving all of the headers and content
verbatim. Mutt calls this "bouncing".
If this is such a good feature, why is mutt the only agent
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 08:36:06AM -, Curt wrote:
[...]
> Whoever came up with the idea of calling the redirection of a message a
> bounce, when the term was already in use for 'Return to sender/Address
> unknown/No such number/No such zone' (hi Elvis!) should be sent to bed
> with no dessert
On 2019-02-21, Celejar wrote:
>>
>> And as far as I know, fetchmail has no ability/facility to bounce a
>> message. Fetchmail-6.3.26 IIRC. Locally built from tarball.
>
> 'Bouncing' a message is typically done by a MUA (Kmail, in your case),
> not the MDA (fetchmail, in your case). Other MUAs be
On Thursday 21 February 2019 11:20:52 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 08:21:00AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 21 February 2019 03:59:37 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:45:50AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > You can also h
On Thursday 21 February 2019 09:59:53 Celejar wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 08:40:28 -0500
>
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 21 February 2019 08:25:54 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 08:21:00AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:45:50AM +0300,
On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 08:40:28 -0500
Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 21 February 2019 08:25:54 Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 08:21:00AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:45:50AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > > > [...]
> > > >
> > > > > You can also help
On Thu 21 Feb 2019 at 16:32:18 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 08:21:00AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 21 February 2019 03:59:37 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:45:50AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > You can also help us by b
On Thursday, February 21, 2019 09:01:04 AM Greg Wooledge wrote:
> (2) Mutt has a feature that lets you send an EXACT copy of a message to
> a different address, preserving all of the headers and content
> verbatim. Mutt calls this "bouncing".
I'm just coming in from left field (without ha
On 2/21/19, 8:27 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
Never received bounce spam aka backscatter spam? Remember that time
(perhaps 1-2 years ago) where this very list was plagued by an
especially evil form of backscatter involving the useful idiot at
the other end of some smartphone?
No question, I've
On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:38:50AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > Sorry for being so clear, but I feel strongly about mail: it's the last
> > means of communication left where I have the choice of client software,
>
> Mostly true. It does suffer from a terrible design w.r.t encryption, tho.
>
> Sorry for being so clear, but I feel strongly about mail: it's the last
> means of communication left where I have the choice of client software,
Mostly true. It does suffer from a terrible design w.r.t encryption, tho.
The other existing mediums (with a choice of clients) I'm aware of are
XMP
On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 08:20:23AM -0800, James H. H. Lampert wrote:
> On 2/21/19, 12:38 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >You shouldn't /bounce/ spam anyway: where are you going to bounce it
> >to? To a most probably spoofed address, i.e. to a totally innocent
> >victim? Thus generating reflected spa
On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 08:21:00AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 21 February 2019 03:59:37 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:45:50AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > You can also help us by bouncing (as in mutt) spam to
> > > report-lists...@lists.debian
On 2/21/19, 12:38 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
You shouldn't /bounce/ spam anyway: where are you going to bounce it
to? To a most probably spoofed address, i.e. to a totally innocent
victim? Thus generating reflected spam, aka Joe Jobs?
That depends. Some spammers don't see themselves as spammer
Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 21 February 2019 09:01:04 Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> > > > Forwarding and bouncing are completely different operations. If
> > > > you aren't using mutt/neomutt and don't have a literal bounce
> > > > feature, then please just ignore this part.
> > >
> > > I am no
On 2019-02-21, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
>> (2) Mutt has a feature that lets you send an EXACT copy of a message
>> to a different address, preserving all of the headers and content
>> verbatim. Mutt calls this "bouncing".
>
> If this is such a good feature, why is mutt the only agent doing it?
>>
A
On Thursday 21 February 2019 09:01:04 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > Forwarding and bouncing are completely different operations. If
> > > you aren't using mutt/neomutt and don't have a literal bounce
> > > feature, then please just ignore this part.
> >
> > I am not using mutt. TDE version of kmail.
> > Forwarding and bouncing are completely different operations. If you
> > aren't using mutt/neomutt and don't have a literal bounce feature,
> > then please just ignore this part.
>
> I am not using mutt. TDE version of kmail. And I'd point out that the
> threat of a list unsubscribe is blamed
Hi.
On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 08:43:47AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 21 February 2019 08:32:18 Reco wrote:
>
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 08:21:00AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Thursday 21 February 2019 03:59:37 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Feb
On Thursday 21 February 2019 08:25:54 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 08:21:00AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:45:50AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > You can also help us by bouncing (as in mutt) spam to
> > > > report-lists...@lists.debia
On Thursday 21 February 2019 08:32:18 Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 08:21:00AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 21 February 2019 03:59:37 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:45:50AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > You can also
Hi.
On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 08:21:00AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 21 February 2019 03:59:37 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:45:50AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > You can also help us by bouncing (as in mutt) spam to
> > > report-lists...
On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 08:21:00AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:45:50AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> > > You can also help us by bouncing (as in mutt) spam to
> > > report-lists...@lists.debian.org
> This _might_ be a good idea, if that address took forwards.
Fo
On Thursday 21 February 2019 03:59:37 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:45:50AM +0300, Reco wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > You can also help us by bouncing (as in mutt) spam to
> > report-lists...@lists.debian.org
>
> Thanks
> -- t
This _might_ be a good idea, if that address took forwa
Hello,
On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 10:55:44AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 02:30:48AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 21 February 2019 01:14:03 w...@corrlinks.com wrote:
> > >
> >
> > Whats worse is that my isp is rightfully rejecting some of this bs as
> > spam, but I ge
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On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:45:50AM +0300, Reco wrote:
[...]
> You can also help us by bouncing (as in mutt) spam to
> report-lists...@lists.debian.org
Thanks
-- t
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On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 09:38:54AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > If you want to notify listmaster team about spam, you should bounce to [2].
>
> I'm using [3]. What do folks think is the Right Thing To Do?
[1] says:
You can also help us by bouncing (as in mutt) spam to
report-
On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 10:55:44AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 02:30:48AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 21 February 2019 01:14:03 w...@corrlinks.com wrote:
> >
> > > To reset your password, please click the link below.
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On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 02:30:48AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 21 February 2019 01:14:03 w...@corrlinks.com wrote:
>
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> >
> >
>
> What
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