Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 09:01:33PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > John Hasler wrote: > >Paul E Condon writes: > >>Just "Hi," has the benefit of fewer key strokes. (;-) And it's > >>suitable even for an email addressed to single potted plant. > >I wrote: > >>I've given up emailing them. They never a

Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

On Sat, 11 Jul 2015, Miles Fidelman wrote: Still, at $59/device - who's going to buy enough of the things to instrument all of their plants - maybe a garden plot, though. Reinhard Heydrich famously detested all plants: "The silly things will rat out their own families just for some extra wa

Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

John Hasler wrote: Paul E Condon writes: Just "Hi," has the benefit of fewer key strokes. (;-) And it's suitable even for an email addressed to single potted plant. I wrote: I've given up emailing them. They never answer. Arno Schuring writes: There's an app for that: http://www.parrot.com/u

Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

Paul E Condon writes: > Just "Hi," has the benefit of fewer key strokes. (;-) And it's > suitable even for an email addressed to single potted plant. I wrote: > I've given up emailing them. They never answer. Arno Schuring writes: > There's an app for that: > http://www.parrot.com/usa/products/fl

RE: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

I know I shouldn't, but... > From: jhas...@newsguy.com > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2015 15:58:03 -0500 > > Paul E Condon writes: >> Just "Hi," has the benefit of fewer key strokes. (;-) And it's >> suitable even for an email addressed to single potted plant. > > I've given up emailing them. They never ans

Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

Paul E Condon writes: > Just "Hi," has the benefit of fewer key strokes. (;-) And it's > suitable even for an email addressed to single potted plant. I've given up emailing them. They never answer. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-req

Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

On 20150710_1208-0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > John Hasler wrote: > >Lisi writes: > >>No, I disagree. Mesdames is now fully accepted, and I would say expected, > >>giving: > >>Dear Sirs/Mesdames or even dear Mesdames/Sirs. > >>Duck includes drake and mankind includes women. > >Ok. Let's settle on

Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

Joe Pfeiffer wrote: Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI writes: On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 11:15:17 -0400 The Wanderer wrote: If you substitute in "madams" for "mesdames" (since, AFAIK, "mesdames" is just the French equivalent of the same word), it makes more sense. remember that "madam" is usually apposite for

Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI writes: > On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 11:15:17 -0400 > The Wanderer wrote: > >> If you substitute in "madams" for "mesdames" (since, AFAIK, "mesdames" >> is just the French equivalent of the same word), it makes more sense. > > remember that "madam" is usually apposite for the manag

Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

John Hasler wrote: Lisi writes: No, I disagree. Mesdames is now fully accepted, and I would say expected, giving: Dear Sirs/Mesdames or even dear Mesdames/Sirs. Duck includes drake and mankind includes women. Ok. Let's settle on "Dear Peeps". Actually "Dear" when addressing strangers has al

Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

Brad Rogers wrote: On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 12:33:46 +0200 wrote: Hello to...@tuxteam.de, Got it. The "Sirs" is definitely unfortunate. Sirs is still the correct form if you are addressing unknown persons in a company, organisation, etc. I know some people object because "it excludes women" but

Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 11:15:17 -0400 The Wanderer wrote: > If you substitute in "madams" for "mesdames" (since, AFAIK, "mesdames" > is just the French equivalent of the same word), it makes more sense. remember that "madam" is usually apposite for the manageress of a brothel... Cheers, Ron. --

Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

Lisi writes: > No, I disagree. Mesdames is now fully accepted, and I would say expected, > giving: > Dear Sirs/Mesdames or even dear Mesdames/Sirs. > Duck includes drake and mankind includes women. Ok. Let's settle on "Dear Peeps". Actually "Dear" when addressing strangers has always struck

Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

On 07/10/2015 at 11:11 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 15:50:38 +0100 Lisi Reisz > wrote: > > Hello Lisi, > >> Dear Sirs/Mesdames or even dear Mesdames/Sirs. > > I've *never* received letters addressed in those forms where I work. > We get hundreds per day. If you substitute in "

Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 15:50:38 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: Hello Lisi, >Dear Sirs/Mesdames or even dear Mesdames/Sirs. I've *never* received letters addressed in those forms where I work. We get hundreds per day. TBH, Lisi, you're spending too much time throwing hissy fits on this, and other lists,

Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

On Friday 10 July 2015 15:37:12 Brad Rogers wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 12:33:46 +0200 > wrote: > > Hello to...@tuxteam.de, > > >Got it. The "Sirs" is definitely unfortunate. > > Sirs is still the correct form if you are addressing unknown persons in a > company, organisation, etc. I know some p

Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package & to be rude or not

"Susmita/Rajib Bandopadhyay" > originally wrote: I need this software desperately to be finally free from the strangle-hold of proprietary, closed-source software developers. But I am shocked to find this software being ported into stable packages, while it can d

Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 12:33:46 +0200 wrote: Hello to...@tuxteam.de, >Got it. The "Sirs" is definitely unfortunate. Sirs is still the correct form if you are addressing unknown persons in a company, organisation, etc. I know some people object because "it excludes women" but in this context, the

Re: to be rude or not (was: YAGF is a seriously screwed package)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 09:42:48AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 07/10/2015 at 08:52 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > From my perspective, jumping so harshly on a single use of a > superficially masculine-only term which was not even directed >

Re: to be rude or not (was: YAGF is a seriously screwed package)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 09:19:45AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jul 2015, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > >I don't really understand. Are you saying Lisi is a "militant"? > > Let's suppose that: [...] > Given all of that, what do you think

Re: to be rude or not (was: YAGF is a seriously screwed package)

On 07/10/2015 at 08:52 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 08:40:48AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > >> On Fri, 10 Jul 2015, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >>> Agreed. FWIW I do agree with you 100% -- I just wanted to raise >>> some compassio/understanding for the "perpetrators" (I'm

Re: to be rude or not (was: YAGF is a seriously screwed package)

On Fri, 10 Jul 2015, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: I don't really understand. Are you saying Lisi is a "militant"? Let's suppose that: 1) my pasting that label ("militant") on her was a gross error, totally undeserved. Let's further suppose that: 2) perhaps in a minor fit of pique I had become

Re: to be rude or not (was: YAGF is a seriously screwed package)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 08:40:48AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jul 2015, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > >Agreed. FWIW I do agree with you 100% -- I just wanted to raise > >some compassio/understanding for the "perpetrators" (I'm probably > >

Re: to be rude or not (was: YAGF is a seriously screwed package)

On Fri, 10 Jul 2015, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Agreed. FWIW I do agree with you 100% -- I just wanted to raise some compassio/understanding for the "perpetrators" (I'm probably one of them many times). Oh no Tomas, compassion and understanding go right out the window when a militant's vital s

Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

Okay, Sir. Thank you. Rajib On 10/07/2015, Boris Pek wrote: >>> Unfortunately such info is not enough to detect the reason of crash. >>> This problem needs more detailed investigation. >> >> Tell me what else you want me to send you, data, any other code-blocks, >> etc.? >> I will try to. But I

Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

On 10/07/2015, Boris Pek wrote: [snipped] > > Yes, I am the official maintainer of yagf package for Debian and Ubuntu and > I am in contact with upstream developer (Andrei Borovsky). But I failed to > see > how it is related to salvaging of the package. Absolutely everything, because users are fi

Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

>> Unfortunately such info is not enough to detect the reason of crash. >> This problem needs more detailed investigation. > > Tell me what else you want me to send you, data, any other code-blocks, etc.? > I will try to. But I have limitations. I am absolutely self-taught. I am going to upload

Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

On 10/07/2015, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [snip] > In my book, you just described "hero", i.e. doing something about it > and benefitting others in the process :-) [snip] Let go. Let's focus on the issue. Regards, Rajib -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subje

Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

On 10/07/2015, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: ... [snipped] ... >> I don't want to be a hero. > > But still you filed the bug :-) ... [snipped] Nothing to do with heroism, just self-interest. I use FOSS exclusively. Maybe, twice a year, FineReader Sprint with Wine, that I received with my Umax scanner.

Re: to be rude or not (was: YAGF is a seriously screwed package)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 12:17:43PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 10 July 2015 11:37:42 Bonno Bloksma wrote: > > Also remember what we consider to be polite is in some cultures to be > > considered as rude and vice versa. That's what I wanted t

Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 04:47:22PM +0530, Susmita/Rajib Bandopadhyay wrote: > On 10/07/2015, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > ... > [snipped] > ... > >> I don't want to be a hero. > > > > But still you filed the bug :-) > ... > [snipped] > > Nothing to do w

Re: to be rude or not (was: YAGF is a seriously screwed package)

On Friday 10 July 2015 11:37:42 Bonno Bloksma wrote: > Also remember what we consider to be polite is in some cultures to be > considered as rude and vice versa. Yes, I am very conscious of that. It is largely that to which I was objecting. Being rude to women is considered desirable and norma

to be rude or not (was: YAGF is a seriously screwed package)

Hi, >On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 09:20:09AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> On Friday 10 July 2015 06:33:44 Susmita/Rajib Bandopadhyay wrote: >> > Dear Sirs, >> >> You'll get further if you don't start your posting being rude to half of us. > > I was at first a bit shocked also: but on a second thought,

Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 02:57:07PM +0530, Susmita/Rajib Bandopadhyay wrote: > On 10 July 2015 at 12:11, wrote: [...] > > If you want to be the hero [...] > I don't want to be a hero. But still you filed the bug :-) - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE--

Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 10:04:06AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: [...] > No, it wasn't *meant* to be rude. He was just rude as a matter of course, > quite casually, without even noticing. Many men are casually rude to women. > That doesn't make it no

Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

On 10 July 2015 at 12:11, wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 11:03:44AM +0530, Susmita/Rajib Bandopadhyay wrote: > > Dear Sirs ... > [snipped] > ... > If you want to be the hero, try to file a bug against the package > yagf. I'm sure the helpful f

Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

On Friday 10 July 2015 09:36:53 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 09:20:09AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Friday 10 July 2015 06:33:44 Susmita/Rajib Bandopadhyay wrote: > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > You'll get further if you don't start your posting being rude to half of > > us. > > I

Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 09:20:09AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 10 July 2015 06:33:44 Susmita/Rajib Bandopadhyay wrote: > > Dear Sirs, > > You'll get further if you don't start your posting being rude to half of us. I was at first a bit shock

Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

On Friday 10 July 2015 06:33:44 Susmita/Rajib Bandopadhyay wrote: > Dear Sirs, You'll get further if you don't start your posting being rude to half of us. > I need this software desperately to be finally free from the > strangle-hold of proprietary, closed-source software developers. Isn't this

Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 11:03:44AM +0530, Susmita/Rajib Bandopadhyay wrote: > Dear Sirs, > > I need this software desperately to be finally free from the > strangle-hold of proprietary, closed-source software developers. You can help to maie it happe

YAGF is a seriously screwed package

Dear Sirs, I need this software desperately to be finally free from the strangle-hold of proprietary, closed-source software developers. But I am shocked to find this software being ported into stable packages, while it can do nothing. As soon as it is tried it shuts itself off. I hope the packa