Re: Xen vs. KVM on Debian squeeze

Hello, I'm using xen on my system too I have an CPU like yours. In the system are 8GB Ram There are three domU everyone with an own ip adress (bridging) I have one domU with 512mb the other ones are with 1024mb ram. the dom0 is running on wheezy. There are no problems at the moment. The domU is

Re: Xen vs. KVM on Debian squeeze

Am 09.12.2012 um 07:48 schrieb P. J. McDermott: I'd like to set up virtualization on a home server with a Debian GNU/Linux squeeze amd64 host and squeeze and wheezy amd64 guests. I'm trying to decide between Xen 4.0 (with paravirtualized guests and probably the xend/xm toolstack) and qemu-kvm

Re: Xen vs. KVM on Debian squeeze

Peter Viskup wrote: > Consider LXC [2] in case you have some concerns of CPU/memory overhead > and you plan to run only Linux virtual servers. LXC looks really nice but you need very up-to-date packages, and possibly may even need to consider compiling from source. Issues I've hit so far (none

Re: Xen vs. KVM on Debian squeeze

P. J. McDermott wrote: > I'd like to set up virtualization on a home server So now you have recommendations both ways :-) Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.

Re: Xen vs. KVM on Debian squeeze

On 12/09/2012 07:48 AM, P. J. McDermott wrote: Hi, I'd like to set up virtualization on a home server with a Debian GNU/Linux squeeze amd64 host and squeeze and wheezy amd64 guests. I'm trying to decide between Xen 4.0 (with paravirtualized guests and probably the xend/xm toolstack) and qemu-kv

Re: Xen vs. KVM on Debian squeeze

Greetings, On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Chris Davies wrote: > P. J. McDermott wrote: >> I'd like to set up virtualization on a home server with a Debian >> GNU/Linux squeeze amd64 host and squeeze and wheezy amd64 guests. > > I'd recommend KVM and libvirt/VMM. I'd go for Xen. Not a virtual

Re: Xen vs. KVM on Debian squeeze

P. J. McDermott wrote: > I'd like to set up virtualization on a home server with a Debian > GNU/Linux squeeze amd64 host and squeeze and wheezy amd64 guests. I'd recommend KVM and libvirt/VMM. > The server has two 3.0-GHz CPU cores (an AMD CPU with the AMD-V/SVM > virtualization extensions) and

Xen vs. KVM on Debian squeeze

Hi, I'd like to set up virtualization on a home server with a Debian GNU/Linux squeeze amd64 host and squeeze and wheezy amd64 guests. I'm trying to decide between Xen 4.0 (with paravirtualized guests and probably the xend/xm toolstack) and qemu-kvm 0.12 or 1.1 (with the libvirt tools). My exper

Re: Xen vs KVM

i am using proxmox KVM.. on 3 base servers for more then 2 years. i do migrate, backup and all the process intensive task and every thing. till today i havent found any issue related to stabitliy. once i remeber i havent started my virtual machines for 4 monts,and my base, i never found a reason to

Re: Xen vs KVM

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 2:59 AM, Tom H wrote: > Unless there's a fedora-devel thread where this was discussed, there's > probably no way to know why RHEL6 switched to kvm except to assume > that kvm's in-kernel and xen isn't. This has changed in the latest > kernels so xen support might very well

Re: Xen vs KVM

On Friday 30 March 2012 18:09:44 Tony van der Hoff wrote: > For heaven's sake, it is perfectly evident that this guy (Zhang Enming) > is setting up as a troll. Admittedly, he's doing it quite well, but > let's stop responding to his ranting, and he'll get bored. I came to that same conclusion, but

Re: Xen vs KVM

> Do you know when RHEL 7 might be released? If you had asked that a couple of months ago, I would have said late 2013 since, in the past, a new release came just before support ended on the version two versions prior to it.  In this case, RHEL 5, whose support ends in early 2014.  But Red Ha

Re: Xen vs KVM

y sufficient to further the discussion. Oracle VirtualBox and Virtual Iron and also Microsoft's Hyper-V is based on Xen code I think. This has no bearing on the relative performance merits of Xen vs. KVM. (FWIW, I think you're wrong re VirtualBox, but Oracle do develop a branded pr

Re: Xen vs KVM

On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 00:13:40 -0700, Hilco wrote in message : > RH employs some of the KVM devs. RH apparently has not contributed to > Xen for several years and has now decided to only support a single > code base: KVM. It does not appear to have anything to do with Xen or > its quality/performan

Re: Xen vs KVM

Am Donnerstag, 29. März 2012 schrieb francis picabia: > Xen requires a patched kernel. It is unstable. It crashed on > me randomly before I got as far as configuring any VM stuff. > The system which experienced this returned to a standard > Debian kernel and never had a problem again. Not any lo

Re: Xen vs KVM

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Proxmox VE seems to be it's own distribution and I don't understand which should be run first with Ganeti :). On 30.03.2012 15:42, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 02:36:32PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: >> I just got interested about vi

Re: Xen vs KVM

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 02:36:32PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > I just got interested about virtualization and noticed that this > thread is still going on. > > As far as I can see, most people are currently recommending Xen. The sample size of thread participants is too small to extrapolate

Re: Xen vs KVM

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 3:13 AM, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > On 29 March 2012 22:59, Tom H wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:32 PM, francis picabia wrote: >>> >>> Xen requires a patched kernel.  It is unstable.  It crashed on >>> me randomly before I got as far as configuring any VM stuff. >>> Th

Re: Xen vs KVM

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 5:54 AM, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 05:27:14PM +0800, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: >> >> Do you know when RHEL 7 might be released? > > Take a look at when RHEL 6 came out (very recently) and how long the gap > between RHEL releases is on average (lar

Re: Xen vs KVM

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I just got interested about virtualization and noticed that this thread is still going on. As far as I can see, most people are currently recommending Xen. Are there any GUIs or WebUIs for Xen or KVM and how do they work? - -- Mika Suomalainen

Re: Xen vs KVM

cussion. > Oracle VirtualBox and Virtual Iron and also Microsoft's Hyper-V is > based on Xen code I think. This has no bearing on the relative performance merits of Xen vs. KVM. (FWIW, I think you're wrong re VirtualBox, but Oracle do develop a branded product based on Xen called Oracl

Re: Xen vs KVM

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 05:27:14PM +0800, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: > Do you know when RHEL 7 might be released? Take a look at when RHEL 6 came out (very recently) and how long the gap between RHEL releases is on average (large) and extrapolate (not for years). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Xen vs KVM

On Vi, 30 mar 12, 17:24:55, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: [snipped 38 lines] > May I know what is Proxmox? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=proxmox Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic sig

Re: Xen vs KVM

On 30/03/2012 13:59, Tom H wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:32 PM, francis picabia wrote: Xen requires a patched kernel. It is unstable. It crashed on me randomly before I got as far as configuring any VM stuff. The system which experienced this returned to a standard Debian kernel and never

Re: Xen vs KVM

On 30/03/2012 13:34, wlan wrote: On my job we using KVM+Proxmox, This is pretty. 2012/3/30 Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) > On 28/03/2012 16:36, Jon Dowland wrote: On 28/03/12 01:32, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: I am also in favor of

Re: Xen vs KVM

On 30/03/2012 00:32, francis picabia wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: On 28 March 2012 06:43, Aaron Toponce wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 09:35:25AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: For me, it became yesterday's technology when it became apparent that the hypervisor m

Re: Xen vs KVM

On 29/03/2012 00:44, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: On 28 March 2012 06:43, Aaron Toponce wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 09:35:25AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: For me, it became yesterday's technology when it became apparent that the hypervisor model (putting an entirely new kernel between Linux and the

Re: Xen vs KVM

On 29 March 2012 22:59, Tom H wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:32 PM, francis picabia wrote: >> >> Xen requires a patched kernel.  It is unstable.  It crashed on >> me randomly before I got as far as configuring any VM stuff. >> The system which experienced this returned to a standard >> Debia

Re: Xen vs KVM

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:32 PM, francis picabia wrote: > > Xen requires a patched kernel.  It is unstable.  It crashed on > me randomly before I got as far as configuring any VM stuff. > The system which experienced this returned to a standard > Debian kernel and never had a problem again. > > K

Re: Xen vs KVM

On my job we using KVM+Proxmox, This is pretty. 2012/3/30 Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) > On 28/03/2012 16:36, Jon Dowland wrote: > >> On 28/03/12 01:32, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: >> >>> I am also in favor of Xen. >>> >> >> You have just said, not two messages ago, that you've never even tr

Re: Xen vs KVM

On 28/03/2012 16:36, Jon Dowland wrote: On 28/03/12 01:32, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: I am also in favor of Xen. You have just said, not two messages ago, that you've never even tried KVM. I always prefer to base my opinions on evidence, personally. Yes, I have never tried Linux

Re: Xen vs KVM

On 28/03/2012 16:35, Jon Dowland wrote: On 27/03/12 14:32, Aaron Toponce wrote: IMO, Xen isn't "yesterday's virtualization technology". It's very current, stable, flexible, supported and very much "today's virtualization technology". For me, it became yesterday's technology when it became appa

Re: Xen vs KVM

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > On 28 March 2012 06:43, Aaron Toponce wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 09:35:25AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: >>> For me, it became yesterday's technology when it became apparent that >>> the hypervisor model (putting an entirely new kernel

Re: Xen vs KVM

On 28 March 2012 06:43, Aaron Toponce wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 09:35:25AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: >> For me, it became yesterday's technology when it became apparent that >> the hypervisor model (putting an entirely new kernel between Linux and >> the hardware) created all sorts of perfo

Re: Xen vs KVM

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 09:35:25AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > For me, it became yesterday's technology when it became apparent that > the hypervisor model (putting an entirely new kernel between Linux and > the hardware) created all sorts of performance problems, and neglected > the decades of wor

Re: Xen vs KVM

On 28/03/12 01:32, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: I am also in favor of Xen. You have just said, not two messages ago, that you've never even tried KVM. I always prefer to base my opinions on evidence, personally. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: Xen vs KVM

On 27/03/12 14:32, Aaron Toponce wrote: IMO, Xen isn't "yesterday's virtualization technology". It's very current, stable, flexible, supported and very much "today's virtualization technology". For me, it became yesterday's technology when it became apparent that the hypervisor model (putting a

Re: Xen vs KVM

supported. The specific needs of the usecase should lead you to the choice to be made! Best regards! > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 01:55:31 +0800 > From: ubuntu.fan.2...@gmail.com > To: aaron.topo...@gmail.com; debian-user@lists.debian.org; singapore.mr.teo.en.m...@gmail.com > S

RE: Xen vs KVM

1:55:31 +0800 > From: ubuntu.fan.2...@gmail.com > To: aaron.topo...@gmail.com; debian-user@lists.debian.org; > singapore.mr.teo.en.m...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: Xen vs KVM > > On 27/03/2012 21:32, Aaron Toponce wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 09:51:28AM +0100, Jon Dowlan

Re: Xen vs KVM

On 27/03/2012 21:32, Aaron Toponce wrote: On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 09:51:28AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 01:04:57PM +0800, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: When will Debian 7.0 be released? Debian with Linux Kernel 3.x release seems very slow when all the other Linux dist

Xen vs KVM (was: Re: When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?)

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 09:51:28AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 01:04:57PM +0800, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: > > When will Debian 7.0 be released? Debian with Linux Kernel 3.x > > release seems very slow when all the other Linux distros already > > have the latest Linu