Re: XFree vs. xorg

2004-08-09 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello! On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 05:41:39PM +0200, Nicolaus Kedegren wrote: > Why in heavens name did Xfree86 change their license? Was it the > previous license too restrictive? Sponsors needed/wanted the ability to > incorporate proprietary code? > Waste of BW probably, but does anybody know? In

Re: XFree vs. xorg

2004-08-09 Thread Nicolaus Kedegren
* Anders Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-08-09 12:20] wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Brian Nelson wrote: > | On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 10:21:39AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > |>On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 06:58:57PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: > |> > |>>The d-i team is h

Re: XFree vs. xorg

2004-08-09 Thread Anders Karlsson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brian Nelson wrote: | On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 10:21:39AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: |>On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 06:58:57PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: |> |>>The d-i team is having nightmares right now because packages they depend |>>on keep changing. |> |

Re: XFree vs. xorg

2004-08-09 Thread Brian Nelson
On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 10:21:39AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 06:58:57PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: > > > The d-i team is having nightmares right now because packages they depend > > on keep changing. > > What ever happened to the idea of a "freeze"? I seem to recall

Re: XFree vs. xorg

2004-08-08 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 06:58:57PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: > The d-i team is having nightmares right now because packages they depend > on keep changing. What ever happened to the idea of a "freeze"? -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabootu's Minister of Proofreading http:

Re: XFree vs. xorg

2004-08-08 Thread John Summerfield
Chris Metzler wrote: On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 05:02:09 +0800 John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Chris Metzler wrote: On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 21:04:31 +0800 John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How do you justify that pov? At present, we have more platforms than ever before, m

Re: XFree vs. xorg

2004-08-08 Thread Brian Nelson
On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 09:04:31PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: > Brian Nelson wrote: > > >On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 09:20:28AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: > > > > > >>Other vendors switched to X.org at the time of the licence change. > >>Presumably they're supporting newer hardware now than

Re: XFree vs. xorg

2004-08-07 Thread Chris Metzler
On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 05:02:09 +0800 John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Chris Metzler wrote: >>On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 21:04:31 +0800 >>John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>How do you justify that pov? At present, we have more platforms than >>>ever before, more packages than ev

Re: XFree vs. xorg

2004-08-07 Thread John Summerfield
Chris Metzler wrote: On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 21:04:31 +0800 John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Brian Nelson wrote: Mark my words, Sarge+1 will not take 3 or 4 years to release. 1 to 1.5 years is my estimate. 2 years, tops. How do you justify that pov? At present, we have more

Re: XFree vs. xorg

2004-08-07 Thread Chris Metzler
On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 21:04:31 +0800 John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brian Nelson wrote: >> >> Mark my words, Sarge+1 will not take 3 or 4 years to release. 1 to 1.5 >> years is my estimate. 2 years, tops. > > > How do you justify that pov? At present, we have more platforms than > e

Re: XFree vs. xorg

2004-08-07 Thread John Summerfield
Brian Nelson wrote: On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 09:20:28AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: Other vendors switched to X.org at the time of the licence change. Presumably they're supporting newer hardware now than Debian will with Sarge when it's released, and Sarge++ is probably three or four years

Re: XFree vs. xorg

2004-08-06 Thread Brian Nelson
On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 09:20:28AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: > > Other vendors switched to X.org at the time of the licence change. > Presumably they're supporting newer hardware now than Debian will with > Sarge when it's released, and Sarge++ is probably three or four years away. Mark my

Re: XFree vs. xorg

2004-08-06 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 09:20:28AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: > Other vendors switched to X.org at the time of the licence change. > Presumably they're supporting newer hardware now than Debian will with > Sarge when it's released, and Sarge++ is probably three or four years away. Actually,

Re: XFree vs. xorg

2004-08-06 Thread John Summerfield
Florian Ernst wrote: Hello! On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 11:12:50AM -0500, Nathan Kroll wrote: I have recently become aware of the fact that Debian is still using XFree86 4.3 on all of its releases and seems to have no plans on converting to xorg. Is this true? Is there development underway for make

Re: XFree vs. xorg

2004-08-06 Thread Mike
Nathan Kroll wrote: I have recently become aware of the fact that Debian is still using XFree86 4.3 on all of its releases and seems to have no plans on converting to xorg. Is this true? Is there development underway for make xorg the new default x server? I'm just wondering because it seems odd t

Re: XFree vs. xorg

2004-08-06 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello! On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 11:12:50AM -0500, Nathan Kroll wrote: > I have recently become aware of the fact that Debian is still using > XFree86 4.3 on all of its releases and seems to have no plans on > converting to xorg. Is this true? Is there development underway for > make xorg the new d

Re: XFree vs. xorg

2004-08-06 Thread matt zagrabelny
On Fri, 2004-08-06 at 11:12, Nathan Kroll wrote: > I have recently become aware of the fact that Debian is still using > XFree86 4.3 on all of its releases and seems to have no plans on > converting to xorg. Is this true? Is there development underway for > make xorg the new default x server? > >

XFree vs. xorg

2004-08-06 Thread Nathan Kroll
I have recently become aware of the fact that Debian is still using XFree86 4.3 on all of its releases and seems to have no plans on converting to xorg. Is this true? Is there development underway for make xorg the new default x server? I'm just wondering because it seems odd to me that debian is