Re: x-window-manager alternative missing

2021-07-02 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-07-02 at 12:01, Siard wrote: > The Wanderer: > >> What package, or packages, set(s) up the x-window-manager alternative >> and define(s) symlinks for it? > > To set the default x-window-manager, you can use: > ># update-alternatives --config x-windo

Re: x-window-manager alternative missing

2021-07-02 Thread Siard
The Wanderer: > What package, or packages, set(s) up the x-window-manager alternative > and define(s) symlinks for it? To set the default x-window-manager, you can use: # update-alternatives --config x-window-manager To only see the available (i.e. installed) x-window-managers: $

Re: x-window-manager alternative missing

2021-07-02 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-07-02 at 11:39, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jul 02, 2021 at 11:14:22AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > >> What package, or packages, set(s) up the x-window-manager >> alternative and define(s) symlinks for it? > > I take it from the content that I snipped t

Re: x-window-manager alternative missing

2021-07-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jul 02, 2021 at 11:14:22AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > What package, or packages, set(s) up the x-window-manager alternative > and define(s) symlinks for it? I take it from the content that I snipped that you're looking for a list of window managers, and not a technical exp

Re: x-window-manager alternative missing

2021-07-02 Thread David Wright
On Fri 02 Jul 2021 at 11:14:22 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote: > What package, or packages, set(s) up the x-window-manager alternative > and define(s) symlinks for it? > > I'm building a new computer, and setting up my (Debian-based) preferred > configuration on it, and I

x-window-manager alternative missing

2021-07-02 Thread The Wanderer
What package, or packages, set(s) up the x-window-manager alternative and define(s) symlinks for it? I'm building a new computer, and setting up my (Debian-based) preferred configuration on it, and I've just discovered that there is no x-window-manager alternative defined; as a resul

x-window-manager alternative missing

2021-07-02 Thread The Wanderer
What package, or packages, set(s) up the x-window-manager alternative and define(s) symlinks for it? I'm building a new computer, and setting up my (Debian-based) preferred configuration on it, and I've just discovered that there is no x-window-manager alternative defined; as a resul

Re: sawfish makes itself x-window-manager

2002-12-06 Thread Erik Steffl
Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 10:23:04PM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote: Colin Watson wrote: dpkg is one of those packages that has a lot of bugs but by and large works pretty well. Looking purely at the number of bugs and ignoring the fact that it's mostly very solid, tested code is n

Re: sawfish makes itself x-window-manager

2002-12-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 10:23:04PM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > >dpkg is one of those packages that has a lot of bugs but by and large > >works pretty well. Looking purely at the number of bugs and ignoring the > >fact that it's mostly very solid, tested code is not really rati

Re: sawfish makes itself x-window-manager

2002-12-04 Thread Erik Steffl
Colin Watson wrote: On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 08:26:28AM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote: anyway, I guess I'll just be careful restarting WM and hope it'll get fixed eventually... considering the number of old bugs (few years old) it doesn't seem to make any sense to file bugs... are they re-impplementi

Re: sawfish makes itself x-window-manager

2002-12-02 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 08:26:28AM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote: > anyway, I guess I'll just be careful restarting WM and hope it'll get > fixed eventually... considering the number of old bugs (few years old) > it doesn't seem to make any sense to file bugs... are they > re-impplementing most/all of

Re: sawfish makes itself x-window-manager

2002-12-02 Thread Erik Steffl
ck > > before since I don't know it's goingto happen, and even if I knew > > there's nothing really to check). > > > > did anybody else noticed the same problem? > > Yes. Every time the X packages are updated in Sid, x-window-manager gets > set to f

Re: sawfish makes itself x-window-manager

2002-12-01 Thread Craig Dickson
ingto happen, and even if I knew > there's nothing really to check). > > did anybody else noticed the same problem? Yes. Every time the X packages are updated in Sid, x-window-manager gets set to fluxbox (which is installed, but not what I want the default to be), and x-terminal

Re: sawfish makes itself x-window-manager

2002-12-01 Thread Erik Steffl
7;s a "feature, can it be disabled? Yes, if set to automatic, update-alternatives will set alternative with the highest priority. If you run "update-alternative --config x-window-manager" and select your preferred window manager, update-alternatives will go into manual mode and will

Re: sawfish makes itself x-window-manager

2002-11-29 Thread Jerome Acks Jr
27;s a "feature, can it be > disabled? Yes, if set to automatic, update-alternatives will set alternative with the highest priority. If you run "update-alternative --config x-window-manager" and select your preferred window manager, update-alternatives will go into manual mod

sawfish makes itself x-window-manager

2002-11-28 Thread Erik Steffl
ot that hard to re-run update-alternatives and reset x-window-manager to whatever I like it also causes more serious error: when I restarted fvwm it did not restart but instead X windows was restarted. All unsaved data gone:-) [btw I was lucky this time, nothing lost, leisure suite larry

Re: X - window manager - desktop

2002-11-08 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 01:01:46PM -0500, Bruce Park wrote: > Paul, I too find having a desktop unnecessary. I do prefer using the > command line most of the time because it's quicker. By the time I reach for > my mouse, I've already wasted a good second when I could have type 5 or > more charac

Re: X - window manager - desktop

2002-11-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Friday 08 November 2002 19:08, David Z Maze wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 01:01:46PM -0500, Bruce Park wrote: > >> Now for my next question, do desktops such as gnome and kde require a > >> specific version of window manager? > > > > Not that I kno

Re: X - window manager - desktop

2002-11-08 Thread David Z Maze
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 01:01:46PM -0500, Bruce Park wrote: >> Now for my next question, do desktops such as gnome and kde require a >> specific version of window manager? > > Not that I know of. I've heard rumors that KDE only really works well with kw

Re: X - window manager - desktop

2002-11-08 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 01:01:46PM -0500, Bruce Park wrote: > So window manager is optional but not really necessary? Optional but rather necissary. > Now for my next question, do desktops such as gnome and kde require a > specific version of window manager? Not that I know of. -- .''`.

Re: X - window manager - desktop

2002-11-08 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
-- Bruce Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Friday, 08 November 2002, 01:01 PM -0500): > >From: Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: X - window manager - desktop > >Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 23:06:00 -0800 > > > >On F

Re: X - window manager - desktop

2002-11-08 Thread Bruce Park
From: Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: X - window manager - desktop Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 23:06:00 -0800 On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 01:35:33AM -0500, Bruce Park wrote: > the X? What exactly is a window manager? twm, enlightment, sawfish ... I The windo

Re: X - window manager - desktop

2002-11-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 01:35:33AM -0500, Bruce Park wrote: > the X? What exactly is a window manager? twm, enlightment, sawfish ... I The window manager handles things like window title bars, resizing, and other basic window elements. You can run X without a window manager, though you won't be

X - window manager - desktop

2002-11-07 Thread Bruce Park
Hello all, I have a question regarding how linux sets up a GUI interface. As far as I can understand this, the first thing it needs to do is run the X server. I'm going to guess here and I will say that a window manager runs on top of the X? What exactly is a window manager? twm, enlightment, s

Re: x-session-manager overrides x-window-manager

2002-09-02 Thread matthew arnison
Anyway, a slight correction. I used the filename: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/51local_force-x-window-manager and it contains: REALSTARTUP=x-window-manager (not REALSETUP as below). Time will tell whether it will withstand upgrades. I think it should be fine. *.d folders are great. Cheers, Matthew. H

Re: X, Window manager, and startup question

2002-06-25 Thread Ian D. Stewart
On Tuesday 25 June 2002 10:41, Dave Whiteley wrote: > Help please, > > I am using xdm and icewm, (but I suspect that my problem relates to > other window managers as well). I start up several applications at > login, using .xsession but these all start up in the first virtual > screen. Is there any

RE: X, Window manager, and startup question

2002-06-25 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 25-Jun-2002 Dave Whiteley wrote: > Help please, > > I am using xdm and icewm, (but I suspect that my problem relates to > other window managers as well). I start up several applications at > login, using .xsession but these all start up in the first virtual > screen. Is there any way in which

X, Window manager, and startup question

2002-06-25 Thread Dave Whiteley
Help please, I am using xdm and icewm, (but I suspect that my problem relates to other window managers as well). I start up several applications at login, using .xsession but these all start up in the first virtual screen. Is there any way in which I can start them in other screens. My .xsession

Re: X-window-manager problem

2001-10-21 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 11:02:24AM +0200, S?bastien Valsemey wrote: > I'd like to have help on an error message I obtain when launching my > X-Session. Please read the archives, as this has been discussed a *lot* recently. Either upgrade to XFree86 4.1.0-8, or remove the double quotes around $REAL

X-window-manager problem

2001-10-21 Thread Sébastien Valsemey
this line in ~/.xsession-errors (no matter which user it is): /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession: /usr/bin/ssh-agent x-window-manager: No such file or directory I'd like to know why. Best regards, Sébastien Valsemey.

Re: update-alternatives --config x-window-manager

2001-09-20 Thread D. Hoyem
t; this file but was unable to locate it. > > Anyone have this happen and how do I fix it. > > Appreciate the help. > > Don > > > > __________ > are you running gnome or simply a window manager by > itse

Re: update-alternatives --config x-window-manager

2001-09-20 Thread Walter Tautz
On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, D. Hoyem wrote: > Hi all > I'm running a PII 350 with Woody and use Window > Maker. After the Woody install it had a different > window manager installed i.e.Blackbox. I did a > update-alternatives --config x-window-manager and > chose Window Maker

update-alternatives --config x-window-manager

2001-09-20 Thread D. Hoyem
Hi all I'm running a PII 350 with Woody and use Window Maker. After the Woody install it had a different window manager installed i.e.Blackbox. I did a update-alternatives --config x-window-manager and chose Window Maker. Now what will happen, when I have to shutdown and reboot, Window

Re: X Window Manager Alternatives

2001-07-03 Thread D-Man
On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 09:56:04AM +1000, Bek Oberin wrote: | | I read in the documentation that the deb for X 4.0.3 now uses | /etc/alternatives to find a window manager to use. I like | icewm-gnome so I have: Dunno about that. | But when I bring up X, unless I start icewm manually, I end up |

X Window Manager Alternatives

2001-07-03 Thread Bek Oberin
I read in the documentation that the deb for X 4.0.3 now uses /etc/alternatives to find a window manager to use. I like icewm-gnome so I have: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc/alternatives# ls -l x-window-manager lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 26 Jan 18 03:39 x-window-manager -> /usr/X11R6/

Re: X-WINDOW-MANAGER

2001-03-04 Thread b3
ore information than I > expected and was able to change from ICEWM-GNOME to > Black Box... everything was good. Well the kid came > out in me and was wondering what the other window > managers looked like, ie AfterStep, WMmaker. etc so I > exited as user and logged in as root, d

X-WINDOW-MANAGER

2001-03-01 Thread D. Hoyem
, WMmaker. etc so I exited as user and logged in as root, did a update-alternatives --config x-window-manager and selected WMmanager. Typed startx and the WMmanger opened up, but my system was froze, ctrl-alt(F1, F2, F3), alt (F1, F2, F3 etc), ctrl alt Backspace, ctrl alt (+) or (-), or ctrl alt del

Re: how NOT to start x-session but x-window-manager instead

2001-01-19 Thread Erik Steffl
ers etc. and I would like to > learn > # how to work within this system, I now how to use update-alternatives > to > # use one or another x-session-manager or x-window-manager but how to > # choose x-window-manager over x-session-manager during X startup - > that's > # a que

Re: how NOT to start x-session but x-window-manager instead

2001-01-19 Thread David B . Harris
stem, I now how to use update-alternatives to # use one or another x-session-manager or x-window-manager but how to # choose x-window-manager over x-session-manager during X startup - that's # a question. brief poking around shows no obvious way to do it other then # remove all the x-session-mana

Re: how NOT to start x-session but x-window-manager instead

2001-01-19 Thread Erik Steffl
"David B. Harris" wrote: > > To quote Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > # I would like to start up x-window-manager instead. How to properly > # configure this in debian? remove all alternatives for > # x-session-manager? > > If you're using 's

Re: how NOT to start x-session but x-window-manager instead

2001-01-19 Thread David B . Harris
To quote Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, # I would like to start up x-window-manager instead. How to properly # configure this in debian? remove all alternatives for # x-session-manager? If you're using 'startx', you can edit your ~/.xinitrc , and make it executable(if it

how NOT to start x-session but x-window-manager instead

2001-01-19 Thread Erik Steffl
manager ]; then realstartup=x-session-manager elif [ -x /usr/bin/x-window-manager ]; then realstartup=x-window-manager elif [ -x /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator ]; then realstartup=x-terminal-emulator fi fi I would like to start up x-window-manager instead. How to properly configure

Re: X Window Manager

2001-01-11 Thread Matthew Sackman
I've just install (yesterday) uwm and found that it created a softlink from /usr/doc/uwm to /usr/share/doc/udm, so the documentation is easily findable on my system. Anyway, I'm really glad I read this list otherwise I'd have never come across uwm. It really is excellant. If you're bored by the si

Re: X Window Manager

2001-01-10 Thread Kevin C. Smith
I would also suggest looking at icewm. It's easy on the resources and is ready to use. It also does not require a mouse, which is nice. I've been using icewm for a year and love it. I've tried others but always come back to icewm. Kevin

Re: X Window Manager

2001-01-10 Thread Lance Simmons
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 09:28:44PM -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote: > The only thing I > miss (and it may be strictly my ignorance) are icons for certain apps. But > it's s light and fast! Just edit your menu hook files (defaults are in /etc/X11/ude/; you can edit those or put dotfiles in your

Re: X Window Manager

2001-01-10 Thread Lance Simmons
There's good documentation for uwm in /usr/doc/ude/. It explains exactly how to use and modify uwm. The documentation is in the ude directory because uwm ("Unix Window Manager") is part of the planned ude ("Unix Desktop Environment")--so far as I know, it's the only part of ude that's currently us

Re: X Window Manager

2001-01-10 Thread Carl Fink
People recommended uwm, and it sounded interesting. If anyone else is looking to try it, keep in mind that there's no man page, no documention gets installed in /usr/doc, and no documentation of the program at its home page, meaning you'll have to read the source or something to figure out how it

Re: X Window Manager

2001-01-10 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 12:36:52PM -0600, Lance Simmons wrote: > On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 12:51:32PM -0500, cdryburgh asked about window > managers. Here's my suggestion: > > No question in my mind: uwm. It has the best interface I've ever used. > You can perform any operation on any window by clic

Re: X Window Manager

2001-01-09 Thread David B . Harris
To quote kmself@ix.netcom.com, # - twm is a pretty minimal window manager. # - blackbox and sawfish are both pretty slim. I love Sawfish, but I don't think it's appropriate in this case. Almost all of Sawfish is written in the Rep dialect of Lisp, and is interpreted at runtime. That's a CPU-de

Re: X Window Manager

2001-01-09 Thread kmself
on Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 12:51:32PM -0500, cdryburgh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Have got an old 386 with Debian Linux on it. Have loaded X and am > looking for a window manager for it. There are a lot of them. I was > hopping that if I give some specs that someone could narrow down the > list. >

RE: X Window Manager

2001-01-09 Thread Daniel Oxenhandler
Good luck, Daniel -Original Message- From: cdryburgh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 9:52 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: X Window Manager Have got an old 386 with Debian Linux on it. Have loaded X and am looking for a window manager for it. There are

Re: X Window Manager

2001-01-09 Thread Erdmut Pfeifer
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 12:51:32PM -0500, cdryburgh wrote: > Have got an old 386 with Debian Linux on it. Have loaded X and am > looking for a window manager for it. There are a lot of them. I was > hopping that if I give some specs that someone could narrow down the > list. > > 1. Have limited me

Re: X Window Manager

2001-01-09 Thread Lance Simmons
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 12:51:32PM -0500, cdryburgh asked about window managers. Here's my suggestion: No question in my mind: uwm. It has the best interface I've ever used. You can perform any operation on any window by clicking on it _anywhere_. You can also use keystrokes to do pretty much anyt

Re: X Window Manager

2001-01-09 Thread David B . Harris
To quote cdryburgh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, # The ICEWM looks like a possibility to me. Any other opinions. That would have been my suggestion. Generally, I've found you get most bang for the resources with IceWM. Blackbox is supposed to be extremely lightweight though, so you might want to check it o

Re: X Window Manager

2001-01-09 Thread Christopher W. Aiken
On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, cdryburgh wrote: -|Have got an old 386 with Debian Linux on it. Have loaded X and am -|looking for a window manager for it. There are a lot of them. I was -|hopping that if I give some specs that someone could narrow down the -|list. -| -|1. Have limited memory resources so mus

Re: X Window Manager

2001-01-09 Thread Jon Pennington
cdryburgh wrote: > > 1. Have limited memory resources so must not use much. > 2. Have small monitor 14". Must allow for maximum screen viewing. > 3. I am a programmer so will probably be doing GUI's and CORBA related > stuff at some point. Sounds like a perfect candidate for Blackbox 0.61.x, pack

X Window Manager

2001-01-09 Thread cdryburgh
Have got an old 386 with Debian Linux on it. Have loaded X and am looking for a window manager for it. There are a lot of them. I was hopping that if I give some specs that someone could narrow down the list. 1. Have limited memory resources so must not use much. 2. Have small monitor 14". Must al

Re: x-window-manager

1999-12-27 Thread Tommi Virtanen
On Sun, Dec 26, 1999 at 08:55:30PM +0100, Francesco Tapparo wrote: > I maintain SCWM, a guile-powered window manager. An user asked me to add a > Provides: x-window-manager, but I cannot find this virtual package in the > virtual package list, neither in the policy (I have debian-policy

x-window-manager

1999-12-26 Thread Francesco Tapparo
I maintain SCWM, a guile-powered window manager. An user asked me to add a Provides: x-window-manager, but I cannot find this virtual package in the virtual package list, neither in the policy (I have debian-policy 3.1.1.1). Is this an obsoleted virtual-package, or a new one (not integrated in

fvwm does not provide x-window-manager?

1999-11-30 Thread Shaul Karl
I wonder why fvwm does not provides x-window-manager. The following is copy and paste from deslect: dselect - recursive package listing mark:+/=/- verbose:v help:? EIOM Pri Section Package Description **_ Opt x11 twm Tab window manager

Re: X window manager oddities

1997-01-21 Thread Philippe Troin
On Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:34:11 PST Steve ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > This happened after I cat'ed usr/lib/X11/app-defaults/XTerm-color onto my > ~/.Xdefaults file, in an effort to get Xterm to work in colour (following > some advice in the list archives). My .Xdefaults file was nonexistent before

Re: X window manager oddities

1997-01-21 Thread Steve
On Mon, 20 Jan 1997, I wrote: > I was using fvwm2 as my window manager, but now X is dumping me into twm. I figured out what the problem was. It had nothing to do with my ~/.Xdefaults. Earlier that day I had replaced the /bin/sh symlink to bash with a symlink to ash, hoping it would use less memor

X window manager oddities

1997-01-21 Thread Steve
I was using fvwm2 as my window manager, but now X is dumping me into twm. This happened after I cat'ed usr/lib/X11/app-defaults/XTerm-color onto my ~/.Xdefaults file, in an effort to get Xterm to work in colour (following some advice in the list archives). My .Xdefaults file was nonexistent before