Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2005-01-04 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 04 January 2005 02:54 pm, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > I know nothing about digital cameras. My daughter suddenly shows up > with one and I google for the brand (I forget it now) and the site > shows only XP info, I tell her: no support for your camera. Might try adding "linux" to any

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2005-01-04 Thread Erik Steffl
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: ... I know nothing about digital cameras. My daughter suddenly shows up with one and I google for the brand (I forget it now) and the site shows only XP info, I tell her: no support for your camera. Was I wrong? You mean I plug it in anyway and it might work? it's fairly

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2005-01-04 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-04 at 16:54 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-01-04 at 13:50 -0800, Chuk Goodin wrote: > > > >>On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 19:39:02 -0500, Roberto Sanchez > >> > >> > >>>Downloading pictures from a digital camera is much easier than in > >>>Windows. To s

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2005-01-04 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Ron Johnson wrote: On Tue, 2005-01-04 at 13:50 -0800, Chuk Goodin wrote: On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 19:39:02 -0500, Roberto Sanchez Downloading pictures from a digital camera is much easier than in Windows. To start with, there is no need to install extra software. You simply plug in your camera and i

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2005-01-04 Thread Peter Nuttall
On Tuesday 04 Jan 2005 22:27, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Tue, 2005-01-04 at 13:50 -0800, Chuk Goodin wrote: > > On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 19:39:02 -0500, Roberto Sanchez > > > > > Downloading pictures from a digital camera is much easier than in > > > Windows. To start with, there is no need to install ext

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2005-01-04 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-01-04 at 13:50 -0800, Chuk Goodin wrote: > On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 19:39:02 -0500, Roberto Sanchez > > > Downloading pictures from a digital camera is much easier than in > > Windows. To start with, there is no need to install extra software. > > You simply plug in your camera and if it

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2005-01-04 Thread Chuk Goodin
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 19:39:02 -0500, Roberto Sanchez > Downloading pictures from a digital camera is much easier than in > Windows. To start with, there is no need to install extra software. > You simply plug in your camera and if it is recognized (by a program > like gPhoto), it will Just Work(T

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-27 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Alex Malinovich wrote: On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 11:32 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: Well, Linux is certainly less user friendly (especially if you have difficulty with english as localization is quite poor) Although I cannot comment on the localization issue let's please not

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-27 Thread Robert Parker
On Monday 27 December 2004 06:32, Steve Lamb wrote: > Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: > > Well, Linux is certainly less user friendly (especially if you have > > difficulty with english as localization is quite poor) > > Although I cannot comment on the localization issue let's please not > repeat th

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: Well, Linux is certainly less user friendly (especially if you have difficulty with english as localization is quite poor) but if you take Not true. Linux is *quite* user friendly. It just happens to be very picky about who its friends are :-) -Roberto signature.asc Des

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Olav
Op zo, 26-12-2004 te 20:33 +, schreef Jean-Michel Hiver: > With debian, installing programs is a breeze though (using command > line tools): > > To find a program: > > apt-cache search > > To install it: > > apt-get install > > To upgrade your system: > > apt-get update >

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 20:33 +, Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: --snip-- > Well, Linux is certainly less user friendly (especially if you have > difficulty with english as localization is quite poor) but if you take --snip-- I'm actually really surprised that you find the localization poor. In my ex

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 11:32 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: > > Well, Linux is certainly less user friendly (especially if you have > > difficulty with english as localization is quite poor) > > Although I cannot comment on the localization issue let's please not > repea

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Steve Lamb
Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: Well, Linux is certainly less user friendly (especially if you have difficulty with english as localization is quite poor) Although I cannot comment on the localization issue let's please not repeat this particular piece of FUD. Studies of children who have never use

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Jean-Michel Hiver
I like the 'back-end' stability that Linux has, but question whether that stability will be negated by a more difficult user interface, or lack thereof. I don't think it's more difficult, but it is *different*. I would say that the main difference is that you need to take your time to read the

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2004-12-25 at 20:12 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > English isn't read in random order, so please don't quote that way. > http://ursine.dyndns.org/Top_Posting > > On Saturday 25 December 2004 7:20 pm, Ed Sutherland wrote: > > > Actually, I rarely "drive to the store" for software, but order

USE EasyTag for Mass Tagging of MP3 (was Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?)

2004-12-26 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2004-12-25 at 22:26 -0500, Brian Pack wrote: > So far I have found one, *one* multimedia function that I give more > points to windows. Searching out and updating ID3 tags for my mp3 > files. > > With Musicmatch I can right click on a song, select super tagging/lookup > tags, and it will

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2004-12-25 at 19:11 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Saturday 25 December 2004 6:23 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > There *are* ways to do GUI install, but not all s/w can be installed > > point-and-click, and some s/w needs the command line to start, and > > then does point-and-click for the

Mass-tagging MP3 files (was: Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?)

2004-12-25 Thread Rogério Brito
On Dec 25 2004, Brian Pack wrote: > With Musicmatch I can right click on a song, select super tagging/lookup > tags, and it will go onto the net and find the correct information for > the song. While not as advanced as what you described, when I download some MP3 file from the Internet and it is n

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-25 Thread Paul Johnson
English isn't read in random order, so please don't quote that way. http://ursine.dyndns.org/Top_Posting On Saturday 25 December 2004 7:20 pm, Ed Sutherland wrote: > Actually, I rarely "drive to the store" for software, but order online > and the FedEx guy (or gal) brings it to my door. So far (

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-25 Thread Brian Pack
On Sat, 2004-12-25 at 19:04 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Saturday 25 December 2004 3:40 pm, Ed Sutherland wrote: > > Another example: multimedia, > > such as playing MP3 audio files or downloading pictures from my > > digital camera. > > Not sure about the camera, but media of almost every

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-25 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 25 December 2004 6:23 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > There *are* ways to do GUI install, but not all s/w can be installed > point-and-click, and some s/w needs the command line to start, and > then does point-and-click for the rest of the installation. This is a nonissue. kpackage spawns a

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-25 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 25 December 2004 4:39 pm, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > As far as installing applications, with programs like synaptic (GUI > point-and-click) and aptitude (console-based, but still very easy to > use) it is simply a matter of choosing your new application, and > telling it to go. I would l

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-25 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 25 December 2004 3:40 pm, Ed Sutherland wrote: > I'd like to know beforehand, what functionality I'll lose when moving > from Windows to debian. For instance, point-and-click ease-of-use in > installing applications. You don't have that with Windows, though you'll gain it in Debia

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2004-12-25 at 18:40 -0500, Ed Sutherland wrote: > Let me hasten to say this is not, as the subject line might seem to > imply, a Linux-bashing question. > > I'm considering moving from Windows XP to some form of Linux, most > likely debian. I'd like to know beforehand, what functionality

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-25 Thread Rob Bochan
On Saturday 25 December 2004 06:40 pm, Ed Sutherland wrote: > Let me hasten to say this is not, as the subject line might seem to > imply, a Linux-bashing question. Nah, not taken as bashing in any way. It's an honest question if you don't know anything about it. > I'm considering moving from Wi

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-25 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Ed Sutherland wrote: Let me hasten to say this is not, as the subject line might seem to imply, a Linux-bashing question. I'm considering moving from Windows XP to some form of Linux, most likely debian. I'd like to know beforehand, what functionality I'll lose when moving from Windows to debian. F

Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-25 Thread H. S.
Apparently, _Ed Sutherland_, on 25/12/04 18:40,typed: Let me hasten to say this is not, as the subject line might seem to imply, a Linux-bashing question. I'm considering moving from Windows XP to some form of Linux, most likely debian. I'd like to know beforehand, what functionality I'll lose

Windows vs Linux Functionality?

2004-12-25 Thread Ed Sutherland
Let me hasten to say this is not, as the subject line might seem to imply, a Linux-bashing question. I'm considering moving from Windows XP to some form of Linux, most likely debian. I'd like to know beforehand, what functionality I'll lose when moving from Windows to debian. For instance, poin

Re: TCO - Windows vs Linux

2004-08-18 Thread John Summerfield
Magnus Therning wrote: On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 08:24:28AM -0400, Gregory Seidman wrote: On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 08:14:58PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: } "Microsoft has long asked third party analysts for accurate assessments } of the total cost of ownership of Microsoft Windows deployments,

Re: TCO - Windows vs Linux

2004-08-18 Thread Stephen Tait
I had loads of fun reading it, as did a few of my colleagues. I have to admit I first dissmissed it due to its title, until I realised they spell ownership with 0 (zero). /M I read the /. thread on this as well; I don't know which I found funnier - the article itself, or the number of people who

Re: TCO - Windows vs Linux

2004-08-18 Thread Magnus Therning
On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 08:24:28AM -0400, Gregory Seidman wrote: >On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 08:14:58PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: >} "Microsoft has long asked third party analysts for accurate assessments >} of the total cost of ownership of Microsoft Windows deployments, >} especially against

tc0 (Tee Cee Zero) - Windows vs. Linux. was (TCO - Windows vs Linux)

2004-08-14 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2004-08-14 at 20:14 +0800, John Summerfield wrote: > "Microsoft has long asked third party analysts for accurate assessments > of the total cost of ownership of Microsoft Windows deployments, > especially against the Linux deployments commonly going into all > segments of the market. How

Re: TCO - Windows vs Linux

2004-08-14 Thread Paul Gear
John Summerfield wrote: > "Microsoft has long asked third party analysts for accurate assessments > of the total cost of ownership of Microsoft Windows deployments, > especially against the Linux deployments commonly going into all > segments of the market. However, Immunity, Inc. as a third party

Re: TCO - Windows vs Linux

2004-08-14 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 08:24:28AM -0400, Gregory Seidman wrote: > On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 08:14:58PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: > } "Microsoft has long asked third party analysts for accurate assessments > } of the total cost of ownership of Microsoft Windows deployments, > } especially agai

Re: TCO - Windows vs Linux

2004-08-14 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 08:14:58PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: } "Microsoft has long asked third party analysts for accurate assessments } of the total cost of ownership of Microsoft Windows deployments, } especially against the Linux deployments commonly going into all } segments of the mark

TCO - Windows vs Linux

2004-08-14 Thread John Summerfield
"Microsoft has long asked third party analysts for accurate assessments of the total cost of ownership of Microsoft Windows deployments, especially against the Linux deployments commonly going into all segments of the market. However, Immunity, Inc. as a third party assessment provider has, unt

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2002-02-02 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Bruce Burhans wrote: > > And what was Unix designed to do? Play Pong on? Nah. Spacewar! -- Jaldhar H. Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It's a girl! See the pictures - http://www.braincells.com/shailaja/

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2002-02-02 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 23:14:29 -0500 Alec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 01 February 2002 02:20 pm, Noah Meyerhans wrote: > > >  > > > Just goes to show that "worse is better". > > > > In some ways, maybe, but Tanenbaum's points were perfectly valid.   > > What do you mean "but"? That's the p

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2002-02-01 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 23:14:29 -0500, Alec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 01 February 2002 02:20 pm, Noah Meyerhans wrote: > > >  > > > Just goes to show that "worse is better". > > > > In some ways, maybe, but Tanenbaum's points were perfectly valid.   > > What do you mean "but"? That's the

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2002-02-01 Thread Alec
On Friday 01 February 2002 02:20 pm, Noah Meyerhans wrote: > >  > > Just goes to show that "worse is better". > > In some ways, maybe, but Tanenbaum's points were perfectly valid.   What do you mean "but"? That's the point of "worse is better" (I think Dr. Dobbs Journal had a piece on this): Time

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2002-02-01 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 05:37:58AM +0800, csj wrote: > > Just goes to show that "worse is better". > > Probably the reason Linux was able to hijack the loyalties of the free > software community. Having focused developing the tools, the FSF was > taking its sweet time building the core of the Hurd

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2002-02-01 Thread csj
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 14:08:17 -0500 Alec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 01 February 2002 01:21 pm, Noah Meyerhans wrote: > > During the famous > > Linus/Tanenbaum debates of 10 years or so ago, Tanenbaum said that if > > Linux had been written for one of his OS classes, it would have receive

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2002-02-01 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 02:08:17PM -0500, Alec wrote: > > During the famous > > Linus/Tanenbaum debates of 10 years or so ago, Tanenbaum said that if > > Linux had been written for one of his OS classes, it would have received > > a failing grade (due to its monolithic kernel architecture). > > Ju

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2002-02-01 Thread Alec
On Friday 01 February 2002 01:21 pm, Noah Meyerhans wrote: > During the famous > Linus/Tanenbaum debates of 10 years or so ago, Tanenbaum said that if > Linux had been written for one of his OS classes, it would have received > a failing grade (due to its monolithic kernel architecture). Just goes

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2002-02-01 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 13:21:24 -0500 Noah Meyerhans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 12:01:50PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > AFAICT, Linux grew out of need for an _affordable_ and free POSIX kernel > > > so that you don't have to spend billions just to run UNIX like > > > OS. >

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2002-02-01 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 12:01:50PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > AFAICT, Linux grew out of need for an _affordable_ and free POSIX kernel > > so that you don't have to spend billions just to run UNIX like > > OS. > > It grew out of one man's University homework, and dissatisfaction > with Minix (a

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2002-02-01 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 01:38:07 -0600 Adam Majer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 09:49:32PM -0800, Bruce Burhans wrote: > > Someone asked me what the difference between Windows and Linux was, > > and I presumed to answer: > > > > Windows grew out of the work of self-invol

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2002-02-01 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 31/01/02 Bruce Burhans did speaketh: > Someone asked me what the difference between Windows and Linux was, > and I presumed to answer: > > Windows grew out of the work of self-involved gameplayers, and > Linux grew out of the work of people > concerned with using the computer to mak

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2002-02-01 Thread Bruce Burhans
Erik wrote, on 2/1/02: Bruce Burhans wrote: > > Someone asked me what the difference between Windows and Linux was, > and I presumed to answer: > > Windows grew out of the work of self-involved gameplayers, and > Linux grew out of the work of people > concerned with using the computer

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2002-02-01 Thread Erik Steffl
Bruce Burhans wrote: > > Someone asked me what the difference between Windows and Linux was, > and I presumed to answer: > > Windows grew out of the work of self-involved gameplayers, and > Linux grew out of the work of people > concerned with using the computer to make the world a bett

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2002-02-01 Thread Bruce Burhans
Adam Majer responed, on the below date: On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 09:49:32PM -0800, Bruce Burhans wrote: > Someone asked me what the difference between Windows and Linux was, > and I presumed to answer: > > Windows grew out of the work of self-involved gameplayers, and > Linux grew out of

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2002-02-01 Thread Adam Majer
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 09:49:32PM -0800, Bruce Burhans wrote: > Someone asked me what the difference between Windows and Linux was, > and I presumed to answer: > > Windows grew out of the work of self-involved gameplayers, and > Linux grew out of the work of people > concerned with usi

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2002-01-31 Thread ben
On Thursday 31 January 2002 09:49 pm, Bruce Burhans wrote: > Someone asked me what the difference between Windows and Linux was, > and I presumed to answer: > > Windows grew out of the work of self-involved gameplayers, and > Linux grew out of the work of people > concerned with using th

Windows vs. Linux

2002-01-31 Thread Bruce Burhans
Someone asked me what the difference between Windows and Linux was, and I presumed to answer: Windows grew out of the work of self-involved gameplayers, and Linux grew out of the work of people concerned with using the computer to make the world a better place. That's my impression,