Re: WiFi works during install, not after

2016-10-29 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 29 October 2016 20:17:03 Brian wrote: > On Sat 29 Oct 2016 at 17:26:38 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Saturday 29 October 2016 15:30:51 Carl Fink wrote: > > > On 10/29/2016 10:21 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 26 October 2016 18:24:04 Carl Fink wrote: > > > >> Thanks. > > >

Re: WiFi works during install, not after

2016-10-29 Thread Brian
On Sat 29 Oct 2016 at 17:26:38 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 29 October 2016 15:30:51 Carl Fink wrote: > > On 10/29/2016 10:21 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Wednesday 26 October 2016 18:24:04 Carl Fink wrote: > > >> Thanks. > > >> > > >> I actually remember seeing it now that you remind

Re: WiFi works during install, not after

2016-10-29 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 29 October 2016 15:30:51 Carl Fink wrote: > On 10/29/2016 10:21 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Wednesday 26 October 2016 18:24:04 Carl Fink wrote: > >> Thanks. > >> > >> I actually remember seeing it now that you remind me. > >> > >> Define "desktop". I set up Xfce4. > > > > But did you d

Re: WiFi works during install, not after

2016-10-29 Thread Brian
On Sat 29 Oct 2016 at 15:21:57 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 26 October 2016 18:24:04 Carl Fink wrote: > > Thanks. > > > > I actually remember seeing it now that you remind me. > > > > Define "desktop". I set up Xfce4. > > But did you do so DURING INSTALLATION? So the complete question

Re: WiFi works during install, not after

2016-10-29 Thread Carl Fink
On 10/29/2016 10:21 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Wednesday 26 October 2016 18:24:04 Carl Fink wrote: Thanks. I actually remember seeing it now that you remind me. Define "desktop". I set up Xfce4. But did you do so DURING INSTALLATION? So the complete question, which you have still not answered

Re: WiFi works during install, not after

2016-10-29 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 26 October 2016 18:24:04 Carl Fink wrote: > Thanks. > > I actually remember seeing it now that you remind me. > > Define "desktop". I set up Xfce4. But did you do so DURING INSTALLATION? So the complete question, which you have still not answered in its entirety, was: "Did you insta

Re: Fwd: WiFi works during install, not after

2016-10-27 Thread Brian
On Wed 26 Oct 2016 at 21:03:22 -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > On 10/26/2016 02:37 PM, Brian wrote: > >Debian derivatives are one thing, a fork of Debian is another. > >Personally, I draw the line at -user support for something which > >has its own support channels. > > > Fair enough. I should mention t

Re: Fwd: WiFi works during install, not after

2016-10-26 Thread Carl Fink
On 10/26/2016 02:37 PM, Brian wrote: Debian derivatives are one thing, a fork of Debian is another. Personally, I draw the line at -user support for something which has its own support channels. Fair enough. I should mention that I got identical results installing Debian, then tried Devuan hopi

Re: Fwd: WiFi works during install, not after

2016-10-26 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 13:15:24 -0400 Carl Fink wrote: > On 10/25/2016 12:48 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > I've been following your problem. Had something similar happen > > years ago. > > > > Have you checked if you installed "Laptop Tools" which includes wifi > > packages? They usually don't get

Re: Fwd: WiFi works during install, not after

2016-10-26 Thread Brian
On Wed 26 Oct 2016 at 13:15:24 -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > On 10/25/2016 12:48 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >I've been following your problem. Had something similar happen years > >ago. > > > >Have you checked if you installed "Laptop Tools" which includes wifi > >packages? They usually don't get in

Re: WiFi works during install, not after

2016-10-26 Thread Carl Fink
Thanks. I actually remember seeing it now that you remind me. Define "desktop". I set up Xfce4. Carl On 10/26/2016 01:19 PM, Brian wrote: On Wed 26 Oct 2016 at 12:57:54 -0400, Carl Fink wrote: Brian (and list): I actually went back to the archive (https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/

Re: WiFi works during install, not after

2016-10-26 Thread Brian
On Wed 26 Oct 2016 at 12:57:54 -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > Brian (and list): > > I actually went back to the archive > (https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/10/msg00852.html) and I can't > locate your first message containing the mysterious "first question". > > It also isn't in my mailbox. >

Re: Fwd: WiFi works during install, not after

2016-10-26 Thread Carl Fink
On 10/25/2016 12:48 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: I've been following your problem. Had something similar happen years ago. Have you checked if you installed "Laptop Tools" which includes wifi packages? They usually don't get installed automatically. Have you tried manually shutting down wifi and

Re: WiFi works during install, not after

2016-10-26 Thread Carl Fink
Brian (and list): I actually went back to the archive (https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/10/msg00852.html) and I can't locate your first message containing the mysterious "first question". It also isn't in my mailbox. Could you perhaps repeat? Carl Fink On 10/25/2016 12:48 PM, Bria

Re: Fwd: WiFi works during install, not after

2016-10-25 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 25 Oct 2016 09:27:22 -0400 Carl Fink wrote: > On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 08:46:41AM +0200, deloptes wrote: > > > Perhaps you get a different kernel version after install. > > Very possible. Does not exonerate the installer, IMO. > > > What are the messages in your syslog? > > I'll che

Re: WiFi works during install, not after

2016-10-25 Thread Brian
On Tue 25 Oct 2016 at 12:35:52 -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 03:27:44PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > I did notice. You are assuming the name of the module is "rtl8723au". > > There is no such module in staging - as your modprobe command tells > > you. Could we look at your 'lsm

Re: WiFi works during install, not after

2016-10-25 Thread Carl Fink
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 03:27:44PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > I did notice. You are assuming the name of the module is "rtl8723au". > There is no such module in staging - as your modprobe command tells > you. Could we look at your 'lsmod' too? Except that as I said, locate DOES find a module of that

Re: WiFi works during install, not after

2016-10-25 Thread Brian
On Tue 25 Oct 2016 at 09:38:16 -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 09:45:41AM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Sun 23 Oct 2016 at 17:09:06 -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > > > > Interestingly, the rtl8723au module is NOT loaded, and "modprobe > > > rtl8723au" > > > fails with a message about th

Re: WiFi works during install, not after

2016-10-25 Thread Carl Fink
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 09:45:41AM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sun 23 Oct 2016 at 17:09:06 -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > > Interestingly, the rtl8723au module is NOT loaded, and "modprobe rtl8723au" > > fails with a message about the module not being found, even though it's > > right there if I "locate r

Re: Fwd: WiFi works during install, not after

2016-10-25 Thread Carl Fink
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 08:46:41AM +0200, deloptes wrote: > Perhaps you get a different kernel version after install. Very possible. Does not exonerate the installer, IMO. > What are the messages in your syslog? I'll check when I get home--I don't use my personal system at work. >Do you hav

Re: WiFi works during install, not after

2016-10-25 Thread Brian
On Sun 23 Oct 2016 at 17:09:06 -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > So I have a ThinkPad Yoga 11s ultrabook. > > If I copy over the firmware-realtek package, Debian can install just fine > over the WiFi connection. (I don't have wired internet at my home.) > > After install, everything is fine, except I ca

Re: Fwd: WiFi works during install, not after

2016-10-24 Thread deloptes
t; Subject: WiFi works during install, not after > Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 21:09:25 + (UTC) > Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 17:09:06 -0400 > From: Carl Fink > To: Debian Users > > > > So I have

Re: WiFi works during install, not after

2016-10-24 Thread Jude DaShiell
On Mon, 24 Oct 2016, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 04:16:12 From: to...@tuxteam.de To: Carl Fink Cc: Debian Users Subject: Re: WiFi works during install, not after Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 08:16:29 + (UTC) Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org -BEGIN PGP

Fwd: WiFi works during install, not after

2016-10-24 Thread Carl Fink
So, I gather no one has any insights and I should just file a bug against ... firmware-realtek? The installer? Can anyone maybe suggest which package the bug should be filed against? Thanks. Carl Forwarded Message Subject:WiFi works during install, not after Resent

Re: WiFi works during install, not after

2016-10-24 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 05:09:06PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > So I have a ThinkPad Yoga 11s ultrabook. > > If I copy over the firmware-realtek package, Debian can install just > fine over the WiFi connection. (I don't have wired internet at my > home.)

WiFi works during install, not after

2016-10-23 Thread Carl Fink
So I have a ThinkPad Yoga 11s ultrabook. If I copy over the firmware-realtek package, Debian can install just fine over the WiFi connection. (I don't have wired internet at my home.) After install, everything is fine, except I can't connect to the WiFi. I know it's possible because the instal