Re: Which FS for USB Flash Drive

2009-01-29 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Do you know any resource where I can find the steps on how to install > on JFFS2? In http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~monnier/gnu-linux/debian-live-usb I outlined the steps I took to create my "Debian on flash" rescue key. It would probably need a little bit of updating, but the core part should wo

Re: Which FS for USB Flash Drive

2009-01-28 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 2009 January 27 19:11:45 Kushal Koolwal wrote: >> Probably the best r/w filesystem for flash based devices in JFFS2. > >I don't recollect an option of formatting the FS as JFFS2 in the Debian > Lenny Installation CD? Nope, but it is possible take an existing filesystem and build a JFFS2

Re: Which FS for USB Flash Drive

2009-01-28 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jan 28, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Kushal Koolwal wrote: Hi Rick, If you will, it's doing the JFFS2 thing for you -- you don't need the software in the kernel to do it a second time. Do you know any resource where I can find the steps on how to install on JFFS2? Also I was wondering if all t

Re: Which FS for USB Flash Drive

2009-01-28 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kushal Koolwal wrote: > Also I was wondering if all this what we discussed regarding ext2 > (noatime or relatime option) on USB flash drive holds true for USB > hard drives also? AFAIU USB hard drives are exactly like IDE hard > drives with just an USB

RE: Which FS for USB Flash Drive

2009-01-28 Thread Kushal Koolwal
Hi Rick, > If you will, it's doing the JFFS2 thing for you -- you don't need the > software in the kernel to do it a second time. Do you know any resource where I can find the steps on how to install on JFFS2? Also I was wondering if all this what we discussed regarding ext2 (noatime or relati

Re: Which FS for USB Flash Drive

2009-01-27 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jan 27, 2009, at 8:11 PM, Kushal Koolwal wrote: Probably the best r/w filesystem for flash based devices in JFFS2. I don't recollect an option of formatting the FS as JFFS2 in the Debian Lenny Installation CD? JFFS2 isn't for USB Flash "thumb drives". It's for the kind of raw flash

Re: Which FS for USB Flash Drive

2009-01-27 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Something to consider is: do you want swap on your flash drive or not? Depends on your use case. In general, I'd say you probably do want some amount of swap, tho you'll probably want to set your swappinness such that the swap space is used sparingly, since it's not a fast drive. > Don't you

Re: Which FS for USB Flash Drive

2009-01-27 Thread Stefan Monnier
>>> AFAIK, a live usb system would not allow me to write data >>> persistently just like a live CD. > How did you get this idea? Read [2]. While it does allow it, it does not allow it in quite the same way as a normal Debian system. E.g. it is not meant to be used day-in/day-out and upgraded from

Re: Which FS for USB Flash Drive

2009-01-27 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> Does anybody have any experience with installing Debian (say Lenny) on USB >> flash drives? I have a small Debian system installed on my flash key. It's basically a rescue system, but is just a "normal" Debian testing, which I have been upgrading every once in a while with apt-get. >> I woul

Re: Which FS for USB Flash Drive

2009-01-27 Thread Mike Castle
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Kushal Koolwal wrote: > Hi, > > Does anybody have any experience with installing Debian (say Lenny) on USB > flash drives? I would like to install Debian on my PQI 4 GB USB flash drive > but I am not sure which filesystem to use - ext2, ext3, XFS? I just grabbed

RE: Which FS for USB Flash Drive

2009-01-27 Thread Kushal Koolwal
> Probably the best r/w filesystem for flash based devices in JFFS2. I don't recollect an option of formatting the FS as JFFS2 in the Debian Lenny Installation CD? >Live is exactly what you want, but it can't be a direct conversion of a Live >CD, since they generally use a r/o squashfs, for the c

Re: Which FS for USB Flash Drive

2009-01-27 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:15:15 -0800 Kushal Koolwal wrote: ... > Finally if anybody has followed any particular tutorial to create a Debian > Live USB flash drive, can you point that out? Otherwise I will just do a wild > search and pick one of them. http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/ http:/

Re: Which FS for USB Flash Drive

2009-01-27 Thread Mark Allums
elijah rutschman wrote: > I've done something like this and it worked pretty well with etch-and-a-half several months ago. I just used ext2 as the filesystem for simplicity and haven't had any issues thus far. I have heard that flash storage these days sustains enough write cycles to outlive t

RE: Which FS for USB Flash Drive

2009-01-27 Thread Kushal Koolwal
>Ie. you want to write 'data' to it as opposed to install debian to it. Both. Sorry for the confusion. I would like to install Debian on USB Flash drive and also read/write data (store files,etc.) just like a hard drive. > How did you get this idea? Read [2]. Thanks for the link and clearing my

Re: Which FS for USB Flash Drive

2009-01-27 Thread elijah rutschman
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Kushal Koolwal wrote: > Does anybody have any experience with installing Debian (say Lenny) on USB > flash drives? I would like to install Debian on my PQI 4 GB USB flash drive > but I am not sure which filesystem to use - ext2, ext3, XFS? I've done something like

Re: Which FS for USB Flash Drive

2009-01-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 2009 January 27 13:07:55 Kushal Koolwal wrote: >Does anybody have any experience with installing Debian (say Lenny) on USB > flash drives? Not yet. I am interested in carrying around a Debian installation in the future though. > I would like to install Debian on my PQI 4 GB USB flas

Re: Which FS for USB Flash Drive

2009-01-27 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Johannes Wiedersich [2009 Jan 27 16:25 -0600]: > ... or ext2 if you don't want a journal and reduce the r/w load of the > device [1]: > > > ext2 is still recommended over journaling file systems on bootable > > USB flash drives and other solid-state drives. ext2 performs fewer > > writes than

Re: Which FS for USB Flash Drive

2009-01-27 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/27/2009 03:13 PM, Kushal Koolwal wrote: >> I would like to use my USB device for reading and writing to the >> drive just as we do on a regular IDE hard drive. Ie. you want to write 'data' to it as opposed to install debian

Re: Which FS for USB Flash Drive

2009-01-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/27/2009 03:13 PM, Kushal Koolwal wrote: What is the difference? What difference do you want to achieve with respect to a 'live' debian system? I would like to use my USB device for reading and writing to the drive just as we do on a regular IDE hard drive. AFAIK, a live usb system would

RE: Which FS for USB Flash Drive

2009-01-27 Thread Kushal Koolwal
rg > Subject: Which FS for USB Flash Drive > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:07:55 -0800 > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > Does anybody have any experience with installing Debian (say Lenny) on USB > flash drives? I would like to install Debian on my PQI 4 GB USB fl

Re: Which FS for USB Flash Drive

2009-01-27 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kushal Koolwal wrote: > I am tried searching around the internet but most of the articles > talk about preparing a LIVE USB flash drive which is *not* what I > would like to do. I just want a plain Debian system on my USB flash > drive just like on any

Which FS for USB Flash Drive

2009-01-27 Thread Kushal Koolwal
Hi, Does anybody have any experience with installing Debian (say Lenny) on USB flash drives? I would like to install Debian on my PQI 4 GB USB flash drive but I am not sure which filesystem to use - ext2, ext3, XFS? My primary concern/criteria in selecting a fs would be throughput/perform