Re: Wally Lepore

2012-11-03 Thread Slavko
Hi, Dňa Fri, 2 Nov 2012 17:48:06 -0400 Wally Lepore napísal: > My absent from the list and this specific thread was simply > a decision to take 'pause', identify and correct my email problem. > > The debian-user list is the first active mailing list I've > jo

Re: Mail clients [was: Re: Wally Lepore]

2012-10-21 Thread lee
Andrei POPESCU writes: > On Sb, 20 oct 12, 06:54:21, lee wrote: >> >> Wally wants to learn some C programming, thus I suggested he learn emacs >> and might use gnus and try out vim and/or joe, whatever he likes best. >> Perhaps I should have mentioned mutt as well, but mutt with imap can be >> r

Re: Mail clients [was: Re: Wally Lepore]

2012-10-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 21 oct 12, 11:10:09, Erwan David wrote: > On 21/10/12 10:51, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > Mutt + Gmail, now that is a challenge! > > > Not really, the challenge is mutt + heavy html emails... > GMail is easy once you activate imap and use mutt as an imap reader (in > that case it's better to u

Re: Mail clients [was: Re: Wally Lepore]

2012-10-21 Thread Erwan David
On 21/10/12 10:51, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 20 oct 12, 06:54:21, lee wrote: >> >> Wally wants to learn some C programming, thus I suggested he learn emacs >> and might use gnus and try out vim and/or joe, whatever he likes best. >> Perhaps I should have mentioned mutt as well, but mutt with i

Mail clients [was: Re: Wally Lepore]

2012-10-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 20 oct 12, 06:54:21, lee wrote: > > Wally wants to learn some C programming, thus I suggested he learn emacs > and might use gnus and try out vim and/or joe, whatever he likes best. > Perhaps I should have mentioned mutt as well, but mutt with imap can be > rather awkward. Could you please

Re: Wally Lepore

2012-10-19 Thread lee
Neal Murphy writes: > On Friday, October 19, 2012 08:27:25 PM Chris Bannister wrote: >> ... >> > I will add that, if anyone does take the emacs+gnus route they will have >> a powerful and versatile system which a lot of developers/users swear by. >> >> On the other hand, a lot of developers/user

Re: Wally Lepore

2012-10-19 Thread lee
Chris Bannister writes: > Huh? Last I looked, Gnus was a newsreader and requires emacs to be > installed. Look closer, it is a very powerful MUA as well. > Please don't confuse newcomers to Linux. I suggested that he learn to use emacs in some other posts. -- Debian testing iad96 brokenarch

Re: Wally Lepore

2012-10-19 Thread John Hasler
> OK, Should I have said "Last I looked, Gnus was a newsreader but if > you jump through a few hoops and get used to a different paradigm it > can be used as an MUA. No more need to jump through hoops than with any other MUA. > If you know, and enjoy LISP then configuring it will be an enjoyable

Re: Wally Lepore

2012-10-19 Thread Neal Murphy
On Friday, October 19, 2012 08:27:25 PM Chris Bannister wrote: > ... > > I will add that, if anyone does take the emacs+gnus route they will have > a powerful and versatile system which a lot of developers/users swear by. > > On the other hand, a lot of developers/users swear by the vim+mutt route

Re: Wally Lepore

2012-10-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 06:00:35PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Chris Bannister writes: > > Last I looked, Gnus was a newsreader... > > You didn't look very closely. Gnus works quite well for both news and > email and offers all the advantages of a newsreader such as groups, > killfiles, scoring,

Re: Wally Lepore

2012-10-19 Thread John Hasler
> I used emacs back when it was written in TECO and have used a few > flavors since. So have I, but I also use the current version. Hint: it has _menus_. > I'd *never* advise a new user to use emacs. I would. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org w

Re: Wally Lepore

2012-10-19 Thread Neal Murphy
On Friday, October 19, 2012 07:00:35 PM John Hasler wrote: > > ...and requires emacs to be installed. > > So what? I used emacs back when it was written in TECO and have used a few flavors since. I'd *never* advise a new user to use emacs. They have enough to learn; they don't need to double or

Re: Wally Lepore

2012-10-19 Thread John Hasler
Chris Bannister writes: > Last I looked, Gnus was a newsreader... You didn't look very closely. Gnus works quite well for both news and email and offers all the advantages of a newsreader such as groups, killfiles, scoring, and threading. It is intended to be used for both. > ...and requires em

Re: Wally Lepore

2012-10-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 05:37:03PM +0200, lee wrote: > Wally Lepore writes: > > > In fact, its very time consuming to have to structure emails in that > > fashion and its not something I look forward to. > > A decent MUA would make things a lot easier for you. Gnus is

Re: Wally Lepore

2012-10-18 Thread lee
Lisi writes: > considerable lengths to try and get him there. I have even been told that I > should be ashamed of myself for telling him to just grab the bull by the > horns and do it. That is a misunderstanding. What I've been trying to say is that there's someone who's trying to actually d

Re: Wally Lepore

2012-10-18 Thread lee
Lisi writes: > It is getting beyond a joke. I can certainly say that I emphatically do not > want a _personal_ copy in addition to the mailing list one. This is a > problem that I have never met before, hope never to meet again, and it is > ridiculous. It happens from time to time on variou

Re: Wally Lepore - last words.

2012-10-18 Thread lee
Wally Lepore writes: > feeling. I only replied to two email addresses: Lisi and the user-list > (reply-all). That is exactly what Lisi doesn't want you to do. She wants you to reply to the list only and *not* to her address. -- Debian testing iad96 brokenarch -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: Wally Lepore

2012-10-18 Thread lee
Wally Lepore writes: > In fact, its very time consuming to have to structure emails in that > fashion and its not something I look forward to. A decent MUA would make things a lot easier for you. Gnus is said to work well with gmail. > I read all your posts in this thread and to be

Re: Wally Lepore

2012-10-18 Thread lee
Jon Dowland writes: > failings. The mails you are receiving will have a proper List-Id > header. They are CCs and, of course, don't have a List-Id header. Even if they had one: If your filtering puts mails addressed to you through a CC header somewhere else just because it contains a List-Id h

Re: Re: Wally Lepore - last words.

2012-10-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 20:02 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > what on earth is 'kill-file him' http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=%2Fdev%2Fnull http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//dev/null -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Re: Wally Lepore - last words.

2012-10-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-10-17 at 02:48 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 20:02 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > > what on earth is 'kill-file him' > > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=%2Fdev%2Fnull > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//dev/null Apologize

Re: Re: Wally Lepore - last words.

2012-10-16 Thread Wally Lepore
> The mail user agent Evolution, GNOME's mailer, easily can be configured > to reply only to the mailing list. > Edit > Preferences > Composer Preferences > [x] Group Rely goes only to > mailing list, if possible > Checked or unchecked it's always possible, instead of pushing the Group > Reply bu

Re: Wally Lepore - last words.

2012-10-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
The mail user agent Evolution, GNOME's mailer, easily can be configured to reply only to the mailing list. Edit > Preferences > Composer Preferences > [x] Group Rely goes only to mailing list, if possible Checked or unchecked it's always possible, instead of pushing the Group Reply button, to pus

Re: Wally Lepore - last words.

2012-10-16 Thread Lisi
Tuesday 16 October 2012 21:41:28 Wally Lepore wrote: [snip] Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201210162350.12335.lisi.re...@gmail.com

Re: Wally Lepore

2012-10-16 Thread Wally Lepore
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > Looking at the archives I see that his replies do address a lot of > people who have not even participated in the thread (yet), for example > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/10/msg00603.html Andrei, Appreciate your advice but pl

Re: Wally Lepore

2012-10-16 Thread Wally Lepore
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 5:21 AM, Lisi wrote: > On Tuesday 16 October 2012 10:06:30 Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> [changed the subject since it has nothing to do with Wally] > > My request does have something to do with Wally, in fact everything to do with > him. It is his emails that are generating th

Re: [was: Re: Wally Lepore]

2012-10-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 10:44 +0100, Lisi wrote: > This is turning into a flame C'mon ;)! Btw. I hope my subject fit to the needs of both of you. Everybody subscribed to a mailing list, should use software that is able to handle all kinds of annoyance. In Germany we say "Der beweglichere macht pl

Re: Wally Lepore

2012-10-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 16 oct 12, 11:54:51, Lisi wrote: > On Tuesday 16 October 2012 11:35:39 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > In this particular case I don't think Wally needs help, just a bit more > > confidence in his abilities ;) but I have received lots of CCs in the > > past as well. > > Yes, so have I. But I am

Re: Wally Lepore

2012-10-16 Thread Jon Dowland
I for one am tired of reading OT threads about people's own mail filtering failings. The mails you are receiving will have a proper List-Id header. If your mailer cannot filter on them, then please fix your mailer or change it, don't clog thie list with more irrelevance. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Wally Lepore

2012-10-16 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 16 October 2012 11:35:39 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > In this particular case I don't think Wally needs help, just a bit more > confidence in his abilities ;) but I have received lots of CCs in the > past as well. Yes, so have I. But I am currently getting 95% or more of my personal email

Re: Wally Lepore

2012-10-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 16 oct 12, 10:21:00, Lisi wrote: > On Tuesday 16 October 2012 10:06:30 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > [changed the subject since it has nothing to do with Wally] > > My request does have something to do with Wally, in fact everything to do > with > him. It is his emails that are generating th

Re: Wally Lepore

2012-10-16 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 16 October 2012 10:22:27 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 16 oct 12, 12:06:30, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > Unfortunately the CoC is ignored a lot in this regard. You could set up > > a filter in Gmail to archive or delete such mails if you are 100% sure > > you don't need them. > > To elab

Re: List messages CCd to persons [was: Re: Wally Lepore]

2012-10-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 16 oct 12, 12:06:30, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > Unfortunately the CoC is ignored a lot in this regard. You could set up > a filter in Gmail to archive or delete such mails if you are 100% sure > you don't need them. To elaborate on the filter: In the Gmail web interface type this in the

Re: Wally Lepore

2012-10-16 Thread Lisi
, 16 oct 12, 09:29:45, Lisi wrote: > > Please, everyone, could _everybody_ stop sending Wally Lepore messages to > > my npersonal inbox. It is becoming a real nuisance. I keep list > > separately for a reason. > > > > I realise that you may need to be sure to eliminate

List messages CCd to persons [was: Re: Wally Lepore]

2012-10-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
[changed the subject since it has nothing to do with Wally] On Ma, 16 oct 12, 09:29:45, Lisi wrote: > Please, everyone, could _everybody_ stop sending Wally Lepore messages to my > npersonal inbox. It is becoming a real nuisance. I keep list separately for > a reason. > > I r

Wally Lepore

2012-10-16 Thread Lisi
Please, everyone, could _everybody_ stop sending Wally Lepore messages to my npersonal inbox. It is becoming a real nuisance. I keep list separately for a reason. I realise that you may need to be sure to eliminate my name from the list if you want to "reply all", but if we can