Re: Using loop devices in Debian

2014-02-09 Thread Richard Owlett
Richard Owlett wrote: Having read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loop_device, I suspect using a loop device will alleviate some of my problems. [SNIP paragraphs which confused everyone. Thanks to those those who tried.] I'm looking for something which expands on the first half dozen paragraphs

Re: Using loop devices in Debian

2014-01-27 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 26 ian 14, 02:53:25, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > *) > If you want or need to increase the maximum number of loopback devices > available _by_default_ when you next boot, edit > /etc/modules > and make sure there is a line like the following (I have 11 by default): > loop max_loop=11 I'd rat

Re: Using loop devices in Debian

2014-01-27 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 24 ian 14, 08:06:15, Richard Owlett wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >On Vi, 24 ian 14, 11:50:25, David wrote: > >> > >>So where you have several dvd iso files, then ordinarily you would > >>need several separate loop mounts. Unless you create a filesystem in > >>one huge file, copy all the

Re: Using loop devices in Debian

2014-01-26 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 08:04:53AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > Having read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loop_device, I suspect > using a loop device will alleviate some of my problems. > It should do. Install methods for Debian on machines supporting a CD/DVD: 1. Boot from a physical CD / D

Re: Using loop devices in Debian

2014-01-25 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 1/26/14, David wrote: > On 26 January 2014 02:53, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> >> OK, loopback mounting: > > I wish people would clearly distinguish "loop" devices from "loopback" > devices. Just after you clarified this very point the other day too ... oh well, I shall try harder next time :)

Re: Using loop devices in Debian

2014-01-25 Thread David
On 26 January 2014 02:53, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > OK, loopback mounting: I wish people would clearly distinguish "loop" devices from "loopback" devices. The word loopback appears nowhere in 'man losetup', nor in any actual command for a loop device, but somehow it has come into widespread use

Re: Using loop devices in Debian

2014-01-25 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 1/26/14, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > *) > Now you can mount an ISO image, using an available (currently unused) > loop device, as follows: > LO_DEV=`losetup -f --show my-iso-file.iso`; echo $LO_DEV > This command will give you output of the loop device filename chosen > and used (if successful) b

Re: Using loop devices in Debian

2014-01-25 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 1/26/14, Richard Owlett wrote: > Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> On 1/24/14, Richard Owlett wrote: >>> Having read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loop_device, I suspect >>> using a loop device will alleviate some of my problems. >> >> Let's make sure we're not in XY problem territory. > > *GRIN* ! >

Re: Using loop devices in Debian

2014-01-25 Thread Richard Owlett
Zenaan Harkness wrote: On 1/25/14, David wrote: Sorry for replying to myself again with further thoughts ... So you should be! My god! Another Debian user trying to be helpful ... what has the world come to!! Next we'll be offering further assistance to those who get stuck... Another option

Re: Using loop devices in Debian

2014-01-25 Thread Richard Owlett
Zenaan Harkness wrote: On 1/24/14, Richard Owlett wrote: Having read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loop_device, I suspect using a loop device will alleviate some of my problems. Let's make sure we're not in XY problem territory. *GRIN* ! IOW Not sure if *IN*, but definitely at least near. W

Re: Using loop devices in Debian

2014-01-24 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 1/25/14, David wrote: > Sorry for replying to myself again with further thoughts ... So you should be! My god! Another Debian user trying to be helpful ... what has the world come to!! Next we'll be offering further assistance to those who get stuck... > Another option to consider is to parti

Re: Using loop devices in Debian

2014-01-24 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 1/24/14, Richard Owlett wrote: > Having read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loop_device, I suspect > using a loop device will alleviate some of my problems. Let's make sure we're not in XY problem territory. > I'm doing a series of installs to find an optimum configuration > for my personal nee

Re: Using loop devices in Debian

2014-01-24 Thread David
Sorry for replying to myself again with further thoughts ... Another option to consider is to partition your hard drive and copy all the DVD/iso contents there, and then tell the installer to read the files from there while it is installing to a different partition on the same hard drive. Why am

Re: Using loop devices in Debian

2014-01-24 Thread David
On 25 January 2014 01:00, Richard Owlett wrote: > David wrote: >> >> I forgot to mention that an alternative approach could be to serve the >> dvd or mounted iso file contents from another machine on your LAN >> rather than from a flash drive. > > No LAN exists. Just in case I wasn't clear, "your

Re: Using loop devices in Debian

2014-01-24 Thread Richard Owlett
Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 24 ian 14, 11:50:25, David wrote: So where you have several dvd iso files, then ordinarily you would need several separate loop mounts. Unless you create a filesystem in one huge file, copy all the iso's into it, and then loop mount that huge file. That sounds like

Re: Using loop devices in Debian

2014-01-24 Thread Richard Owlett
David wrote: I forgot to mention that an alternative approach could be to serve the dvd or mounted iso file contents from another machine on your LAN rather than from a flash drive. No LAN exists. In answer to related questions, others have unsuccessfully suggested virtual machines. Instal

Re: Using loop devices in Debian

2014-01-24 Thread Richard Owlett
David wrote: On 24 January 2014 01:04, Richard Owlett wrote: As I DO NOT have high speed internet available I have purchased a set of Squeeze DVD's. My impression is that I should be able to copy the set of DVD's to a flash drive and access as loop device to save physically handling DVD's whe

Re: Using loop devices in Debian

2014-01-24 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 24 ian 14, 11:50:25, David wrote: > > So where you have several dvd iso files, then ordinarily you would > need several separate loop mounts. Unless you create a filesystem in > one huge file, copy all the iso's into it, and then loop mount that > huge file. That sounds like a very ugly ide

Re: Using loop devices in Debian

2014-01-23 Thread David
I forgot to mention that an alternative approach could be to serve the dvd or mounted iso file contents from another machine on your LAN rather than from a flash drive. Installers usually have some way to do this but I have forgotten the specifics (maybe I even did that on Fedora not Debian, I for

Re: Using loop devices in Debian

2014-01-23 Thread David
On 24 January 2014 01:04, Richard Owlett wrote: > > As I DO NOT have high speed internet available I have purchased a set of > Squeeze DVD's. > > My impression is that I should be able to copy the set of DVD's to a flash > drive and access as loop device to save physically handling DVD's when usin

Using loop devices in Debian

2014-01-23 Thread Richard Owlett
Having read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loop_device, I suspect using a loop device will alleviate some of my problems. I'm doing a series of installs to find an optimum configuration for my personal needs. As I DO NOT have high speed internet available I have purchased a set of Squeeze DVD's.