On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 03:22:54PM -0700, Alan Connor wrote:
>
> What's the big deal about formatting and partitioning? Takes a couple of
> minutes with cfdisk and mke2fs.
>
> On the other hand, I have use dd to clone boot floppies, so??
My two pennorth: I would only use dd in cases whe
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 10:45:03AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have to ask a dumb question. When booting is lilo.conf read?
no. lilo cannot read filesystems. The inverse is what is s good
about grub.
> Or is lilo.conf only used for writing the MBR plus the additional boot
> sectors?
I have to ask a dumb question. When booting is lilo.conf read?
Or is lilo.conf only used for writing the MBR plus the additional boot
sectors? I assume it's not read while booting.
I'm trying to understand the "disk", "boot", and "root" options in
lilo.conf and when they are used (i.e. are the
On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 02:59, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 02:26, Ron Johnson wrote:
> --snip--
> > So you have
> > /dev/hda1 /
> > /dev/hda2 /usr
> > /dev/hda3 /var
> >
> > that you want to clone to /dev/hdc1, /dev/hdc2, /dev/hdc3.
> >
> > You must mount, the hdc partitions,
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On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 12:53:27PM -0700, Bill Moseley wrote:
> Will that work with the hardware RAID array? If so will it also copy
> the MBR?
I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work with a hardware RAID
array, but I don't work with RAID system
On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 02:26, Ron Johnson wrote:
--snip--
> So you have
> /dev/hda1 /
> /dev/hda2 /usr
> /dev/hda3 /var
>
> that you want to clone to /dev/hdc1, /dev/hdc2, /dev/hdc3.
>
> You must mount, the hdc partitions, as, for example:
> /backup/hdc/1
> /backup/hdc/2
> /backup/hdc/3
>
> T
On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 01:27, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 18:55, Alan Connor wrote:
> > > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 28 16:24:31 2003
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 17:22, Alan Connor wrote:
> > > /var, /etc and /usr/bin, things can get sticky regarding symlinks.
>
On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 01:14, Bill Moseley wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 07:55:24AM +0200, Rogier Wolff wrote:
--snip--
> > Oh, Note that you'd be copying a LIVE partition. A logging filesystem
> > like ext3 or XFS will take care in writing stuff to the drive in the
> > right order. You're screwi
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 11:14:32PM -0700, Bill Moseley wrote:
> > Note that I'm recommending you run lilo while you're concerned about
> > the MBR. It might work, but running LILO again gives you a bigger
> > chance to get it to work
>
> Yes, I would think I'd need to do that. The RAID card i
On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 18:55, Alan Connor wrote:
> > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 28 16:24:31 2003
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 17:22, Alan Connor wrote:
> > /var, /etc and /usr/bin, things can get sticky regarding symlinks.
> >
> > If there's a little shell script that can handle multiple
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 07:55:24AM +0200, Rogier Wolff wrote:
> > Can I build a new bare metal drive on /dev/hda using dd
> >
> >dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/hda
> >
> > Will that work with the hardware RAID array? If so will it also copy
> > the MBR?
>
> Yep. Yep.
>
> > The destination drive
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 12:53:27PM -0700, Bill Moseley wrote:
> I need to clone a disk. The source is a 3ware hardware RAID 1 array.
> >From Linux it looks like /dev/sda
>
> $ mount
> /dev/sda2 on / type xfs (rw)
> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620
On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 18:28, Bill Moseley wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 06:01:35PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>
> > > About the symlinks that Ron mentions, I really don't know. Just have my own
> > > experience to draw on. I guess if what you were cloning wasn't self-contained
> > > that would b
On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 20:25, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 04:09:32PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 15:32, Alan Connor wrote:
> > > Use cp -a . Dd is just a dumb parrot and knows nothing about filesystems.
> >
> > One thing to watch about, though, is that syml
Greetings!
* Bret Comstock Waldow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-Jul-28 16:33 AKDT]:
> dd has never failed me. My situation is different than his, but I've
> used it extensively.
>
> I have a Thinkpad, and there's no cost effective way to backup up 20G.
> I bought a second, identical drive and a car
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 04:09:32PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 15:32, Alan Connor wrote:
> > Use cp -a . Dd is just a dumb parrot and knows nothing about filesystems.
>
> One thing to watch about, though, is that symlinks will remain pointing
> back to the original "real" fil
On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 18:22, Alan Connor wrote:
> There have been endless discussions about this on various linux groups, and
> the consensus is that dd is not a good idea for this.
dd has never failed me. My situation is different than his, but I've
used it extensively.
I have a Thinkpad, and
On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 16:32, Alan Connor wrote:
> Use cp -a . Dd is just a dumb parrot and knows nothing about filesystems.
Yes. dd can pick up partition information for this reason.
dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdc bs=512
will transfer across the partitions and the master boot record. It's
not cle
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 28 16:24:31 2003
>
>
> On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 17:22, Alan Connor wrote:
> /var, /etc and /usr/bin, things can get sticky regarding symlinks.
>
> If there's a little shell script that can handle multiple symlink
> redirection, I'm not smart enough to think of it...
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 06:01:35PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > About the symlinks that Ron mentions, I really don't know. Just have my own
> > experience to draw on. I guess if what you were cloning wasn't self-contained
> > that would be something to deal with. Something for a little shell scri
On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 17:22, Alan Connor wrote:
> > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 28 15:14:20 2003
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 01:32:06PM -0700, Alan Connor wrote:
> > > > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 28 13:31:19 2003
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Use cp -a . Dd is just a dumb
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 28 15:32:16 2003
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>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 01:32:06PM -0700, Alan Connor wrote:
> > > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 28 13:31:19 2003
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Use cp -a . Dd is just a dumb parrot and knows nothing about filesystems.
>
> Well, I think that'
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 28 15:14:20 2003
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> On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 01:32:06PM -0700, Alan Connor wrote:
> > > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 28 13:31:19 2003
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Use cp -a . Dd is just a dumb parrot and knows nothing about filesystems.
>
> Well, I think that'
On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 15:59, Bret Comstock Waldow wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 15:53, Bill Moseley wrote:
> > I need to clone a disk. The source is a 3ware hardware RAID 1 array.
> > >From Linux it looks like /dev/sda
>
>
>
[snip]
> I do it this way:
> date; dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/null bs=
On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 15:32, Alan Connor wrote:
> > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 28 13:31:19 2003
> >
> >
>
>
> Use cp -a . Dd is just a dumb parrot and knows nothing about filesystems.
One thing to watch about, though, is that symlinks will remain pointing
back to the original "real" file,
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 01:32:06PM -0700, Alan Connor wrote:
> > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 28 13:31:19 2003
> >
> >
>
>
> Use cp -a . Dd is just a dumb parrot and knows nothing about filesystems.
Well, I think that's the reason to use dd. I just want to clone the
drive and not have to p
On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 15:53, Bill Moseley wrote:
> I need to clone a disk. The source is a 3ware hardware RAID 1 array.
> >From Linux it looks like /dev/sda
> Can I build a new bare metal drive on /dev/hda using dd
>
>dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/hda
I don't know, but I have (possibly useles
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 28 13:31:19 2003
>
>
Use cp -a . Dd is just a dumb parrot and knows nothing about filesystems.
Alan
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I need to clone a disk. The source is a 3ware hardware RAID 1 array.
>From Linux it looks like /dev/sda
$ mount
/dev/sda2 on / type xfs (rw)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
/dev/sda5 on /tmp type xfs (rw)
/dev/sda6 on /usr type xfs (rw)
/dev/sda7
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