Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-02-03 Thread Brad Sawatzky
On Tue, 03 Feb 2009, Aneurin Price wrote: > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On 02/03/2009 05:01 AM, Avi Greenbury wrote: > > > > That's a design issue (I think) specific to Windows. Has to do with the > > decision to map video card RAM into regular address space (even on

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-02-03 Thread Aneurin Price
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/03/2009 05:01 AM, Avi Greenbury wrote: >> >> Ron Johnson wrote: >> > On 02/01/2009 10:04 AM, Mirko Scurk wrote: >> > [snip] >> >> >> >> Could it be that 32-bit Debian can't access rest of memory? >> >> >> > >> > That would only be

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-02-03 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/03/2009 05:01 AM, Avi Greenbury wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/01/2009 10:04 AM, Mirko Scurk wrote: > [snip] >> >> Could it be that 32-bit Debian can't access rest of memory? >> > > That would only be an issue if he could only see (I think) 2GB of his > 4GB RAM. > Really? The o

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-02-03 Thread Avi Greenbury
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/01/2009 10:04 AM, Mirko Scurk wrote: > [snip] >> >> Could it be that 32-bit Debian can't access rest of memory? >> > > That would only be an issue if he could only see (I think) 2GB of his > 4GB RAM. > Really? The only system on which I've >3Gb of ram and a 32bit OS is

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-02-02 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/02/2009 11:34 AM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:04:19PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/30/2009 09:54 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 02:52:34AM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 12:54:34AM +, Dean Chester wrote: If a 100%

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-02-02 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> Try to run `free' to get a more detailed break up (or even "cat >> /proc/meminfo"). > Running free -g on my system returns 3. I have 4. > Running cat /proc/meminfo returns 4030668KB, which is 3.84GB according > to onlineconversion, closer. Does RAM also have a sort of FAT? No, it's just that s

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-02-02 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:04:19PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/30/2009 09:54 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > >On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 02:52:34AM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > >>On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 12:54:34AM +, Dean Chester wrote: > >>If a 100% CPU usage causes your computer to *over*h

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-02-01 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/01/2009 08:15 PM, Lee Glidewell wrote: [snip] You know what they say about people who assume. ;) I'll go stand in the corner now. With your nose pressed into the corner, touching that dust spot at eye level. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA "I am not surprised, for we live lon

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-02-01 Thread Lee Glidewell
On Sunday 01 February 2009 17:59:07 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/01/2009 02:49 PM, Lee Glidewell wrote: > > > > No, the issue is that manufactures advertise in *1000, while computers > > use > > Hard drive manufacturers, not RAM manufacturers. > > My beard's grey enough to remember when drive manufac

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-02-01 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/01/2009 02:49 PM, Lee Glidewell wrote: On Saturday 31 January 2009 21:01:14 David Fox wrote: It isn't that RAM has a FAT - those things only are present on filesystems. It is more likely that free's interpretation doesn't include kernel memory. Also, 4gb may be 4*1024*1024 not 4*1000*1000,

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-02-01 Thread Lee Glidewell
On Sunday 01 February 2009 17:04:38 Nuno Magalhães wrote: > > So a stick of memory advertised as 4 Gigabytes is going to present itself > > to your computer as 3.84 Gibibytes, roughly. > > Er... what's the standard in Debian? 1024, right? We're still being > logical here, right? Sorry, it's more l

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-02-01 Thread Nuno Magalhães
> So a stick of memory advertised as 4 Gigabytes is going to present itself to > your computer as 3.84 Gibibytes, roughly. Er... what's the standard in Debian? 1024, right? We're still being logical here, right? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-02-01 Thread Lee Glidewell
On Saturday 31 January 2009 21:01:14 David Fox wrote: > > It isn't that RAM has a FAT - those things only are present on > filesystems. It is more likely that free's interpretation doesn't > include kernel memory. Also, 4gb may be 4*1024*1024 not 4*1000*1000, > although that is more likely to be a

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-02-01 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/01/2009 10:04 AM, Mirko Scurk wrote: [snip] Could it be that 32-bit Debian can't access rest of memory? That would only be an issue if he could only see (I think) 2GB of his 4GB RAM. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA "I am not surprised, for we live long and are celebrated poope

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-02-01 Thread Mirko Scurk
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/31/2009 03:27 PM, Nuno MagalhĂŁes wrote: >>> Try to run `free' to get a more detailed break up (or even "cat >>> /proc/meminfo"). >> >> Running free -g on my system returns 3. I have 4. >> Running cat /proc/meminfo returns 4030668KB, which is 3.84GB according > > That's

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-01-31 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/31/2009 11:01 PM, David Fox wrote: [snip] It isn't that RAM has a FAT - those things only are present on filesystems. It is more likely that free's interpretation doesn't include kernel memory. Also, 4gb may be 4*1024*1024 not 4*1000*1000, although that is more likely to be a concern with

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-01-31 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/31/2009 03:27 PM, Nuno Magalhães wrote: Try to run `free' to get a more detailed break up (or even "cat /proc/meminfo"). Running free -g on my system returns 3. I have 4. Running cat /proc/meminfo returns 4030668KB, which is 3.84GB according That's 4030668*1024 = 4,127,404,032. to onl

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-01-31 Thread David Fox
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Nuno Magalhães wrote: > It seems as though free won't return the accurate size. I also have 4 gb of RAM (new Quadcore Intel) and 'free -g' reports '3' as well, I suspect this is underrounding to the extreme, and 'free -gb' returns a more realistic number: f...@n

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-01-31 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2009-01-31 02:52:34 +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 12:54:34AM +, Dean Chester wrote: > > I recently noticed that my CPU is at 100% when the temperature of > > my CPU is high. Taking a look at System Monitor i have also > > discovered that my swap space is being used wh

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-01-31 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/31/2009 06:00 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:04:19PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/30/2009 09:54 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 02:52:34AM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 12:54:34AM +, Dean Chester wrote: Hi I r

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-01-31 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:04:19PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/30/2009 09:54 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 02:52:34AM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: >>> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 12:54:34AM +, Dean Chester wrote: Hi I recently noticed that my CPU is at 100% w

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-01-31 Thread Nuno Magalhães
> Try to run `free' to get a more detailed break up (or even "cat > /proc/meminfo"). Running free -g on my system returns 3. I have 4. Running cat /proc/meminfo returns 4030668KB, which is 3.84GB according to onlineconversion, closer. Does RAM also have a sort of FAT? It seems as though free won'

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-01-31 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I recently noticed that my CPU is at 100% when the temperature of my CPU is > high. Taking a look at System Monitor i have also discovered that my swap > space is being used while only 13% of the RAM is, why isn't is using the > rest of the RAM. Has anyone got any ideas why? Unless you really ha

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-01-31 Thread Jochen Schulz
Dean Chester: > > I recently noticed that my CPU is at 100% when the temperature of my CPU is > high. The causality is the other way round: your CPU's temperature rises if the CPU is being used. That's totally expected. The question is whether the temperature is high enough to damage your CPU. J.

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-01-30 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/30/2009 09:54 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 02:52:34AM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 12:54:34AM +, Dean Chester wrote: Hi I recently noticed that my CPU is at 100% when the temperature of my CPU is high. Taking a look at System Monitor i hav

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-01-30 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 02:52:34AM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 12:54:34AM +, Dean Chester wrote: > > Hi > > I recently noticed that my CPU is at 100% when the temperature of my CPU is > > high. Taking a look at System Monitor i have also discovered that my swap > > spa

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-01-30 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 12:54:34AM +, Dean Chester wrote: > Hi > I recently noticed that my CPU is at 100% when the temperature of my CPU is > high. Taking a look at System Monitor i have also discovered that my swap > space is being used while only 13% of the RAM is, why isn't is using the > r

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-01-30 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 2009 January 30 18:54:34 Dean Chester wrote: >I recently noticed that my CPU is at 100% when the temperature of my CPU is >high. Taking a look at System Monitor i have also discovered that my swap >space is being used while only 13% of the RAM is, why isn't is using the >rest of the RAM.

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-01-30 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/30/2009 06:54 PM, Dean Chester wrote: Hi I recently noticed that my CPU is at 100% when the temperature of my CPU is high. Taking a look at System Monitor i have also discovered that my swap space is being used How much? 2%, or 90%? while only 13% of the RAM i

Use of Swap Space

2009-01-30 Thread Dean Chester
Hi I recently noticed that my CPU is at 100% when the temperature of my CPU is high. Taking a look at System Monitor i have also discovered that my swap space is being used while only 13% of the RAM is, why isn't is using the rest of the RAM. Has anyone got any ideas why? Thanks in Advance Dean.