Re: Upgrading thousands of boxes via APT

2007-06-18 Thread Ben
I strongly recommend going with a pull process. Bob I believe that I'm trying to create a push/pull method. The pull method (cron-apt) would be for minor updates/releases, but push would be used for special cases (critical rollouts, individual adjustments). In addition, the tool that I wa

Re: Upgrading thousands of boxes via APT

2007-06-18 Thread Bob Proulx
s. keeling wrote: > Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > s. keeling wrote: > > I am not sure to which you direction you are referring. Why would > i. Thousands of machines updating from repositories. > ii. Thousands of machines updating from one/some local mirror(s). Ah, yes, definitely u

Re: Upgrading thousands of boxes via APT

2007-06-18 Thread s. keeling
Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > s. keeling wrote: > > Ben wrote: > > > I was wondering if there's a Debian specific tool that could facilitate > > > managing thousands of machines via APT. I'm aware that many people would > > > recommend a sync option, where 1 machine serves as the master,

Re: Upgrading thousands of boxes via APT

2007-06-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > Maybe, dsh -distributed shell- is a good starting point? Using dsh illustrates a push-method. For a small number of machines pushing works and for when you are monitoring the process manually then pushing to machines work pretty well. But when setting up hundreds or th

Re: Upgrading thousands of boxes via APT

2007-06-18 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Maybe, dsh -distributed shell- is a good starting point? -- Regards, Jörg-Volker. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Upgrading thousands of boxes via APT

2007-06-17 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/17/07 22:08, Ben wrote: [snip] Fancy extra features may include links to startup VNC/SSH sessions to any given machine on the network, having machines call home via a small script or C app, report their mac address to an sql database, report diskspace, mac address, assett tags, deliver

Re: Upgrading thousands of boxes via APT

2007-06-17 Thread Ben
All of our machines are identical... er at least the variety of machines that we're planning to manage (thin-clients, servers). We do use tools like system imager to image the boxes before they are deployed in the field. I find apt appealing because it encourages our programmers to compile thei

Re: Upgrading thousands of boxes via APT

2007-06-17 Thread Bob Proulx
s. keeling wrote: > Ben wrote: > > I was wondering if there's a Debian specific tool that could facilitate > > managing thousands of machines via APT. I'm aware that many people would > > recommend a sync option, where 1 machine serves as the master, and the > > others sync off of that. Perh

Re: Upgrading thousands of boxes via APT

2007-06-17 Thread s. keeling
Ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I was wondering if there's a Debian specific tool that could facilitate > managing thousands of machines via APT. I'm aware that many people would > recommend a sync option, where 1 machine serves as the master, and the > others sync off of that. Perhaps that is

Re: Upgrading thousands of boxes via APT

2007-06-17 Thread Bob Proulx
Ben wrote: > I was wondering if there's a Debian specific tool that could facilitate > managing thousands of machines via APT. I'm aware that many people would > recommend a sync option, where 1 machine serves as the master, and the > others sync off of that. Perhaps that is the only reliable ap

Upgrading thousands of boxes via APT

2007-06-17 Thread Ben
Hi List, I was wondering if there's a Debian specific tool that could facilitate managing thousands of machines via APT. I'm aware that many people would recommend a sync option, where 1 machine serves as the master, and the others sync off of that. Perhaps that is the only reliable approach,