Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-14 Thread tomas
On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 06:56:07PM +0100, piorunz wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > Same here, I am on GMX mailbox too, received a warning recently that I > will be unsubscribed forcibly because my e-mail provider GMX rejected > spam Debian list is sending towards me. LOL. Maybe Debian e-mail server > could

Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-14 Thread piorunz
m our mail providers.) Do other experience the same ? (I would propose that list server shall please refrain from unsubscription threads if the mail in question gets a near-spam score in the Debian list system.) - Details: The list ser

Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-13 Thread Alex King
situation the automat of Debian Listmaster Team notified to unsubscribe me, which I perceive as a threat. Regardless of how Thomas has phrased it (subjective or observational,) Hanno can start the email acknowledging Thomas's point of view: I understand you perceive a threat, since you are bei

Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Karen Lewellen wrote: > As a side note..I got the message, assuming you mean the one indicating it > was from new service with account statement or some such. Yes. The message which was bounced by GMX is in the list archive as https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/08/msg00366.html Ob

Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-11 Thread Karen Lewellen
As a side note..I got the message, assuming you mean the one indicating it was from new service with account statement or some such. Naturally, I did not so much as open the item. seems like a broad list attempt, assuming this is the post you are referencing of course. Kare On Sun, 11 Aug 2

Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-11 Thread eben
On 8/11/24 17:11, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Normally GMX puts spam into a separate box where i can unjail it if i deem it not guilty. (Happens often enough.) * they do actually filter some extreme stuff out that I believe is required by law or somesuch. I never see it, so I don't know exactly

Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > You don't need to run a mailserver to do something similar. I simply > told my ISP (Zen) not to filter spam out of my mail. Normally GMX puts spam into a separate box where i can unjail it if i deem it not guilty. (Happens often enough.) > * they do actua

Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-11 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Aug 11, 2024 at 08:25:09PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > How do you then explain that it lasted 2 days until i got affected > exactly after i challenged the (potential) troll by stating: > "although i seem not to be worth to be targeted by our bounce assassin," > > Between the f

Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-11 Thread debian-user
Andy Smith wrote: > Personally what I do is silently discard spammy emails from known > list servers instead of rejecting them at SMTP time (which is > otherwise and usually desirable). Doing that does require running > your own mail server though, which almost no one does. You don't need to run

Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > debian-user is the only mailing list where i ever > > witnessed that a troll exploited the unscubscription habits to > > throw out multiple users. Andy Smith wrote: > I was here when those events occurred and that is not what happened. > [...] > It was just a bug in Debian's list

Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-11 Thread Andy Smith
On Sun, Aug 11, 2024 at 06:49:26PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Andy Smith wrote: > > What you have interpreted as "a threat" was simply a procedural > > warning that if your address continues to be undeliverable then you > > will be automatically unsubscribed. > > It is a threat You are assign

Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Andy Smith wrote: > What you have interpreted as "a threat" was simply a procedural > warning that if your address continues to be undeliverable then you > will be automatically unsubscribed. It is a threat, because debian-user is the only mailing list where i ever witnessed that a troll expl

Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-11 Thread Andy Smith
ian will disagree over spam score and as soon as you receive a successful delivery, the list software will reset its bounce counter for you. Which will already have happened. > (I would propose that list server shall please refrain from > unsubscription threads if the mail in question gets

Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-11 Thread Eike Lantzsch ZP5CGE / KY4PZ
e same ? > Yep, Thomas, same here, but it was just one bounce. vy 73 de Eike > (I would propose that list server shall please refrain from > unsubscription threads if the mail in question gets a near-spam score > in the Debian list system.) > > > -

Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
potential for a bounce troll, like we had a few years ago. (Whenever one of us posted to the list, the troll faked a bounce from our mail providers.) Do other experience the same ? (I would propose that list server shall please refrain from unsubscription threads if the mail in question gets a near

Re: Never receive an unsubscription confirmation e-mail

2024-07-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 05:39:30PM +0200, rudu wrote: > I wrote an e-mail to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with the > subject "unsubscribe" and sent it, expecting to receive a confirmation > e-mail ... which never comes ... > I also tried https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/unsubscribe,

Never receive an unsubscription confirmation e-mail

2024-07-26 Thread rudu
Hello, I'm just trying to suspend my subscription to Debian-user for a few weeks. So, I wrote an e-mail to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with the subject "unsubscribe" and sent it, expecting to receive a confirmation e-mail ... which never comes ... I also tried https://www.debian.org/Ma

Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-14 Thread gene heskett
On 8/14/23 12:24, zithro wrote: On 12 Aug 2023 04:39, gene heskett wrote: On 8/11/23 21:10, Larry Martell wrote: Larry, whom I've known for 20 years, is only echoing.   Are you really an engineer ?! No, I am not an EE, but I am a Certified Electronics Technician, a much rarer breed of cat

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-14 Thread davidson
On Mon, 14 Aug 2023 Bret Busby wrote: On 14/8/23 03:36, davidson wrote: On Sun, 13 Aug 2023 Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 12:12:49AM +, davidson wrote: The foregoing demonstration is meant to show how, using alpine's threaded mode, I minimise my irritation with threads

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-14 Thread davidson
On Sun, 13 Aug 2023 Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 4:33 PM davidson wrote: [...] Somebody else posts a red-herring link, to a mailing list concerning the linux distro called Alpine Linux. [3] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/08/msg00355.html Then Greg points out, in re

Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-14 Thread zithro
On 12 Aug 2023 04:39, gene heskett wrote: On 8/11/23 21:10, Larry Martell wrote: Larry, whom I've known for 20 years, is only echoing. Are you really an engineer ?! No, I am not an EE, but I am a Certified Electronics Technician, a much rarer breed of cat than your run of the mill EE.  W

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/8/23 03:36, davidson wrote: On Sun, 13 Aug 2023 Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 12:12:49AM +, davidson wrote: The foregoing demonstration is meant to show how, using alpine's threaded mode, I minimise my irritation with threads that I find irrelevant to my interests

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-13 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 4:33 PM davidson wrote: > [...] > Somebody else posts a red-herring link, to a mailing list concerning > the linux distro called Alpine Linux. > [3] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/08/msg00355.html > > Then Greg points out, in reply to the red-herring poster, tha

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-13 Thread davidson
On Sun, 13 Aug 2023 Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 12:12:49AM +, davidson wrote: >> The foregoing demonstration is meant to show how, using alpine's >> threaded mode, I minimise my irritation with threads that I find >> irrelevant to my interests > > Unfortunately no mat

Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-13 Thread Curt
On 2023-08-12, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > In the US, the banks are laxed. Banks claim they don't want to lose > customers with inconveniences. I understand things are different from > Europe. It's a two-edged sword, though: I had to purchase a new smart phone in order to continue banking with one

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-12 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 12:12:49AM +, davidson wrote: > The foregoing demonstration is meant to show how, using alpine's > threaded mode, I minimise my irritation with threads that I find > irrelevant to my interests Unfortunately no matter how advanced your MUA is, it doesn't help aga

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-12 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 10:18 AM Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > [...] > No one of us is perfect: the temptation to just add a bit more when you > are irritated or something is wrong on the internet can be very strong. > > Obligatory xkcd cartoon: https://xkcd.com/386 Yeah, some threads refuse to die.

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-12 Thread davidson
On Sun, 13 Aug 2023 davidson wrote: > On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 Bret Busby wrote: > [snip] >> Hello. >> >> Could the List administrators please shut down both this thread and the >> "unubscribe" thread? > > In alpine, I have a filter rule that moves all debian-user messages > from my inbox to a dedicat

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-12 Thread davidson
On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 Bret Busby wrote: [snip] Hello. Could the List administrators please shut down both this thread and the "unubscribe" thread? In alpine, I have a filter rule that moves all debian-user messages from my inbox to a dedicated folder. Here is a sample of what I see in alpine,

Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-12 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 11:17 PM David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 11 Aug 2023 at 17:39:28 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > On 8/11/23 14:25, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 10:59:14AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > The recommended procedure usually w

Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-12 Thread gene heskett
On 8/12/23 12:18, Curt wrote: On 2023-08-12, Larry Martell wrote: Larry didn't write the next quote, he was echoing the OP which I snipped. Who is a random person to you? You're new to this list, so you have no clue who is who here. Larry did write this: Gene may be many things, bu

Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
d you get a generic "how to use this service" message. See below. On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 04:32:00PM +, debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote: > General info > ---- > Subscription/unsubscription/info requests should al

Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-12 Thread Curt
On 2023-08-12, Larry Martell wrote: > > > Who is a random person to you? You're new to this list, so you have > no clue > who is who here. > Gene may be many things, but he's not random. He's *old*, though, so I think certain breaks are to be given on that account. But what I want to know is:

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-12 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 08:53:43AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > Hello. > > Could the List administrators please shut down both this thread and the > "unubscribe" thread? > Sadly, this list isn't fully moderated: the only way to stop any particular thread is not to contribute to it. I spend some t

Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-11 Thread tomas
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 05:39:28PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 8/11/23 14:25, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 10:59:14AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > The recommended procedure usually works, unless the user is now using a > > > different browser or ha

Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-11 Thread David Wright
On Fri 11 Aug 2023 at 17:39:28 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On 8/11/23 14:25, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 10:59:14AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > The recommended procedure usually works, unless the user is now using a > > > different browser or has

Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-11 Thread gene heskett
On 8/11/23 21:10, Larry Martell wrote: Larry, whom I've known for 20 years, is only echoing. Are you really an engineer ?! No, I am not an EE, but I am a Certified Electronics Technician, a much rarer breed of cat than your run of the mill EE. We teach EE's how to get their hands dirty i

Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-11 Thread Larry Martell
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 6:03 PM zithro wrote: > On 11 Aug 2023 23:39, gene heskett wrote: > > No its not Tomas, everytime ff issues an update, I have to go thru all > > the bs of proving I am me to my bank, and its been that way for at least > > a decade. > > With all due respect, can you stop sp

List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-11 Thread Bret Busby
On 12/8/23 08:08, zithro wrote: On 11 Aug 2023 23:39, gene heskett wrote: No its not Tomas, everytime ff issues an update, I have to go thru all the bs of proving I am me to my bank, and its been that way for at least a decade. With all due respect, can you stop spreading misinformation to th

Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-11 Thread zithro
On 11 Aug 2023 23:39, gene heskett wrote: No its not Tomas, everytime ff issues an update, I have to go thru all the bs of proving I am me to my bank, and its been that way for at least a decade. With all due respect, can you stop spreading misinformation to this list ? Not only this has nothi

Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-11 Thread Bret Busby
On 12/8/23 06:45, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 05:39:28PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 8/11/23 14:25, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 10:59:14AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: [...] The recommended procedure usually works, unless the user is now using a different

Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 05:39:28PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 8/11/23 14:25, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 10:59:14AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > The recommended procedure usually works, unless the user is now using a > > > different browser or ha

Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-11 Thread gene heskett
d the mailing list software an unsubscription request for a specific mail address: either by sending a mail or by performing a HTTP GET on a specific URL (aka "clicking on a link") 2. the mailing list software sends a mail (containing a token) to confirm the unsubscription r

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