Re: Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) firmware

2011-09-23 Thread Weaver
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:49:01 +0200 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Freitag, 23. September 2011 schrieb Alex: > > Any comments on the "Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) > > firmware" and its ability to preclude booting from alternative > > operating

Re: Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) firmware

2011-09-23 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 23. September 2011 schrieb Weaver: > On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:04:51 +1000 > > Scott Ferguson wrote: > > On 23/09/11 09:01, Alex wrote: [...] > > Check out Coreboot - and research before buying a device/motherboard. > > That's one way, but new tech is getting to the stage where it won't

Re: Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) firmware

2011-09-23 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Chris! Please avoid TUFO. Am Freitag, 23. September 2011 schrieb chris: > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Scott Ferguson > > > > Check out Coreboot - and research before buying a device/motherboard. > > > but does coreboot support uefi? Sometimes I think: Better not. ;) I twice tried hal

Re: Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) firmware

2011-09-23 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 23. September 2011 schrieb Alex: > Any comments on the "Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) > firmware" and its ability to preclude booting from alternative > operating systems such as Linux, BSD etc., would be greatly > appreciated, as per article enti

Re: Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) firmware

2011-09-23 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 23. September 2011 schrieb Alex: > Any comments on the "Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) > firmware" and its ability to preclude booting from alternative > operating systems such as Linux, BSD etc., would be greatly > appreciated, as per article enti

Re: Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) firmware

2011-09-23 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:31 AM, chris wrote: > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Tom H wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Camaleón wrote: >>> On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:18:07 +1000, Alex wrote: >>> >>>> Any comments on the "Unified Extensible Firm

Re: Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) firmware

2011-09-23 Thread John Foster
. > > :) > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Tom H wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Camaleón wrote: >> > On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:18:07 +1000, Alex wrote: >> > >> >> Any comments on the "Unified Extensible Firmware Inter

Re: Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) firmware

2011-09-23 Thread chris
Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Camaleón wrote: > > On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:18:07 +1000, Alex wrote: > > > >> Any comments on the "Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) > >> firmware" and its ability to preclude booting from alternative operating > >

Re: Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) firmware

2011-09-23 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:18:07 +1000, Alex wrote: > >> Any comments on the "Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) >> firmware" and its ability to preclude booting from alternative operating >> systems

Re: Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) firmware

2011-09-23 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:18:07 +1000, Alex wrote: > Any comments on the "Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) > firmware" and its ability to preclude booting from alternative operating > systems such as Linux, BSD etc., would be greatly appreciated, as per > artic

Re: Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) firmware

2011-09-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/09/11 18:24, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Alex: > >> Any comments on the "Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) >> firmware" and its ability to preclude booting from alternative >> operating systems such as Linux, BSD etc., would be greatly >&

Re: Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) firmware

2011-09-23 Thread Florian Weimer
* Alex: > Any comments on the "Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) > firmware" and its ability to preclude booting from alternative > operating systems such as Linux, BSD etc., would be greatly > appreciated, as per article entitled "Windows 8 secure boot

Re: Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) firmware

2011-09-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/09/11 15:50, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2011-09-23 07:15 +0200, Weaver wrote: > >> That's one way, but new tech is getting to the stage where it won't >> work off a standard BIOS. You need the UEFI base to handle such things >> as the new 4 TB drives from Seagate and Hitachi now. > > No, you

Re: Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) firmware

2011-09-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/09/11 15:15, Weaver wrote: > On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:04:51 +1000 > Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> On 23/09/11 09:01, Alex wrote: >>> empire' did actually achieve that draconian, monopolistic goal. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Alex >>> >>> >> Check out Coreboot - and research before buying a device/

Re: Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) firmware

2011-09-23 Thread Weaver
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 07:50:37 +0200 Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2011-09-23 07:15 +0200, Weaver wrote: > > > That's one way, but new tech is getting to the stage where it won't > > work off a standard BIOS. You need the UEFI base to handle such > > things as the new 4 TB drives from Seagate and Hitac

Re: Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) firmware

2011-09-22 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2011-09-23 07:15 +0200, Weaver wrote: > That's one way, but new tech is getting to the stage where it won't > work off a standard BIOS. You need the UEFI base to handle such things > as the new 4 TB drives from Seagate and Hitachi now. No, you don't. You need GPT, which works fine with a trad

Re: Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) firmware

2011-09-22 Thread Weaver
These are the drives I was talking about. Hitachi have put out two the same size. Careful which one of those you buy. One has a far slower spindle speed than the other. Seagate has already advertised a 4 TB internal drive on its way. That's where the UEFI will come into it's own. But with external

Re: Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) firmware

2011-09-22 Thread Weaver
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:04:51 +1000 Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 23/09/11 09:01, Alex wrote: > > Thanks for the quick reply, John. > > > > It is a long time ago that I hacked any BIOS, and then it was only > > with tools made available by the manufacturer to boot the machine > > in the first place,

Re: Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) firmware

2011-09-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/09/11 12:05, chris wrote: > but does coreboot support uefi? A. Coreboot is not a commitment (you'd don't have to give up your BIOS/UEFI. B. Maybe. I haven't had time to read the articles but this might be imformative:- http://blogs.coreboot.org/blog/category/uefi/ > Cheers Ref:- http:/

Re: Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) firmware

2011-09-22 Thread chris
but does coreboot support uefi? On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Scott Ferguson < prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 23/09/11 09:01, Alex wrote: > > Thanks for the quick reply, John. > > > > It is a long time ago that I hacked any BIOS, and then it was only with > > tools made available

Re: Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) firmware

2011-09-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/09/11 09:01, Alex wrote: > Thanks for the quick reply, John. > > It is a long time ago that I hacked any BIOS, and then it was only with > tools made available by the manufacturer to boot the machine in the > first place, that I have forgotten / no knowledge of how this may be > achieved. >

Re: Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) firmware

2011-09-22 Thread Alex
Thanks for the quick reply, John. It is a long time ago that I hacked any BIOS, and then it was only with tools made available by the manufacturer to boot the machine in the first place, that I have forgotten / no knowledge of how this may be achieved. In any case, I was always under the imp

Re: Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) firmware

2011-09-22 Thread John Foster
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Alex wrote: > Any comments on the "Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) firmware" > and its ability to preclude booting from alternative operating systems such > as Linux, BSD etc., would be greatly appreciated, as per article entitled

Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) firmware

2011-09-22 Thread Alex
Any comments on the "Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) firmware" and its ability to preclude booting from alternative operating systems such as Linux, BSD etc., would be greatly appreciated, as per article entitled "Windows 8 secure boot would 'excl