Re: Unattended Upgrades Ran Anyway.

2023-12-10 Thread Max Nikulin
On 11/12/2023 06:12, Charles Curley wrote: Sorry. I had already stopped the apt-daily-upgrade.timer, which triggers the unattended upgrade service. (The couldn't give them similar names to act as a mnemonic?) This refers to disabling the unattended upgrade service. I have not tested it, but fr

Re: Unattended Upgrades Ran Anyway.

2023-12-10 Thread songbird
Dan Ritter wrote: > Stefan Monnier wrote: >> On my trusty Thinkpad X30, upgrades are sufficiently taxing that having >> them run unexpectedly can be a real problem, so I tried to prevent >> unattended upgrades a few months ago. > > > I have always preferred the apticron package, which by default >

Re: Unattended Upgrades Ran Anyway.

2023-12-10 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 17:27:39 -0500 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > Thanks. I will disable as well. > > Disable *what*? Disabling a .service unit which is triggered by a > timer event isn't going to stop it from running. Sorry. I had already stopped the apt-daily-upgrade.timer, which triggers t

Re: Unattended Upgrades Ran Anyway.

2023-12-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 02:10:43PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 14:51:48 -0600 > David Wright wrote: > > > I think it might be worth googling and reading "three levels of off" > > (with the quotes). > > > > 1. You can stop a service. That simply terminates the running > >

Re: Unattended Upgrades Ran Anyway.

2023-12-10 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 14:51:48 -0600 David Wright wrote: > I think it might be worth googling and reading "three levels of off" > (with the quotes). > > 1. You can stop a service. That simply terminates the running > instance of the service and does little else. If due to some form > o

Re: Unattended Upgrades Ran Anyway.

2023-12-10 Thread Dan Ritter
Stefan Monnier wrote: > On my trusty Thinkpad X30, upgrades are sufficiently taxing that having > them run unexpectedly can be a real problem, so I tried to prevent > unattended upgrades a few months ago. I have always preferred the apticron package, which by default updates daily and sends an e

Re: Unattended Upgrades Ran Anyway.

2023-12-10 Thread David Wright
On Sun 10 Dec 2023 at 13:39:50 (-0700), Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 14:17:36 -0600 > David Wright wrote: > > > Why is the service loaded, enabled and enabled then? Don't you need > > to disable or mask it? Presumably it sits there, dead, all day > > normally, and pops up at an app

Re: Unattended Upgrades Ran Anyway.

2023-12-10 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 14:17:36 -0600 David Wright wrote: > Why is the service loaded, enabled and enabled then? Don't you need > to disable or mask it? Presumably it sits there, dead, all day > normally, and pops up at an appropriate time. As I understand things, start and stop are for immediate c

Re: Unattended Upgrades Ran Anyway.

2023-12-10 Thread David Wright
On Sun 10 Dec 2023 at 11:00:37 (-0700), Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 16:11:44 + > Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net> wrote: > > > On 10 Dec 2023 08:49 -0700, from charlescur...@charlescurley.com > > (Charles Curley): [...] > > > > Exactly how did you "shut down" unatte

Re: Unattended Upgrades Ran Anyway.

2023-12-10 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 23:59:04 +0700 Max Nikulin wrote: > On 10/12/2023 22:49, Charles Curley wrote: > [...] > > systemctl status apt-daily-upgrade.timer > root@issola:~# systemctl status apt-daily-upgrade.timer ● apt-daily-upgrade.timer - Daily apt upgrade and clean activities Loaded: l

Re: Unattended Upgrades Ran Anyway.

2023-12-10 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 16:11:44 + Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net> wrote: > On 10 Dec 2023 08:49 -0700, from charlescur...@charlescurley.com > (Charles Curley): [...] > > Exactly how did you "shut down" unattended-upgrades? > root@chaffee:/etc/dhcp# systemctl stop unattended-upgrade

Re: Unattended Upgrades Ran Anyway.

2023-12-10 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I double checked this morning. All machines had unattended upgrades > shut off as of yesterday evening, well before the > unattended-uogrades ran. On my trusty Thinkpad X30, upgrades are sufficiently taxing that having them run unexpectedly can be a real problem, so I tried to prevent unattende

Re: Unattended Upgrades Ran Anyway.

2023-12-10 Thread Max Nikulin
On 10/12/2023 22:49, Charles Curley wrote: root@issola:/var# systemctl status unattended-upgrades.service systemctl status apt-daily-upgrade.timer

Re: Unattended Upgrades Ran Anyway.

2023-12-10 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 10 Dec 2023 08:49 -0700, from charlescur...@charlescurley.com (Charles Curley): > Due to the recent traffic about the defective kernel in Bookworm > (12.3), I shut down unattended-upgrades on all my machines (Bookworm > and Bullseye). To my surprise, three of them ran unattended-upgrades > anyw

Unattended Upgrades Ran Anyway.

2023-12-10 Thread Charles Curley
Due to the recent traffic about the defective kernel in Bookworm (12.3), I shut down unattended-upgrades on all my machines (Bookworm and Bullseye). To my surprise, three of them ran unattended-upgrades anyway. One of them is Bullseye, so it was a harmless error. But still…. The two Bookworm mach