Re: Ubuntu's unstable vs Debian unstable

2005-12-02 Thread William Ballard
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 09:07:51PM -0500, David A. Cobb wrote: > I haven't read the whole thread, so please pardon me if I repeat something. > > One area that causes many conflicts has Ubuntu "ahead" of Debian. > Ubuntu is stabilized on Python 2.4, whereas Debian packages all demand > <2.4 (Pyt

Re: Ubuntu's unstable vs Debian unstable

2005-12-01 Thread David A. Cobb
I haven't read the whole thread, so please pardon me if I repeat something. One area that causes many conflicts has Ubuntu "ahead" of Debian.  Ubuntu is stabilized on Python 2.4, whereas Debian packages all demand <2.4 (Python 2.3 is "official").  The problem is exacerbated because 'apt' int

Re: Ubuntu's unstable vs Debian unstable

2005-12-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Derek Broughton wrote: > Why is a legitimate question a troll? Sid & Dapper _are_ both routinely > "testy" (I prefer not to say "broken" - it's not as if it shouldn't be > expected). Asking which is less broken may be naive but there's no reason > to assume it's malicious. And asking of only _on

Re: Ubuntu's unstable vs Debian unstable

2005-12-01 Thread Derek Broughton
Steve Lamb wrote: > Michael Beattie wrote: >> That may be so, but why are you using dapper instead of breezy anyway? > > More important questions are: > > a: why is he crossposting what looks to be a troll to both mailing lists > and... > > b: why are people replying to what looks like a tr

Re: Ubuntu's unstable vs Debian unstable

2005-12-01 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: I'm not. I like Debian 'testing' except when it has missing and broken packages (like it does now) so I switched to Debian 'unstable'. This is very recent and so far/therefore I haven't experienced much trouble. I was wondering about an alternative switch to Dapper 'un

Re: Ubuntu's unstable vs Debian unstable

2005-11-30 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On 11/30/05, Michael Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/30/05, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > >From what I read on the lists it seems that Ubuntu's unstable is > > generally more broken than Debian's, making me feel safer using Sid. > > Could anyone confirm t

Re: Ubuntu's unstable vs Debian unstable

2005-11-30 Thread Steve Lamb
Michael Beattie wrote: > That may be so, but why are you using dapper instead of breezy anyway? More important questions are: a: why is he crossposting what looks to be a troll to both mailing lists and... b: why are people replying to what looks like a troll to both mailing lists? :) --

Re: Ubuntu's unstable vs Debian unstable

2005-11-30 Thread Derek Broughton
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: >>From what I read on the lists it seems that Ubuntu's unstable is > generally more broken than Debian's, making me feel safer using Sid. > Could anyone confirm this. Not categorically, since I no longer use Sid, but Dapper's not seriously broken. It upgrades fine, bu

Re: Ubuntu's unstable vs Debian unstable

2005-11-30 Thread Michael Beattie
On 11/30/05, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > >From what I read on the lists it seems that Ubuntu's unstable is > generally more broken than Debian's, making me feel safer using Sid. > Could anyone confirm this. > Thanks... > That may be so, but why are you using dapper i

Re: Ubuntu's unstable vs Debian unstable

2005-11-30 Thread Shot - Piotr Szotkowski
Hello. Tshepang Lekhonkhobe: > From what I read on the lists it seems that Ubuntu's > unstable is generally more broken than Debian's It depends. Ubuntu has a 6 month release cycle, and early in the cycle the 'unstable' (currently - Dapper) is generally broken, while near the end of the cycle it

Ubuntu's unstable vs Debian unstable

2005-11-30 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hello, >From what I read on the lists it seems that Ubuntu's unstable is generally more broken than Debian's, making me feel safer using Sid. Could anyone confirm this. Thanks...