Re: UML Modeling w/o Rational Rose

2002-06-05 Thread Gilbert Laycock
Tommi Komulainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm not sure if you can use free software to display Rose models as is. > You could, however, open the model in Rose and take a screenshot :) > And to open the model in Rose you can get an evaluation license (valid > for 30 days, or two weeks, or some

Re: OT: UML (Re: UML Modeling w/o Rational Rose)

2002-06-04 Thread prover
From: "Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Oleg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Debian Users" Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:02 AM Subject: Re: OT: UML (Re: UML Modeling w/o Rational Rose) > Oleg escreveu: > > > > What

Re: OT: UML (Re: UML Modeling w/o Rational Rose)

2002-06-04 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
Oleg escreveu: What do you get from UML, that you don't get from class definitions (in header files) ? UML has a much bigger scope, since it tries to account for all the design phase, including data modelling. Unfortunately it's a fundamentally flawed approach, as shown in http://dbdebu

Re: UML Modeling w/o Rational Rose

2002-06-03 Thread Tommi Komulainen
On 2002-06-03 12:34 +, Florentin Ionescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I found dia to be _much_ easier and practical to use, as opposed to Rational - > don't miss dia2code which does a decent job. > > There is another tool called ToghetherJ - but AFAIK and used them, both > Rational > or Toghe

Re: UML Modeling w/o Rational Rose

2002-06-03 Thread Tommi Komulainen
On 2002-06-03 11:40 +, Brian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are > > there some other UML tools I've missed? (No, dia or kuml don't count.) > > > What is wrong with dia? Is it not compatible to Rational? Is it > possible to write a converter between Rational and dia or > whatever-your-fav

Re: UML Modeling w/o Rational Rose

2002-06-03 Thread Matijs van Zuijlen
On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 02:31:56PM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote: > On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 11:40:57AM -0700, Brian Rose wrote: > > What is wrong with dia? Is it not compatible to Rational? > > I hobble along with dia. While I can't comment on its compatibility > with Rational Rose, it does have s

Re: UML Modeling w/o Rational Rose

2002-06-03 Thread Florentin Ionescu
wrote : » Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 21:01:23 +0300 » From: Tommi Komulainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> » To: debian-user@lists.debian.org » Subject: Re: UML Modeling w/o Rational Rose » » On 2002-06-03 12:45 +, Elizabeth Barham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: » > Hi Everyone, » > » > I&#

Re: OT: UML (Re: UML Modeling w/o Rational Rose)

2002-06-03 Thread Tommi Komulainen
On 2002-06-03 14:22 +, Oleg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 03 June 2002 02:01 pm, Tommi Komulainen wrote: > > > On the topic of free UML modeling software, I've tried ArgoUML and > > Poseidon, but unfortunately they aren't quite comparable to Rose. Are > > there some other UML tools I

Re: UML Modeling w/o Rational Rose

2002-06-03 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 11:40:57AM -0700, Brian Rose wrote: > What is wrong with dia? Is it not compatible to Rational? I hobble along with dia. While I can't comment on its compatibility with Rational Rose, it does have some definite problems in the UML template. Two that spring to mind (as of

Re: UML Modeling w/o Rational Rose

2002-06-03 Thread Brian Rose
Are > there some other UML tools I've missed? (No, dia or kuml don't count.) > What is wrong with dia? Is it not compatible to Rational? Is it possible to write a converter between Rational and dia or whatever-your-favourite-is or an XML file? (Not sure what format dia or Rational are.) Brian

OT: UML (Re: UML Modeling w/o Rational Rose)

2002-06-03 Thread Oleg
On Monday 03 June 2002 02:01 pm, Tommi Komulainen wrote: > On the topic of free UML modeling software, I've tried ArgoUML and > Poseidon, but unfortunately they aren't quite comparable to Rose. Are > there some other UML tools I've missed? (No, dia or kuml don't count.) What do you get from UML

Re: UML Modeling w/o Rational Rose

2002-06-03 Thread Tommi Komulainen
On 2002-06-03 12:45 +, Elizabeth Barham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I'd like to be able to view a UML Model that is available for download > in Rational Rose Format from: > > > > Rational Rose is a very expensive

UML Modeling w/o Rational Rose

2002-06-03 Thread Elizabeth Barham
Hi Everyone, I'd like to be able to view a UML Model that is available for download in Rational Rose Format from: Rational Rose is a very expensive software product and I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this problem (that