Re: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-04 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 04/01/14 22:20, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 01 ian 14, 09:06:48, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> On Wednesday 01 January 2014 01:31:00 Scott Ferguson wrote: >>> On 01/01/14 11:56, Charlie wrote: So can someone please tell me how I might do windows safe mode equivalent? >>> >>> There isn't an e

Re: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-04 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 01 ian 14, 09:06:48, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 01 January 2014 01:31:00 Scott Ferguson wrote: > > On 01/01/14 11:56, Charlie wrote: > > > So can someone please tell me how I might do windows safe mode > > > equivalent? > > > > There isn't an equivalent mode with Linux. Sorry. > > My

Re: [OT] non technical Q: bad or worse. Was: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jan 01, 2014 at 06:02:48PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 01 January 2014 17:49:59 Brian wrote: > > If 'less worse' is a colloquialism it has no charm or character to > > lift it out of the lazy speaking category. > > :-) Ain't that the truth! :-) (Sorry.) -- "If you're not car

Re: [OT] non technical Q: bad or worse. Was: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-02 Thread Tom Furie
On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 12:22:15PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > Better presupposes good. If something doesn't approach good, e.g. > someone misses the target by 10 metres are they "better" than the person > who missed by 20 metres? Or "less worse". To call the 10 miss "better" > is a version of

Re: [OT] non technical Q: bad or worse. Was: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 02/01/14 13:46, John Hasler wrote: > Scott Ferguson writes: >> Can someone nitpick if they don't have lice?. > > One does not pick one's own nits. > What sort of people volunteer for the job? Kind regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: [OT] non technical Q: bad or worse. Was: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread John Hasler
Scott Ferguson writes: > Can someone nitpick if they don't have lice?. One does not pick one's own nits. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debi

Re: [OT] non technical Q: bad or worse. Was: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 02/01/14 05:22, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2014-01-01 at 18:02 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> On Wednesday 01 January 2014 17:49:59 Brian wrote: >>> If 'less worse' is a colloquialism it has no charm or character to >>> lift it out of the lazy speaking category. >> >> :-) >> >> Lisi > > Wow, su

Re: [OT] non technical Q: bad or worse. Was: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 Jan 2014 at 00:26:17 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > There for sure are more philosophically reasoned "opuses" (ouch, I > learned Latin and to use "opuses" for the plural is a PITA for me ;) ... Use 'opera' for the latin plural of 'opus'; nobody will think the worse (or even the less worst

Re: [OT] non technical Q: bad or worse. Was: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Wednesday 01 January 2014 17:59:21 Lisi Reisz wrote: > Previously sent in error to OP. Sorry, Eike. :-( One day I shall > succeed in making my recalcitrant fingers type "l" rather than click > on anything. :-( Oh don't worry - I'm not finnicky - actually I'm not even finnish. Or is that "finic

Re: [OT] non technical Q: bad or worse. Was: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-01-02 at 00:26 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I never ever will watch a modern Hollywood movie Is "Crank" a modern Hollywood movie? If so, than there might be some exceptions (for my taste). However, the nice about "Crank" isn't philosophy, it simply is a film with a consistent action p

Re: [OT] non technical Q: bad or worse. Was: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-01-01 at 23:04 +, Brian wrote: > On Wed 01 Jan 2014 at 22:04:15 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Thu, 2014-01-02 at 07:53 +1100, Charlie wrote: > > > If people understand the meaning, then that's communication. > > > > This is what is said by the Spencer Tracy film :). > > Sp

Re: [OT] non technical Q: bad or worse. Was: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread Brian
On Wed 01 Jan 2014 at 22:04:15 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2014-01-02 at 07:53 +1100, Charlie wrote: > > If people understand the meaning, then that's communication. > > This is what is said by the Spencer Tracy film :). Spenser Tracey rules! He had the knowse. (Work that out). -- T

Re: [OT] non technical Q: bad or worse. Was: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 Jan 2014 at 07:53:11 +1100, Charlie wrote: > On Wed, 1 Jan 2014 18:42:42 + Brian sent: > > > The context and the subtlety (and maybe as said, the age range) are > > all important. But advocates of 'less worse' are presumably relaxed > > with 'less iller' and 'less wealthier'. > > T

Re: [OT] non technical Q: bad or worse. Was: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-01-02 at 07:53 +1100, Charlie wrote: > If people understand the meaning, then that's communication. This is what is said by the Spencer Tracy film :). > the only silly question is the one not asked. Yesno. If you are an expert and you don't know something, it's better to ask, while

Re: [OT] non technical Q: bad or worse. Was: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread Charlie
On Wed, 1 Jan 2014 18:42:42 + Brian sent: > The context and the subtlety (and maybe as said, the age range) are > all important. But advocates of 'less worse' are presumably relaxed > with 'less iller' and 'less wealthier'. That goes on further, who is iller? Less ill than another who is simi

Re: [OT] non technical Q: bad or worse. Was: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-01-01 at 19:08 +, Brian wrote: > On Wed 01 Jan 2014 at 19:22:24 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > However, please watch "Inherit the Wind" with Spencer Tracy. I try to > > translate the German version from memory to English: "We should use > > every word we know, since there are much

Re: [OT] non technical Q: bad or worse. Was: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread John Hasler
Ed Jabbour writes: > What I find particularly galling is "I could care less" when what is > meant is "I couldn't care less." That was originally meant to be ironic, though most who say it now don't know what irony is. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: [OT] non technical Q: bad or worse. Was: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Ed Jabbour wrote: On Wednesday, January 01, 2014 01:27:09 PM Doug wrote: > I think it's useless to try and teach anybody English on the 'net > here. I've been trying to correct "loose" for "lose" for years > with no result. What I find particularly galling is "I could care less" when what is

Re: [OT] non technical Q: bad or worse. Was: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread Brian
On Wed 01 Jan 2014 at 13:27:09 -0500, Doug wrote: > I think it's useless to try and teach anybody English on the 'net > here. I've been trying to correct "loose" for "lose" for years > with no result. This sub-thread may be OT, but how did we get on to discussing 'women'? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, em

Re: [OT] non technical Q: bad or worse. Was: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread Brian
On Wed 01 Jan 2014 at 19:22:24 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2014-01-01 at 18:02 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Wednesday 01 January 2014 17:49:59 Brian wrote: > > > If 'less worse' is a colloquialism it has no charm or character to > > > lift it out of the lazy speaking category. > > > >

Re: [OT] non technical Q: bad or worse. Was: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread Ed Jabbour
On Wednesday, January 01, 2014 01:27:09 PM Doug wrote: > I think it's useless to try and teach anybody English on the 'net > here. I've been trying to correct "loose" for "lose" for years > with no result. What I find particularly galling is "I could care less" when what is meant is "I couldn't

Re: [OT] non technical Q: bad or worse. Was: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread Brian
On Wed 01 Jan 2014 at 17:59:21 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > I am a native English speaker living in England. I too have never > heard "less worse" and the expression jarred. But there are four > possibilities: 1) It is an expression that is age dependant > (like "cool" or "wicked" meaning "goo

Re: [OT] non technical Q: bad or worse. Was: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread Doug
On 01/01/2014 12:49 PM, Brian wrote: [OT indeed. But it's New Year's day here, so what the hell! A bit of frivolity is good for the soul]. On Wed 01 Jan 2014 at 09:24:36 -0300, Eike Lantzsch wrote: I found "less worse" somewhat funny. Is that part of modern English? Bad grammar always sounds

Re: [OT] non technical Q: bad or worse. Was: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-01-01 at 18:02 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 01 January 2014 17:49:59 Brian wrote: > > If 'less worse' is a colloquialism it has no charm or character to > > lift it out of the lazy speaking category. > > :-) > > Lisi Wow, super-irrelevant to send a smiley as a comment to

Re: [OT] non technical Q: bad or worse. Was: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 01 January 2014 17:49:59 Brian wrote: > If 'less worse' is a colloquialism it has no charm or character to > lift it out of the lazy speaking category. :-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact list

Re: [OT] non technical Q: bad or worse. Was: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread Lisi Reisz
Previously sent in error to OP. Sorry, Eike. :-( One day I shall succeed in making my recalcitrant fingers type "l" rather than click on anything. :-( On Wednesday 01 January 2014 12:24:36 Eike Lantzsch wrote: > Sorry I got this honest question 'cause I'm not a native English > speaker and wha

Re: [OT] non technical Q: bad or worse. Was: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread Brian
[OT indeed. But it's New Year's day here, so what the hell! A bit of frivolity is good for the soul]. On Wed 01 Jan 2014 at 09:24:36 -0300, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > I found "less worse" somewhat funny. Is that part of modern English? Bad grammar always sounds (or should sound) that way. Part of mo

Re: [OT] non technical Q: bad or worse. Was: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 1/1/2014 7:24 AM, Eike Lantzsch wrote: On Wednesday 01 January 2014 22:31:58 Charlie wrote: On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 18:59:36 +1100 Scott Ferguson sent: Less worse. You meant less worse. :) Yes, less worse. Sorry I got this honest question 'cause I'm not a native English speaker and what

Re: [OT] non technical Q: bad or worse. Was: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 9:24 PM, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > On Wednesday 01 January 2014 22:31:58 Charlie wrote: >> On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 18:59:36 +1100 Scott Ferguson sent: >> >> >> >> > Less worse. You meant less worse. :) >> >> >> >> Yes, less worse. >> > Sorry I got this honest question 'cause I'm

[OT] non technical Q: bad or worse. Was: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Wednesday 01 January 2014 22:31:58 Charlie wrote: > On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 18:59:36 +1100 Scott Ferguson sent: > > > > > Less worse. You meant less worse. :) > > > > Yes, less worse. > Sorry I got this honest question 'cause I'm not a native English speaker and what is worse: I don't live i

Re: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread Charlie
On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 18:59:36 +1100 Scott Ferguson sent: > Less worse. You meant less worse. :) Yes, less worse. Thank you everyone for your suggestions and thank you Scott for your excellent help. It's much appreciated. Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524

Re: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 01/01/14 14:56, Charlie wrote: >> On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 14:03:45 +1100 Scott Ferguson sent: >> >>> On 01/01/14 13:07, Charlie wrote: On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 12:31:00 +1100 Scott Ferguson sent: [...] > You can also speed things up consid

Re: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 01 January 2014 01:31:00 Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 01/01/14 11:56, Charlie wrote: > > So can someone please tell me how I might do windows safe mode > > equivalent? > > There isn't an equivalent mode with Linux. Sorry. My knowledge of Windows is scarcely encyclopaedic, but is Windows

Re: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2014-01-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 01/01/14 18:22, Charlie wrote: > On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 15:21:24 +1100 Scott Ferguson sent: > > > >> Don't know if you check here, but your ISP was having some recent >> problems:- https://www.skymesh.net.au/advisories/ > > Thanks again Scott. > > I think that my ISP is a lot of the problem, b

Re: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2013-12-31 Thread Charlie
On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 15:21:24 +1100 Scott Ferguson sent: > Don't know if you check here, but your ISP was having some recent > problems:- https://www.skymesh.net.au/advisories/ Thanks again Scott. I think that my ISP is a lot of the problem, but then is it the IPSTAR satellite people as well or

Re: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2013-12-31 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 01/01/14 14:56, Charlie wrote: > On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 14:03:45 +1100 Scott Ferguson sent: > >> On 01/01/14 13:07, Charlie wrote: >>> On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 12:31:00 +1100 Scott Ferguson sent: >>> > To see what else (TCP) is using the network:- $ netstat -t >>> >>> Active Internet connec

Re: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2013-12-31 Thread Charlie
On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 14:03:45 +1100 Scott Ferguson sent: > On 01/01/14 13:07, Charlie wrote: > > On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 12:31:00 +1100 Scott Ferguson sent: > > > > Thanks again for the follow up Scott. > >> Expect very low latency with a satellite connection. > > Sorry, I meant "high" latency (lo

Re: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2013-12-31 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 01/01/14 13:07, Charlie wrote: > On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 12:31:00 +1100 Scott Ferguson sent: > > > > Thanks for your time Scott > >> Expect very low latency with a satellite connection. Sorry, I meant "high" latency (long wait for a response). > > Is 976ms low or is that high? Low (quick).

Re: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2013-12-31 Thread Charlie
On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 12:31:00 +1100 Scott Ferguson sent: Thanks for your time Scott > Expect very low latency with a satellite connection. Is 976ms low or is that high? Is the lower number like 662ms high? > > > > Now the latest is that they want me to run Jessie in the same mode > > as safe

Re: To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2013-12-31 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 01/01/14 11:56, Charlie wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > Running Jessie: 3.11-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.11.10-1 (2013-12-04) > x86_64 GNU/Linux > > Toshiba c500/A00L w8 laptop > > I have been having no end of problems with my satellite connection over > some months and each new support person

To do the same as Windows safe mode...........

2013-12-31 Thread Charlie
Hello everyone, Running Jessie: 3.11-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.11.10-1 (2013-12-04) x86_64 GNU/Linux Toshiba c500/A00L w8 laptop I have been having no end of problems with my satellite connection over some months and each new support person wants me to run something different, get the modem re